Frustrated and I need some inspiration/advice

MBA CAT 2024
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Hi,

I am CA by profession..........working in mfg industry since last 4 months and i didnt like this job atall..........

I have interest for Taxation and on other hand i am interested in MBA (only IIM)too and heared abt CFA exams too.

CAt,10 will be my first attempt and dilemma to prepare for CAT or not,i have started studies just now.So i am not confident that will get into IIM as no preparation yet.

So i am confused,knowing the high uncertainty of getting into IIM (if i clear in CAT,11 i will be 26 yrs by then) to study for the CAT or not.Or,just leave this and concentrate getting job in taxation area or go for CFA since it is good degree.

By nature i like creativity or something new in my work

Please help me

Thanks



hello dear

ca by profession...age 24....cleared one of the toughest exams and still u doubt urself.
interested in taxation and mba both....
u say interested in mba and then say i m in a dilemma whether or not to sit for cat.

u r not satisfied by ur current job...leave it....age is on ur side...u have so much of energy...
well here is what i have to suggest....
change the job which is making u mad...go for the taxation field..its ur interest afterall
sit for cat'11...dont do it now...u r already feeling low...work for sumtym...
meet people...enjoy life....prepare building blocks for cat'11 step by step....
dont give cat this year...not even to get a feel of it....be a spectator for just this once
but keep on brushing up...gear up for cat'11..i means watever few hours u can spare..
just keep in touch with the latest.....
enjoy ur next job.....
and cumon fellow puy....26 is young very young...and two three years for career building is nothing..
just relax..dont do too much of thinking....enjoy the age..the events..but kep the fire burning..

as of cfa..i thnk u have already covered most of it in ca itself...
dont do it coz its a "good course"
take some time out and read a few pages of cfa course books..
or look for it the great pg thread for cfa...
see if it interests u...if it does then "u always have tym to do wat u like"
as of now.....give a damn to the job which is taking a toll on you...
look for sumthing else....u will definitely find it...a coule of months of drifting wont make a
difference to your career....***conditions apply***
if thr r other problems or constraints then judge urself....
solve the other problems first....
dont let anything cum between u and cat'11
enjoy dear

cheers..weather is gud go have some tea and smoke(optional)

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in continuation with my query(http://www.pagalguy.com/forum/intern...9.html#1871539) and baccardisprite's reply to it, it would like to ask another question..I applied for the Chinese Scholarship Council govt scholarship and got a 1 year full scholarship to study chinese at tsinghua(the top university in China). Along with that,I could only manage to get admission into the masters in international business program of Delhi School of Economics in DU. Now I am facing a big dilemma as to what to do..

I dont know why but I can't control the sinophile in me. I am just damn attracted towards china and seriously believe that my long term future is related to it.I am a bit too curious to explore that country in a greater detail and the best thing to start with is to learn mandarin, which I am already doing.. I dont know how this proclivity towards china going to shape my future. But I dont have any answer to the question of my family as to "what is the benefit of going to an alien country for 1 year and learning their language and then coming back home"......

On the other hand, my family is pressurising me not to leave DSE as it will secure my future and would help me land a good job,after which I could do whatever I want to do in life,go to china,taiwan,north korea or any other f****** place...they are also right in saying that thye knowledge of chinese would be an excellent complement to my degree in international business..so i should wait for two years,complete my masters and then apply for a scholarship again...

Again I am so confused..I believe that real knowledge comes outside the classroom,when you live with differrent people and cultures and learn from then,the opportunity for which this scholarship provides me..but then my family's point of view is also not wrong..should I invest my 2 years in MIB and then go to china or should I listen to my heart and go out for a risky adventure to learn the real meaning of life???I AM DAMN CONFUSED

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On the other hand, my family is pressurising me not to leave DSE as it will secure my future and would help me land a good job,after which I could do whatever I want to do in life,go to china,taiwan,north korea or any other snipped place...


You're confused, you want help, you will get help. No need to use profanities, even if they are starred. Respect the public forum and keep it clean.
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avinav2712 Says
you're confused, you want help, you will get help. No need to use profanities, even if they are starred. Respect the public forum and keep it clean.


ooopppsss....sorrrryyyyy!!!!!!!!
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not able to score more than 92-94 %le in cat-10 mocks ?

overall range is 85 to 94 most of the times also not clearing all the cut offs what should I do?
plz. advice me....

really want to go in IIM-A

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not able to score more than 92-94 %le in cat-10 mocks ?

overall range is 85 to 94 most of the times also not clearing all the cut offs what should I do?
plz. advice me....

really want to go in IIM-A

Believe in Yourself !!

