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Hi PGites
My journey for cracking the MBA entrance scenario began six months back, when I started preparing for CAT ... I would regularly visit this site and compare my Sim-CAT scores with others to follow my progress ... But things did'nt go off too well for me on D-day ... My splits were -
Quant - 77 percentile
DI - 92 percentile
Verbal - 99 percentile
Could'nt make it through any of the IIMs, so decided to try my luck at GMAT ... Decided to take a month to prepare for it and give it my best shot ...
Just gave GMAT yesterday ... And man! Am I relieved it's all over! ... The worst part about preparing for GMAT was that, unlike CAT, I would know what my score is within minutes of giving the test ... And the result of my hard work will either pay off or go down the drain ... And in the end, it did pay off! ... I got a 760, and the world has just turned a shade of rosy pink! ...
I wanted to share my experience with PG ... Hopefully it might benefit a few others who are looking to break into the 700s ...
What I studied
The Official Guide -
Absolutely essential ... Especially for Verbal ... I did only the last 100 questions or so for Quant ... But solve each and every question in Verbal ... And don't simply solve the questions ... Understand why or why not ...
Kaplan CD -
Tests are OK, though low scoring ... Lessons are good for review ... Good to practise Quant from here, as the questions are above the OG level ... If you're aiming for above 700, get very comfortable with toughies ... RC's are very bad! ... The lengthy psycho-abstract mumbo-jumbo they give is nowhere near the standard of the actual GMAT ... They'll throw you off ...
Princeton -
Verbal is good ... especially SC ... The rules are very clearly laid out ... Too few problems to practice in their Bins, though ... Quant isn't that good ... AWA explanation was also the best among all the material I referred to ...
ARCO -
Did'nt observe anything extraordinary here ... Just solved all the questions for practice ...
What I did not study
Barrons -
Kindly abstain ... Words are not enough to describe the Barrons experience ...
The tests I took
While giving tests, it's very important that you give the whole thing in one sitting, under a controlled environment ... The sooner you start giving essays with your tests, the better it is ... Get used to the four hour environment ... And spend a respectable amount of time analysing your results ... Not just the ones you got wrong, but also the ones you got right ... Find out if you got them right for the right reasons ...
PowerPrep -
The accepted method to start your GMAT prep is with a PP test ... People told me that the score you get here is what you will ultimately end up with ... I got 730 in the first one and 750 in the second one ... Both Quant and Verbal were definitely much more simpler here than most of the questions I encountered in the actual GMAT ... But be sure to finish the two tests before you start your OG, as all questions are repeated ...
Kaplan -
Like I mentioned, scores are low here ... I got 640, 650 and 630 ... My accuracy was about 50% in both RC and CR ... Just could'nt identify with most of the solutions they gave ... Refrain from taking them a week before GMAT if low scores bring you down easily ... Very good analysis for results, though ...
Princeton -
I was'nt very impressed with the tests they gave on the CD ... Well, I did not have a net connection on the computer where I gave my tests, so I could not check my results for the two Princeton CATs I took ... So I can't comment on their analysis ...
How I studied
Started off with a PP ... Then sat down to finish all the Non OG material ... Princeton, Arco, Kaplan CD ... Took the other PP ... Finally sat down with OG during the last week and solved each and every problem systematically ...
Here are some strategies I picked up during the course of my prep ...
Quant
Unlike in CAT, in GMAT it is not a good idea to try out the process of elimination in Quant ... If you've got your basics right, you've got more than enough time to actually solve each and every question ... Use your scratch pad generously ... Don't be shy to write down the process ... It pays to be sure ... And practice as many short cuts as you can for the known problem types that you might encounter ...
For example,
A does some work in x days
B does the same work in y days
Time taken for both to do the work is
x*y/(x+y) days
A serious CAT Quant Prep should be more than sufficient to see you through any problem in GMAT Quant ... Just avoid silly mistakes, and double check DS questions ...
Reading Comprehension
You will get 4 passages of an average length of about 40 words each ... Get comfortable with topics with technical jargon, social issues, gender inequality ... No arbid topics here ... And time spent in reading the passages thoroughly is time well invested ... And COMPREHEND what you're reading ... Develop a burning interest in what you're reading ... As you keep reading, it helps if you start asking yourself what might come next ... Break the passage down to a skeletal structure, and you're done ... Initial practice may require you to use a scratch pad to do this, but with enough practice you'll be able to do it mentally ... Just get the main flow down, details can be referred to later ...
