[deep_agrawal]

We are all aware of the serial blasts which have rocked Ahmedabad and Bangalore over the last couple of days.

Every time a blast occurs, we start analyzing, blaming, counter-blaming each and every body even remotely connected to it. Politicians, Security agencies, police, religions; these are among the first ones to bear the brunt. Worse still, I have even seen some people make jokes about such situations and incidents.

But do we all really think that they are to be blamed entirely for these blasts and such savagery? Is it really possible for the security agencies to track the movement of over 1 billion citizens of our country? Do we, as responsible Indians, don't have any duties to perform here? What do we do about such situations? Is it right to just kick-up some mud in the aftermath of the blasts and then get back to our lives again?

These are some of the questions which have been troubling me since long. But these blasts have provided me with the trigger to start this thread. I would request everyone to steer clear of carrying out personal attacks against any religion, community, person, etc. Try to be as logical as possible in your arguments. Rationality doesn't hurt, does it?

[*DarK_AngeL*]

There is another thread on this issue. We can merge these threads.
http://www.pagalguy.com/forum/touchi...bangalore.html (Blasts in Bangalore)


One should be alert when in a crowded place. Blaming the law and government is not the answer. I see a lot of advertisements in newspapers educating people regarding the precautions against such cases. Many people go easy regarding the responsibilities they have to perform like renting a rooms to anyone without their full information,etc. Believe me when I say this (Its very easy to blame law and order), the police is there to do it's part. When they get hoax calls, they perform their basic exercises in order to be sure. These clowns (the ones who make hoax calls) are severely dealt with. But there are times when they can falter (the price to pay at such instances is very high). An informed citizen is the best answer to such problems. We can help by educating ourselves and the people around us.

[twiceblessedman]

Hi,

My take on this is very simple. A lot of illegal immigrants are roaming around in this country and no guesses as to their countries of origin. The govt and the law should get tough on illegal immigrants and send them home. Half of the problem would be solved this way. For the other half, the intelligence and security agencies should infiltrate terror outfits and gather intelligence about attacks. We all know very well that such attacks cannot happen without the support of a few estranged locals. So, it is important that we bring everybody to the mainstream society and not allow such alienation to take place. Unfortunately, events in the last few years have achieved the opposite. Jobs, inclusive economic growth is the answer.

[*DarK_AngeL*]

Originally Posted by twiceblessedman

Hi,

A lot of illegal immigrants are roaming around in this country and no guesses as to their countries of origin. The govt and the law should get tough on illegal immigrants and send them home. Half of the problem would be solved this way.

The law is already pretty tough for such illegal immigrants. If the law keepers are provided with the information, they will deal with such cases. This is another part where a responsible citizen comes into play.

[man_on_mission]

My first reaction...wat d hell is goin on...human lives have no value??? really really it deeply hurts me...wat was the mistake of the ppl who lost der lives...only tat dey wer born in this country...

Now analysing the situation....y d balst wer of so low intensities...y dint dey cause much more loss to human life...do u bliv tat terrorist attack wud cause such a low damage to lives... y dey wer just after Govt won vote of confidence...y dey happend jus 8-9 months away from general election...for me its jus done to gain political grounds...dis is sheer politics nothing else...nd common man has to pay heavy price of dirty politics....

But its duty of citizens to put behind des blats...b brave and take our country forward...wen our country is in hand of corrupt poiliticians..it bcomes our duty to take it 2 next level....

I must tell des balsts has really shook me ....instead of soothing the ppl of our country political parties r playin dirty mud slinging game and balming each other...sad sad day....

[yudhajeet]

Its a pretty dismal state of affairs throughout the country in angling security methods. Worse is the dramatizing of these calamities by the media.

Statistically, stealth bombings comprise around 90% of terrorist attacks on the people. Why bombs? Because its something which can be well hidden, which is spontaneous to cause panic, easy to camouflage and easier to build.

In a particular city, the following are the broad level staging areas:(all of them being "population intensive")

1. Offices/Hospitals/Malls. (Close Quarters)

2. Streets/Markets/Parks. (Open Spaces).

Resolution points for close quarters could be to install screeners in offices/banks/malls, etc for the baggage which people bring in. Ever wondered if a particular baggage deposited to the mall security counter to comprise of a home made bomb??!! Every article which is brought into an institution should pass through a screener, whether its lunch food or anything else. Personally in my office, even if I walk into my cubicle in the 6th floor without wearing my I-card, not once does the security personnel come into the picture. It's potent danger is very disturbing.
Ever wondered what if a child entering his school's gates is unaware of the package placed in his bag on the transit bus?