Read the below post:

http://www.pagalguy.com/forum/cat-and-related-discussion/15542-iim-2006-08-batch-crackers-6.html#post497489
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not able to score more than 92-94 %le in cat-10 mocks ?

overall range is 85 to 94 most of the times also not clearing all the cut offs what should I do?
plz. advice me....

really want to go in IIM-A


If you are taking mocks like AIMCATS then anything in the range of 70%tile is very good. 92-94%tile is just too good. No I am not trying to make you happy but its a fact that student who get 70-80%tile in mocks like aimcats they can hope for more than 90%tile in actual cat.
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@ Seniors and Fellow Puys...

Need your reply asap.

I got Final Admit at We School PGDM Business Design at Mumbai.

Just wanted to know that whether students of this course get positions
in Finance Firms, I mean positions as Investment Manager or Credit Analyst
or Fund Manager as I want to have my career in Finance Field only.

Or Should I go for one more CAT attempt???

Seniors, I would be grateful enough if you people could help me in making a right decision. The dates are close, please help....puys

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hello all,
i am working in HCL since 2 months! i got to know that software industry is not my cup of tea!! guys i really want to do something which i love doing! my work should be my play but i am not able to find out what i should do? i some times think of becoming an ad maker and etc but i am not able to get clarity in what i want to do? seniors help me out!! suggest me something so that i discover myself and do something which i really enjoy!! i have done my btech in electrical engineering and i have very good acads!! i want to do something in which i am physically involved! i dont want to sit infront of computers all my life! i want to go out and meeet people and be invloved physically!! i love nature and love being in forest type areas! i am also interested in musci and play guitar!! i dont like a fast paced corporate life!! i love living life at my own pace!! i really like to contribute sometihing to society and i want some value to what i do not like this software job where i dont know why am i doing it! guys just tell me how found out what u want to do in life!!!




The best option would be a PG degree from TISS or IRMA, both are relatively easy to crack, Socially conscious, placements in NGOs, Rural developments etc., You may try IIFM too, And there is a different side to every individual, like music, arts, nature observations, very few actually cultivate that part.
Keep and develop thems as your inner strengths where you can sometimes escape from the rush and competition of outer/material world.

:drinking:
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phoenix98 Says
If you are taking mocks like AIMCATS then anything in the range of 70%tile is very good. 92-94%tile is just too good. No I am not trying to make you happy but its a fact that student who get 70-80%tile in mocks like aimcats they can hope for more than 90%tile in actual cat.

thanks for this but tell me how to overcome this barrier?
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phoenix98 Says
If you are taking mocks like AIMCATS then anything in the range of 70%tile is very good. 92-94%tile is just too good. No I am not trying to make you happy but its a fact that student who get 70-80%tile in mocks like aimcats they can hope for more than 90%tile in actual cat.

shantanu121287 Says
thanks for this but tell me how to overcome this barrier?


hey g2 see some equals...!!!

Sorry phoenix i beg to differ..
Shantanu,
It is a misconception(though there are exceptions) that if u score 70-80%le in Aimcat u will score in the range of 95+%le in CAT ,
MY ANALYSIS is your percentile in CATis between your Most frequent percentile score in Aimcat and highest percentile score in Aimcat ( this should be in later aimcats ) ---if u consider only aimcats

This is true in 99% cases for those 1% who are exceptions , who score more then 95%le , how they do?
1)Join as many quality mocks as possible increase the most frequent score
2)Practice meditation
3)Practice mocks w/o any pressure and reciprocate same in CAT (maximise attempt with accuracy, do as fast as u can even while practicing at home)
4)Generally for people like us every crest will follow more than one trough so don't get depressed , crest in scores has to come
5)Always calc. ur ideal score i.e score which u could have scored w/o any pressure and which u were worth of and check the difference


Some are my advise and some are experiences of seniors.... I tell u the day of CAT is exactly similar to a mock AIMCAT or SIMCAT or CL prock....
so never underestimate their scores, but bring better scores more frequently , otherwise we will be among those 99% people ( mediocre ) saying YEH MERE SAATH HI HOTA HAI , MERA NASEEB HI KHARAB HAI....

Im in same boat as u... and i know many are in but if we have to join 1% league....we need to remember above 5 pts.
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Agreeing a lot with hungrymind26, I would say that don't have misplaced optimism but be critically analytical of yourself and the tests you take.

Always do some simple things
-Calculate the raw total that you have got out the total possible gettable marks and reflect on it.
-Balance all the sections.
-Strategy is important. decide your strategy and experiment but stick to your basic principles and goals.
-Always build up on your strengths and weaknesses.

Where is I disagree is
1)I dont think 99% of 95+ percentiled students meditated :
2) I would plainly disagree with joining As many quality mock cats as possible because the question is with quality and not quantity.