Once you do this for a passage, the content will be so imprinted in your mind that you'll be ready to answer the questions without the need to refer back to the passage ...
Critical Reasoning
Process of Elimination is the backbone of CR and SC type questions ... But, for CR, refrain from looking at the options immediately after reading the argument ... First frame a general idea of what the question wants you to find out ... Nothing beats the thrill of finding out your answer among the options listed ... If not, you'll atleast hit upon the right idea ... And that should give you reasonable confidence to mark the option as the right answer ...
Sentence Correction
Before starting my Prep for SC, I picked up an old grammer book of mine and reviewed certain key concepts ... Knowing basic sentence structure is essential to cracking SC ... Find out about clauses, both independent and subordinate, subjects, verbs and other important components of a sentence ... Be comfortable with all forms of tenses ... And then of course there are the standard rules like misplaced modifiers, parallel structure, subject-verb agreement ... Any GMAT prep book should get you familiar with this stuff ...
Approach towards a problem is very similar to the CR approach ... Before jumping to the options, ask yourself what is wrong with the statement itself ... If you're able to find atleast one mistake, immediately eliminate all options containing that mistake (of course, you have to be sure that it IS infact a mistake!) ... Once you get your options down to two, it should be easy enough ...
Last few days
I started with the Official Guide only one week before the GMAT ... Wanted to save the best for last ... That way, the problems I solved and the errors I made would be fresh in my memory ... Finished the quant first and focussed on verbal over the last couple of days ... Repeated a PP the day before just to get comfortable with the testing process ... Also kept an error log of the questions I got wrong in SC ... Solved all these questions again on the last day ...
D-day
Watched TV the whole day till the test in the afternoon ... Did not touch any book or study material ... Just wanted to relax myself ... Got to the centre well in time and finished the minor formalities ... They make you sign loads of confidentiality agreement docs ... The rules are pretty strict out there, so come prepared ... Can you believe they made me take out my sweatshirt coz it had a hood! ... Apparently anything with a cap is not allowed ... Make sure you shave, coz they take a mugshot of yours too ...
Without warning, I was suddenly called from the waiting room outside and thrust into a small cubicle with a computer ... Was'nt quite ready for it so early, so had to compose myself ... Lucky thing it begins with the essay section ... Really helps to calm your nerves ... That's why it's much better to practice atleast 10-12 essays before the D-day ... Since this is the first section you'll be facing, it helps if you've got atleast certain things down pat, like structure and introduction lines.
Quant was of average difficulty ... Questions 5-20 were more difficult than the rest, so schedule your time properly ... I divided up the 75 mins into 3 parts of 25 mins each, and aimed to solve atleast 12 questions in each section (for verbal this was 14) ... Word problems are a favourite with ETS, so get ready to convert them all quickly into equations ... Checked and rechecked all answers, and so managed to finish it just in time ...
Verbal started with a shocker of an SC ... Stared at the question for sometime before things started becoming clearer ... Third question was a relatively simple passage ... Got four passages totally, of length 35, 40, 40 and 60 ... Questions in all were manageable ... CR started pretty late for me, at the 7th or 8th question ... Did get a couple of boldfaces in the end ...
Overall was expecting 750, so was pleasantly surprised to see 760 ... Breakup was 51 (99 perc) in Quant and 41 (93 perc) in Verbal ... Took some time for the whole thing to sink in ... After a long walk for half an hour, during which I made loads of calls to my family and friends, I finally settled down ... The suspense was finally over ...
But the journey has just begun ... I have just a couple of years work-ex under my belt currently, so I'll be applying for 2006, by when I'll have three ... Gives me plenty of time to start my research on B-schools and work on my applications ... Since I'm very new to the US B-School applying process, I would appreciate if someone can start me off in a broad direction ... What range of B-Schools can I aim for with this kind of a score? ... And since Financial Aid is also a huge consideration for me, can anyone confirm which schools might be willing to take me in with a full/partial fee waiver? ...
I hope knowing about my experience was useful to atleast a few of you ... I'll gladly answer any specific queries you might have about preparing for GMAT ...
Best of luck!!
