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Re: IIFT GD PI Experiences[2008-2010] - 28-01-2008, 11:34 PM

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HI do we need to carry any proof of work-ex i mean are they asking for any doc's before going to gd-pi process or only admit card is sufficient.
No they didnt ask for any certificates/marksheets whatsoever but its better to carry them. I'm not sure whether u will be facing the same profs but its still better to be prepared for that rather than be lightning struck when they ask for ur file and u dont have one. But yeah you can always say that i didnt bring any proof of my work-ex...would be bringing it on the day of admission (that way they might end up giving u a final call ) Jokes apart...ATB dude...nothing to worry. Just chill..it will be a nice experience for sure..they are highly professional and at the same time very cordial and have a gr8 sense of humour..my group mates at bangalore would agree to that

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is the GD moderated by each person in the group?and if so,then what is the duration per participant?
Buddy..the prof read out the instructions to us:-
1). Either the moderator thing would go in a sequential manner or
2). The panel would decide who would moderate 1st and whose turn would it be next. They will simply place a bell in front of u n anoint u a moderator..nothing to worry bout.


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Re: IIFT GD PI Experiences[2008-2010] - 28-01-2008, 11:39 PM

Puys one very very important info...
the breakup/weightage this time is:-

Written exam - 50%
Group Discussion - 25%
Personal Interview - 25%

The profs at coffee board had left the instructions sheet in the board-room itself. We got a nice long look at the various criteria for selection and the weightage of all of them

HTH!!


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Skipped :- NITIE, IIM S

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Re: IIFT GD PI Experiences[2008-2010] - 29-01-2008, 09:47 AM

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Venue Kolkata IIFT..

We reached there around 9:30 and the proces started at around 9:35..
Met Gourav and a few others there.These people are gems and they really helped us..

back to the main topic.
GD-- the same topic as the prvious posts.. (Changing pattern of the Indian Middle Class)

The froup was about 10 ppl (9 guys and a gal)..GD went quite well but one guy stood out..ret all of us contributed well..The panel was prey happy with our performance..I was prety happy with mine too

PI---

3 people P1, P2, P3 (All Men in their late 40s maybe)..

P1 -- So what all calls do u have.
Me--Told (SP jain )
P1-- U dont seem to have IIM calls . Why ?
Me--Some gyaan regarding English being not up to the expectations
P1--If given a choice which one will u join .SP JAIN or IIFT
Me -- IIFT coz of the International trade thing and other gyaan.
P1 -- Do u read news papers. If yes which ones
Me-- I said about Times of India.
P1-- No pink ones eh..
Me-- I told ya I ead economic times but i havent read the todays edition
P1--Dont worry..Its not a test.(Smiles all around)..What do u know about Hang seng, Nikkei, NSE and BSE,.
Me -- Gave a good answr.
P2 who had been disinterestd till now suddenly burst up with activity.
P2 -- What do think about Indian football (I mentioned football as my hobby). DO u think all these foreigners coming in to Indian clubs good for us.
Me--I said yes and defended well.
P2-Suppose a situation arises when all 11 are foreigners.
Me--Need to regulate like the English football board is planning to do..
P2-Extend the situation to corporate world and tell whether there must be regulation in FDI..Tell wheher FDI is good at all.
Me--I said FDi is good but it mjus not be allowed in certain sector.
P2-What about pres
Me-I dont think one should allow 100 percent FDI there.Defended well here.
P2--talk us about WTO.
Me--Told up all that I had mugged up.
P2--What are the bottlenecks of Doha round
Me--Answered well here wih stats..
P2-Thanks you.P3 will u ask something.
P3-Ya..Have u heard of a book called 'Elephants dancing'. (I am from IBM.Hence the question)
Me-Corrected and said. I think It is 'Who says elephants can dance'
P3-So who wrote it and what contribution did he have in shaping IBMs culture.
me-Answered well here agian as had prepard for this
P3-Good.So have u read this book yet.
Me-No Sir
P3--Wha all other books have u read.
Me-I said the last one I raed was El deigo
P3-Ya thats fine .What other books have u read.
Me-I said I have read the lsst 2 Harry Potter ones
P1,P2,P3, Me all broke into laughter.
P1-ok thank you very much.
Me--Can I have some water.
P1-Sure.take the bottle in front of you and go
Me-thank you and exit.

All the panelists were cordial and welcoming.

Once again I would like to thank Gourav and 2 other seniors over there for the excellent work.

U ppl rock guys..Keep it Up.

Comments and ratings are wlcome.
Please rate my PI guys.
Hey Sri...Can u tell me ur Background...coz the questions askd to u were mainly concentrated on Eco.....i m scared i wud have faltered on one or two questions...
   