There are hardly 3 mock cats in the country that can do any good to you.
Out of the 3, each one of them has their own plusses and minuses and you have take a calculated decision.

At best join 2 mocks. Its evaluation and reflection that matters. Random paper solving is not the end but a means to an end. Analysis is god.


What is critical analysis?
-Be critical of yourself when you fail or succeed.
-Be critical of the test paper no matter if you do good or bad.
-If you did good be brave enough to call the paper easy.
-If you screwed up something that you are good at, be brave enough to question the paper setter and his answers.
-As a person who is preparing, the most important question is Why and How and not just What.

Crest and trough is all fine, but all the crests and troughs should basically agree with "a line of best fit" which is on the rise as a whole. If its not doing so then there are problems.

It is definitely not true that if you score 70-80%ile in mock cats then you will score 90+ in cat :|
but its surprisingly not true as well that if you score 90+ in mock cats then you will not score 70-80% in cat :

Here is why.

The aimcat/simcat/Mockcat percentiles once upon a time used to mirror and even fortell your cat percentiles but that outlook has taken a severe beating since last year cat. There are a million reasons why this happened but main reasons are that the testing architecture of cat and the aimcats aren't the same, the scoring methodology isn't the same either because the scoring methodology is now a trade secret and thus no test-prep institute gets to know the actual method, they can only come close.

But ofcourse if a guy is getting 98+ in every test consistently then obviously he is going to get good scores but this correlation would have been a fact if the earlier cat testing and scoring method would have been preserved but that is not true. Its sadly not a fact anymore.

So the correlation between the percentiles that you get in the tests vs what you get in real cat has definitely weakened down a lot.

Also, may be, just may be, there should be a little bit of change in how we approach cat now. The test-prep institutes should change their questions ad methodology likewise as well.

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Agreeing a lot with hungrymind26, I would say that don't have misplaced optimism but be critically analytical of yourself and the tests you take.

Always do some simple things
-Calculate the raw total that you have got out the total possible gettable marks and reflect on it.
-Balance all the sections.
-Strategy is important. decide your strategy and experiment but stick to your basic principles and goals.
-Always build up on your strengths and weaknesses.

Where is I disagree is
1)I dont think 99% of 95+ percentiled students meditated :
2) I would plainly disagree with joining As many quality mock cats as possible because the question is with quality and not quantity.

There are hardly 3 mock cats in the country that can do any good to you.
Out of the 3, each one of them has their own plusses and minuses and you have take a calculated decision.

At best join 2 mocks. Its evaluation and reflection that matters. Random paper solving is not the end but a means to an end. Analysis is god.


What is critical analysis?
-Be critical of yourself when you fail or succeed.
-Be critical of the test paper no matter if you do good or bad.
-If you did good be brave enough to call the paper easy.
-If you screwed up something that you are good at, be brave enough to question the paper setter and his answers.
-As a person who is preparing, the most important question is Why and How and not just What.

Crest and trough is all fine, but all the crests and troughs should basically agree with "a line of best fit" which is on the rise as a whole. If its not doing so then there are problems.

It is definitely not true that if you score 70-80%ile in mock cats then you will score 90+ in cat :|
but its surprisingly not true as well that if you score 90+ in mock cats then you will not score 70-80% in cat :

Here is why.



I want to raise a point here, there is no such thing as generalized formula for CAT or MBA entrances. Every individual is different.

har Koi apne andaz se bara hota hai. There are people who don't even take mocks yet crack various entrances. So choose the unique right path(har koi ka apna alag raasta hota hai). Some people are so involved in mock they forget mock is just a preparation, the real incident is the D-day, anything can happen.
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rednewparis Says
thanks for the reply!!! i need some more options. i just want to discover what i want to do in my life!! and also one more question! howz the life after iifm? like what work i would be doing and where and how much il be earning!!? thanks

http://www.iifm.ac.in/admission/IIFM_Placement_Handbook_2010.pdf


check the above link. 😃
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Hi Puys,

I'm a Telecom engg with on and off exp for the past 2 years. I've given the CAT once in 2007 and scored 60 without studying. I guess that's bad, but I think I can still make it while preparing properly for about 5 months...which I've already started.
In 2008, joined work and since then the on and off... I can see I'm more satisfied talking to people and with doing analysis and management rather than actual Techie work; though I'd still like to stay on with Telecom;
Also did soem System Integration work and found that a lot of fun, it had to do with consulting also. I was intrigued and I then thought the combination was awesome. MBA + still being in Telecom + continuously working. BUT there are so many issues... but .. I need to deal with the pressure.. I am aware of that...
I want to go for an MBA, so I can add some knowledge to the 2 years I've been going so slow in plus that I can't see myself doing purely technical work, and then age is another factor. I need to up my education.