However, I cannot think of any mitigations for the open space issues, other than the solutions given above by others which are long term in nature, such as jobs, inclusion into society, public awareness, etc.
Puys pour in your suggestions.

[polpot]

Originally Posted by man_on_mission

My first reaction...wat d hell is goin on...human lives have no value??? really really it deeply hurts me...wat was the mistake of the ppl who lost der lives...only tat dey wer born in this country...

Now analysing the situation....y d balst wer of so low intensities...y dint dey cause much more loss to human life...do u bliv tat terrorist attack wud cause such a low damage to lives... y dey wer just after Govt won vote of confidence...y dey happend jus 8-9 months away from general election...for me its jus done to gain political grounds...dis is sheer politics nothing else...nd common man has to pay heavy price of dirty politics....

But its duty of citizens to put behind des blats...b brave and take our country forward...wen our country is in hand of corrupt poiliticians..it bcomes our duty to take it 2 next level....

I must tell des balsts has really shook me ....instead of soothing the ppl of our country political parties r playin dirty mud slinging game and balming each other...sad sad day....

No disrespect, mate. But you went from justified remorse to full fledged blame game without any proof whatsoever. Maybe being calm in such situations would help more.

Also, human lives have no value. Its a fact of life. If not people by bomb blasts, then some more by natural calamities, even more by famines, disease, war blah blah. Obviously Im not attempting to mock the situation and i deeply sympathise with the people who bore the brunt. But bomb blasts and people dying are of no shock value to me any more. It may be a sad state of affair but thats how it is.

[getintoiimb]

Sad to see more than a doezen of blasts put together in bglore and ahmedabad
the saddest thing is that the innocent people are being targetted as usual..the cops arent able to find the exact motive behind the blasts..i still wonder if we claim to have tight security measures how do these terrorists get into the city to plant bombs??especially in forum(bglore) when there it is crowded throught the day :huh:..bglore has become a prime target mainly becase i feel of 2 reasons..
1.it is the silicon valley of india and the the city is so cramped that a blast might end up in killing a lot of ppl :huh:
2.The political situation in karnataka was in shambles a few weeks back and the terrorists took advantage of it to get into the city..
whatever it is may the soul's of those innocent ppl who died RIP !!

[razabpn]

In my opinion blame-game in the aftermath is a part and parcel of this land. Be it Security depts, Govt agencies, Political parties. Each party wants its share of flesh out of these incidents, which is morally wrong but thats how it is. I seriously don't know how can we overcome this mentality may be some moral lecture sessions.

Secondly our security agencies are not adequately trained to deal with these types of situations and especially in matters of evidence-management. I was amazed some news reporter actually taking their team to the spot (Even close to 1mts) and giving footage. Basic rule of any investigation is to protect the evidence which our authorities surely miss. Then there is one issue of security agencies not adequately armed, case being they carry baynot rifle and whereas miscreants carry latest AK56s! I think its time we imparted specific trainings and invested in security infrastructure.

Thirdly, there is this issue of responsibility of a citizen. How many of us really are good citizens in true spirits is a question everyone should ask themselves. Every time there is a queue somewhere, be it hospital, be it Cinema halls, be it reservation counters, be it traffic check posts you name it; there would be some nephew of lalus, mayawatis, son of IPSs or IASs who will jump the queue. In these parts of India where i stay (UP), its a fad, or ticket to show off power to have yellow/red lights on their vehicles and this just to evade any checks and stops. My point is most people feel bad about these blasts, but once some measures are taken they will openly flout by account of their position and power! So let us have some stringent check points at stations, malls, hospitals, traffic junctions and let us participate in it. This is in our own interest.

I think other points are well covered above by others.

[sumitrocks]

It seems terrorists are hell-bent upon using the 'religion' card to spread angst and distrust against certain religions, in the country. It certainly is disturbing to see/hear/read about such dastardly acts of violence every other day.

Even more disturbing is the way we soon put the past behind us, and move on with life. We rave and rant for a few days, and then let life run its usual course. Security arrangements stay in place for a few days, and then life's back to 'normalcy' till the next such incident.

No, I wouldn't blame the security agencies for this. I guess to govern a huge population of over a billion, one needs really astute use of technology. Security cameras, CCTVs, X-ray scanners, and better infrastructure is really vital. A handful of cops are no match for trained bombers.

Not just that, we, as citizens need to be more mature, and not reach silly conclusions which blame a particular section of society for these events. The ultimate goal of a terrorist is not to kill people, but to scare them and keep them in a perpetual state of fear. If people refuse to be scared, there really isn't much a terrorist can do. Of course, this sounds really really idealistic, but then, it's a fact IMHO.