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Re: IIFT GD PI Experiences[2008-2010] - 29-01-2008, 09:50 AM

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Puys one very very important info...
the breakup/weightage this time is:-

Written exam - 50%
Group Discussion - 25%
Personal Interview - 25%

The profs at coffee board had left the instructions sheet in the board-room itself. We got a nice long look at the various criteria for selection and the weightage of all of them

HTH!!
buddy can you mention the criteria on which were evaluated in the GD and PI..thanks


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Re: IIFT GD PI Experiences[2008-2010] - 29-01-2008, 10:36 AM

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Hey Sri...Can u tell me ur Background...coz the questions askd to u were mainly concentrated on Eco.....i m scared i wud have faltered on one or two questions...

My father is an economist ..I told them this info at the beginning of he PI..Thats why probably they shifted towards economics..

My Background anyways is

Electrical Engg from NIT
currently employd in IBM since last 18 months ...


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Re: IIFT GD PI Experiences[2008-2010] - 29-01-2008, 11:05 AM

Venue : Coffee Board Bangalore
Time: 9:00 AM, 28th Jan'08

Reached there around 8 AM sipped coffee in a nearby garden restaurant, read through the morning newspaper sitting there.

Went into the building, the junta I must say is pretty experienced these days, few guys with suit on, just one girl , people ready with neatly prepared files and stuff, few people with IIM calls, few with just one call, few giving IIFt interview second time and few were doing just regular bakwaas to ease of the tension.

First of all the essay section is scrapped, so those who dint like to scribble much, be happy

GD topic: Changes in investment patterns of the Indian Middle Class

The discussion went quite well, I think I found people with similar opinion to me (2 of them) so the discussion went well for people like us who were trying to speak something other than stock markets. During discussion people came up with so called amazing facts,

"our markets have moved from 10000 to 20000 in just 429 sessions" (i smiled at this one, maybe even giggled a bit)

"FII push-pull, foreign investors"

"Reliance IPO, grey market price, white market, 450-460-900"

People were talking complete nonsense, few people tried to restore sense by putting good points forward like Social investments, Indian mindset, EMI's, double income family, changes in family structures, trust based investments in India, changes in banking rates, investment in health and education, all quite good.

Infact apart from a few times where it was going haywire, it was mostly ok, and I think we did okay enough as a group. I would rate my performance here quite good as i barged in at the right time and also had some of the good points on offer.


Interview: Some room, low sofa, four panelists

I think I am the first person interviewed by IIFT guys (as I was the first at this center). Some honour

Panelists: P1(finance prof) P2(marketing prof), p3,p4(industry guys)

P1: Tell me about yourself???

deshh: bakbak...

p2: Tell us more about your work
deshh: bakbak...about client, how we work on software, how are we different etc etc

p3: KM catalyst???
deshh: explained my role and how KM function works as such, motivating people is the main role.

p3:How do you motivate people?
deshh: awards, appreciation mails, leading by example, making things easy to use and club it properly with process

p3: Some more things about work?
deshh: bakbak

p2: One moment which made you feel proud about your work?
deshh: talked about team getting award and something

p2: some thing specific, which you were more a part of
deshh:told a story about client, difficult time dealing with her, gave the deliverables still, something came out

p2: something about DAIICT
deshh: hehe, jai dhirubhai

p1: Brave New world, when was it written???
deshh: around 1930's

p1: do you think something similar will happen?
deshh: if we chuck our value system, leave out things which are central to our life our culture family etc. there is a chance. Although that kind of happiness wont be satisfying.

Also if the government starts distributing Drugs/Dope for free and our marital structure breaks down there is surely a brave new world around

hahahahaha (everyone laughs...i too joined the party


p2: Do you read news papers?
deshh: yep

p2: dollar rupee thing?
deshh: told something which sounded convincing, after that quoted chidambram, bhagwati etc, davos, something that someone sneezes we wont catch cold, we should take pride in our economy, look towards a economy which is so strong that its not affected by such things, took nationalistic tones, bilkul jai hind mode

p1:dollar rupee, it companies, your company??
deshh: euro/pound billing deals, hedging, increasing gross margins through better utilization of resources.

p2: (all of a sudden as I was still discussing the IT company thing) comment allez vous??
deshh: j'ampple Abhishek


For those who don't know french they asked how is it going? and I answered My name is Abhishek


Everyone started laughing and then I too joined the party. Hereafter the interview turned into quite a nice and funny experience.



p2: why did you learn french?
deshh: (straight form the heart) because the teacher was good (laughing cont...)

p4: Do you think Animal Farm is still relevant in the post soviet era?
deshh: told something about power corrupts those in power. Gave example of Suharto, also told a story about people getting oppressed in China.