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30-01-2005, 10:41 AM
hi Baba Yaga
first of all congrads on ur score..
thanx, that was a very informative post indeed.
lot of good inputs. i am planning on giving gmat too.. but am still in final year engg, so i think ill wait for at least a yr .
just collecting info and stuff ..
if some one can can post anything regarding the finance aspects .. like how easy/ hard is it to get loans or fee waivers in top 30 schools, that d be great ..
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30-01-2005, 12:53 PM
amazing post
i repect people who give a detailed explanation
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AMAZING POST!!!! Gotta be one of the best i've read on GMAT! 
Congrats on the gr8 score m8. I am sure your post will help a lot of dudes n dudettes here. 
Keep up the good work! 
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01-02-2005, 02:01 PM
Hi baba Yoga..
congrats on ur fundu perf..and ur post was simply coool...will help lot many
Everything is possible.the Impossible just takes a little longer!
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02-02-2005, 08:28 PM
hey bro congrats forst of all even i am planning to give gmat now i know u will be busy applying but ill highly appreaciate if u can give me your email id need sum specific answers and you are my best bet aditya.r.d@gmail.com pls revert
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02-02-2005, 10:36 PM
Conratulations Baba Yaga !!!
Your post has been of great help and describes details to leave no room for doubts.
Would love to hear where you get in ?? Please keep PGs posted on your developments preferably on this thread.
As of now the help i can extend comes to you in the form of following link where you need to enter your GMAT score and GPA(i have no idea of calculating it??) which is your academic performance and the page lets you know if your score is competitive enough for the B-School you wish to apply to.
http://www.studentdoc.com/gmat-scores.html
Hope you get a good scholarship.
Till next time.
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As of now the help i can extend comes to you in the form of following link where you need to enter your GMAT score and GPA(i have no idea of calculating it??) which is your academic performance and the page lets you know if your score is competitive enough for the B-School you wish to apply to.
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Hi Homer,
Thnx for the link , but i wouldnt advise you or anyone else to decide upon their apping on the basis of whats presented by the site. BSchool admissions are highly subjective and qualitative in nature and ur GMAT score n CGPA form only a part of your application.
Dont such sites (mis)guide you!
Best of luck! :smile:
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Hi Homer,
Thnx for the link , but i wouldnt advise you or anyone else to decide upon their apping on the basis of whats presented by the site. BSchool admissions are highly subjective and qualitative in nature and ur GMAT score n CGPA form only a part of your application.
Dont such sites (mis)guide you!
Best of luck! :smile:
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Hi Hobbes,
First things first .... thanks for the advice, will keep that in mind but don't try and read too much into a post and
Secondly... the site itself claims the following.
"A lot of factors are left out entirely, so these results do not guarantee acceptance or rejection in any MBA program. However, they can be used to build a "portfolio" of MBA programs to which to apply. The database used is not complete - many excellent MBA programs (including all online MBA programs) have bee left out."
Finally, remember that all the data presented is only a means to an end which one seeks.
Till next time.
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03-02-2005, 12:28 PM
Homer, thanks for the link ... But what Hobbes says is very true ... B-Schools' decisions are very, very subjective, especially the ones at the top ... The GMAT score is more of a hygiene factor - You get above 720, and your application is favourably looked upon ... It basically proves that you're equipped to handle the academic rigours of a top B-School ... Below the 700's, you have to be really exceptional in the rest of your application to get into an elite school ... But, 760 will definitely not work against me! ...
And as for where to apply ... I've spoken to lots of people over the last week, and all of them have almost the same thing to say to me ... Don't compromise - Go for the kill! ... Apply to atleast 4 schools in the top 10 and about 4-5 in the 10-25 range ... This is a huge investment, not just in terms of money, but in that I'll get only one chance at a B-School ... It does'nt matter if the top 10 Universities don't give you financial aid ... The payback is huge, both monetary and brand-recognition ...
So I've made a decision ... I'm in no hurry now ... Will apply for Fall 2007, and by then I should have 4 years of Work-ex ... I'll be working for 2 more years and will try to rise to a position of responsibility in my organisation ... Will try to do all that I can to add more spice to my application ... Meanwhile, my research into US B-Schools will continue ... If I have patience, I'm sure all my effort wil bear fruit ...
And I'll definitely continue this thread if people are interested ... Would be nice to share my whole Apping experience ...
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