So now I'm considering part-time or distance.

1.) Is any such thing as one being better than the other.. I need to continue earning as I have no savings. I support the family so keeping a job alongside is Important!!

Might go for Full time LATER in life, but i have no choice now really. And this may turn out more fruitful anyways.

2.) I'm very unsure about whether a 'good' B-school will actually take me because of my on-&-off experience,...

3.) I cannot afford the really high ranked colleges, but I will be looking into scholarships too and external funding. But I still want to get the degree from the best possible place. I even have to select FEW colleges and narrow the list so that I don't spend too much just applying here and there...

What can you all suggest?? If i can get answers to ANY of these queries I will be sooo grateful.

Thanks a LOT!

hi,
for part time mba you can try fore school of management and bimtech(noida),
these two i know donot have that high requirements compared to colleges like fms,
for distance mode you can try narsee monjee and imt,
and even ignou distance mba is good..
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@ Seniors and Fellow Puys...

Need your reply asap.

I got Final Admit at We School PGDM Business Design at Mumbai.

Just wanted to know that whether students of this course get positions
in Finance Firms, I mean positions as Investment Manager or Credit Analyst
or Fund Manager as I want to have my career in Finance Field only.

Or Should I go for one more CAT attempt???

Seniors, I would be grateful enough if you people could help me in making a right decision. The dates are close, please help....puys


Com'mon Puys.... I need your help desperately....Anyone who has a idea about the same....
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s'squre Says
Com'mon Puys.... I need your help desperately....Anyone who has a idea about the same....


You seem like a new guy so...

See, no person is going to reply to you about this in here and I don't think you should even expect an answer for such a question.

May be a guy or two may pm you but thats it.
All of them will be perceptions.

1) A person inside the school won't call it bad
2) A person outside will not know enough to call it good or bad

You are the only one who can decide over such stuff.

Best of luck.
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Dear all,

This is probably the most generic question that I'm about to ask.

I'm currently working with a renowned Bank at managerial level. And prior to this, I have had experience of working with world's top KPO and Ites related organisation which sum up my total experience of near about 6 years. My age is 28 and post graduation although insisted by my family, I didn't opt for an MBA on purpose just due to obscure vision about subject, college and other things. Now after having worked for sometime, I want to go for an MBA (Indian or foreign university).

I had average academics - X - 76%, XII - 68%, Grad (commerce) - 55% and M.Com. (Economics) - 46%...a steep declining graph :-)...

I was good at sports and have represented state in Volleyball and basketball and was Head boy of the school.

Could you all, please throw some light on how much Gmat score is at least a must for a good institute for my profile and thereafter what could be my options.

Just FYI; I want to pursue my career in Investment banking.

Thank you in anticipation.
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hello every1
im a fresher,will be taking a serious shot at d various mgmt entrance exams dis yr.i m a regular classroom program student with time.the problem is,im not able 2 do well in d aimcats.i have completed d study mat of time at par wid class n my responses 2 d class teachings n discussions are also good,but i just am not able 2 deliver in d aimcats,concentration levels falls beyond half while taking d tests.though i think im good at english.i get most of d rcs wrong,di is also troubling me.im very frustated wid my self,n wid 4 months 2 cat im really pissed of.some1 plz advice me how to tackle things from here on.

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Dear all,

This is probably the most generic question that I'm about to ask.

I'm currently working with a renowned Bank at managerial level. And prior to this, I have had experience of working with world's top KPO and Ites related organisation which sum up my total experience of near about 6 years. My age is 28 and post graduation although insisted by my family, I didn't opt for an MBA on purpose just due to obscure vision about subject, college and other things. Now after having worked for sometime, I want to go for an MBA (Indian or foreign university).

I had average academics - X - 76%, XII - 68%, Grad (commerce) - 55% and M.Com. (Economics) - 46%...a steep declining graph :-)...

I was good at sports and have represented state in Volleyball and basketball and was Head boy of the school.

Could you all, please throw some light on how much Gmat score is at least a must for a good institute for my profile and thereafter what could be my options.

Just FYI; I want to pursue my career in Investment banking.

Thank you in anticipation.


You may go for PGPX the one year MBA at any of the IIMs, IIMA average GMAT requirement is 710, Other IIMs 650+, with C, B, L on higher side. Depends on lot of other factors, primarily work ex & extra curricular.
IIM PGPX costs around 20 Lakhs for 1 year, But placement figures are paranormal with average salary around 20 Lakhs. :)

ISB though preferred by many is not placement proof or rather shock proof

If you are planning to do a two year MBA you probably have to take CAT or Other MBA entrances.