p4: All of sudden, about the dollar things, we didn't discuss the imports, we should happy about oil getting cheaper for us?
deshh:something about yes it will have short term effects, Indian energy sector is diversifying it self, lots of stuff on power sector I start speaking

p4: Oh yeah, I can see that your father works in NTPC

deshh: yep yep, I think we can have lots of discussions on power sector

p3: Ok, so whats your fav dish????

deshh: (hehe, i wrote cooking as an interest) Bengali Khichdi sir!!!

p1 and p3: Why because you cook it well?

deshh: Yep I cook it but there is another story behind it. As kids we use to to these Durga Puja pendals in our township and serve khichdi with that khajoor ka chutney (mouth watering for me and two others in panel). There i discovered my fondness for khichdi.

Kids were then rewarded with extra ghee for there efforts and you can clearly see where all the extra ghee has gone (looking at me)

all:: hahaha

p2: Thanks Abhishek

deshh: Thanks Mam, sir etc.
Have a a great day!!!

Missed out maybe a few things but this covers most of it.

One thing I should say the, the profs and industry guys involved were great people.

Profs who did the GD and PI were great and surely if they are so cool it will be an awesome time at IIFT if get through.

Hats off to IIFT and the way they handled there admission process. Even if don't get in I surely enjoyed the process yesterday. They gave the right information about everything and made us feel extremely comfortable with everything.


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Re: IIFT GD PI Experiences[2008-2010] - 29-01-2008, 11:49 AM

My First GD/PI Exp in Pguy...
This place has given me so much..

It's time to give something back...

Centre : IIFT Kolkata

Gd : Changing Investment Patterns of Indian Middle Class..

Decent, Civilzed Gd ... Nearly everyone spoke..
I made some decent points but could have done much better..

PI :

3 Panel Members

Q : Tell us something abt urself
A : Gyan

Q : Ur working as a programmer analyst , not happy with work ?
A : More gyan

Q : Ur a cricket fanatic.. Is ranjib biswal doing a good job for east zone?
A : Gyan on state of cricket in east zone..
Upcoming players from orissa and bengal...
Also how he is a national selector first and has to select the best possible team.

Q : Ur a relative of debashis mohanty?
A : No sir

Q : Debashis Mohanty was given a raw deal by the selectors , wht r ur views ??
A : More gyan , he needs helpful conditions to swing the ball..
Struggled on subcontinent pitches , thats y he was shown the door..

Q : Exports of India ??
A : Cotton , handicraft , software..

Q : Steel Industry problems in Orissa , what are the real problems , how to tackle ??
A: More Gyan...

Don't remember anything else right now..
Interview was around 8-10 mins for everyone...
Scared of such a small interview.
But panel was really good ..

Fingers crossed , hope the beginning is good..

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Re: IIFT GD PI Experiences[2008-2010] - 29-01-2008, 12:40 PM

Guess I am the 1st one to post experience today (29th Jan). Being 1st in the panel

IIFT Campus, Kolkata, timing 9.30 A.M. Reached the venue at 9.25. Sat in the hall with other participants with seniors answering various queries from bachchas.. Didn't have to wait for long, was asked to move to the GD room within 10 minutes. Extremely well organized, they had stickers with roll numbers to let us know our exact seat. There were 12 people seated in a big U shape (13 names, but 1 didn't turn up).

GD Topic - Appreciation in Rupee Value, impacts on Indian Economy. As already noted, each one had 2 minutes initially to air his/her own views. Then the open house would start.

I was seating at one end of table, and the round robin thing started from there. Liked it, of course (10-12 points hi to hain bhai, jitna late utna repitition issue ). Had noted down some 7-8 points by then. Mentioned those in pretty good order. Things like -

a. Why Rupee is appreciating (More capital Inflow from outside),
What can be the future (With Fed Rate cut, more capital flow in Indian Markets leading to more appreciation),
b. Advantages (Sign of strong economy, example of loan being approved to Gujarat Govt. in Indian currency, Strong markets - comparison with China which hasn't been able to float it's currency etc),
c. Disadvantages (IT, Export, Job cuts etc)

Was about to mention the last point regarding what IT companies are doing to stem the rot, but was cut short..

Others mentioned some new points too - US economy in decline (Sub Prime Crisis), Textile export being affected most, petroleum sector gaining etc..

Open GD started and I was the 1st one to moderate. Easy at that point of time, as I just mentioned the structure I want to see in the discussion - Advantages, Disadvantages and finally the solutions possible. Kept totally silent for the rest of my moderation time (It was told that moderators should not take part in the discussion other than controlling the group, I followed it and joined the GD only when my moderation time was over). Since the group was extremely well-behaved, as moderator I need not interfare.

After the moderation time, I pitched in quite a few times at regular intervals. Mentioned things like -

a. how Indian IT is trying to cope with it,
b. We need to move up the value chain in IT sector (Value addition),
Need to strengthen our work force so that cost factor comes down (Demand-Supply scenario, more supply will mean less cost),
c. Need to look at our GDP sector-wise balance. Services contribute 60% with some 25% work-force. If we can improve the other sectors, that will lead to more efficiency and less cost in things like employee salary in IT,
d. What RBI can do - Printing more notes can help bring down the Rupee value, but there is the issue of higher inflation.
e. mentioned that GDP growth outlook is extremely positive (acc to Chidambaram) and that is due to the fact that per capita savings are on a rise. India can maintain growth rate with domestic based consumptions too. We need to balance the need of Trade and Domestic consumption.

Plenty of other points were discussed. Overall a very good discussion and very good moderation. people were extremely well-behaved and it never became a fish-market. Some refreshing ideas from moderators, like dividing the group in 2/3 parts. Each sub-group to discuss one perspective. Then the last guy to moderate was simply awesome. He gave everyone 15-20 seconds to summarise the discussion. Overall, it was really good experience. Nice group and very good arrangement.

Came out and had some coffee. Was called for interview within 15 minutes. Another nice round of discussion (The panel was different from GD panel)-

P1 - Lady with Specs,
P2 - Bald guy with specs, came in late actually
P3 - Guy with Intellectual looks
M - Moi

P3 - So Anirban, tell us something about yourself.
M - Blah Blah.. Mentioned my work responsibilities, my family values, My other activities etc..

P3 - you are working in such a big organization, why do you want to do an MBA?
M - Standard Why MBA. But part of it was on the spot. Used my knowledge about what is lacking in Indian IT and how proper managerial education will help me fit into my job better.

P3 - So, you know anything about Indian Trade?
M - Some basics sir

P3 - What are our significant export products?
M - Not exactly sure sir (ya ya, I shd have prepared this). Textile and IT services will rank very high though

P3 - Imports?
M - Not sure again sir. But Crude Oil will rank very high. We import 76% of our Crude Oil requirements.

P3 - Why do you think India is not improving in TT (TT is my hobby)?
M - Sir, various reasons are there. Lack of infrastructure, Lack of foreign exposure, but the most important thing for me is that we need to groom players from early age. Looking at China, they do it extensively and also they have superb infrastructure. By the time our players start getting that, they are significantly behind the Chinese for example.

P3 - Do you still get time to play TT?
M - Yes sir, in my office .

P3 - ok ok, you have the facility in office.

Over to P1.

P1 - Do you know about WTO?
M - Yes mam, I know the basics. Explained whatever I knew. Trade focus, trying to decrease tariff & non-tariff barriers. Also, settlement of trade disputes , Trying to form a policy for global trade - example of bargaining between developing countries and developed ones regarding Farm Subsidy ...

P1 - Do you know the current rate of inflation?
M - Rough idea - 3.82%

P1 - Has it increased or decreased?
M - Slight Increase from previous week mam.

P1 - Implications ?
M - Less value of money. Purchasing power comes down.

P1 - Any other implications?
M - Yes, Rupee Value Appreciation can be prevented. As inflation means more supply of Rupee, demand for rupee will decrease. In fact RBI can print more notes to control rupee appreciation, but the issue of inflation is the problem then.

P2 (Who had come in late) - So Anirban, which campus will you choose?
M - Both are good sir, but provided a choice I would choose Delhi.

P2 - Why?
M - Sir, Student perception and Industry perception are two important factors. Student perception of IIFT Delhi is better (Although Kolkata is also pretty good), because of its history. I am fascinated by that campus. Also, it's in an institutional area. That will help in interacting with the best brains in the country.

P2 - (Looking at my form) When did you write so much last time?
M - . Sir, I write things..

P2 - Write or type?
M - Type sir..

P2 - It shows in your hand-writing.
M - I know sir, it's one of my biggest weaknesses..

P2 - ok, where did your father work?
M - Reserve Bank Of india Sir.

P2 - in kolkata?
M - Yes sir.

P2 - Ok, you can leave..

M - Thanks sir.. (forgot thanks mam).

So, that was it. i reiterate - It was extremely well organized. Kudos to IIFT.

Unofficial info - Students expect results to be out by end of Feb..

All sorts of comments solicited ..


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Re: IIFT GD PI Experiences[2008-2010]
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Re: IIFT GD PI Experiences[2008-2010] - 29-01-2008, 01:35 PM

I think you have performed really well...
Putting the structure in GD moderation was commendable....
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