Last season, I scored in the top percentile and earned calls from IIMs , FMS , IITs , et cetera .At the last moment , I skipped all my interviews for services .Seats at IIMs up for grabs: 3000 approx. (number of CAT applicants= 2L ) ; Posts under UPSC Civil :1037 (applicants : 4.5 L +) Post per applicant ka ratio nikalo to around 6.75 ata hai . The quantity and quality of hours you need to put in for civils is way way more than you would need in case of CAT
well analysed,,, just to add to what you said , there is a great difference between preparing for cat and cs,,to clear cs, forget anything else, but just the amount of knowledge that one needs to have is far far more than any other exam,,
@civill What do you mean by higher level? Do you think only mediocre get through IAS/Civil Services? If that is the case, then I do not agree with you.
and dear no 1 is mediokr in this country any one who stdy hrd cn clr this also sizeand w8 of mind is same for all.
Last season, I scored in the top percentile and earned calls from IIMs , FMS , IITs , et cetera .At the last moment , I skipped all my interviews for services .Seats at IIMs up for grabs: 3000 approx. (number of CAT applicants= 2L ) ; Posts under UPSC Civil :1037 (applicants : 4.5 L +) Post per applicant ka ratio nikalo to around 6.75 ata hai . The quantity and quality of hours you need to put in for civils is way way more than you would need in case of CAT
Civil services can never be cracked by any individual simply by practising which is the case for
for CAT and other competitive examinations.It requires knowledge at the core,covered with devotion and practise at the contours.With the introduction of CSAT,there are instances of non-serious candidates clearing the prelims but civil service proves the strength of its pillars by effectively filtering them out at the subsequent stages.One more thing,1037 seats were the highest in many years-the usual trend being 920-930 seats per annum,which is going to be the case this year as well.Out of 4.5 lacs candidates appearing for prelims,roughly 12000 odd students qualify for mains.In the interview,usually 3 times the total vacancy of candidates are called.
Apart from this,there is a concept of "SCALING" which acts as a DEMON and considerably affects ones prospect of scoring high in mains.
Civil services can never be cracked by any individual simply by practising which is the case for for CAT and other competitive examinations.It requires knowledge at the core,covered with devotion and practise at the contours.With the introduction of CSAT,there are instances of non-serious candidates clearing the prelims but civil service proves the strength of its pillars by effectively filtering them out at the subsequent stages.One more thing,1037 seats were the highest in many years-the usual trend being 920-930 seats per annum,which is going to be the case this year as well.Out of 4.5 lacs candidates appearing for prelims,roughly 12000 odd students qualify for mains.In the interview,usually 3 times the total vacancy of candidates are called. Apart from this,there is a concept of "SCALING" which acts as a DEMON and considerably affects ones prospect of scoring high in mains.
Civil services can never be cracked by any individual simply by practising which is the case for for CAT and other competitive examinations.It requires knowledge at the core,covered with devotion and practise at the contours.With the introduction of CSAT,there are instances of non-serious candidates clearing the prelims but civil service proves the strength of its pillars by effectively filtering them out at the subsequent stages.One more thing,1037 seats were the highest in many years-the usual trend being 920-930 seats per annum,which is going to be the case this year as well.Out of 4.5 lacs candidates appearing for prelims,roughly 12000 odd students qualify for mains.In the interview,usually 3 times the total vacancy of candidates are called. Apart from this,there is a concept of "SCALING" which acts as a DEMON and considerably affects ones prospect of scoring high in mains.
Civil services can never be cracked by any individual simply by practising which is the case for
for CAT and other competitive examinations.It requires knowledge at the core,covered with devotion and practise at the contours.With the introduction of CSAT,there are instances of non-serious candidates clearing the prelims but civil service proves the strength of its pillars by effectively filtering them out at the subsequent stages.One more thing,1037 seats were the highest in many years-the usual trend being 920-930 seats per annum,which is going to be the case this year as well.Out of 4.5 lacs candidates appearing for prelims,roughly 12000 odd students qualify for mains.In the interview,usually 3 times the total vacancy of candidates are called.
Apart from this,there is a concept of "SCALING" which acts as a DEMON and considerably affects ones prospect of scoring high in mains.
Is scaling still applicable in IAS mains??...:o
I thought that it has been abolished after the implementation of CSAT.
Is scaling still applicable in IAS mains??...I thought that it has been abolished after the implementation of CSAT.
Unfortunately,yes.It is still there in mains and last year i.e. 2011, people with optionals such as pub ad had an avg. of 220 whereas indian language literature students such as "MAITHILI" and "PALI" ended up scoring an average of 300+.UPSC still acts as a monarchy.
Civil services can never be cracked by any individual simply by practising which is the case for for CAT and other competitive examinations.It requires knowledge at the core,covered with devotion and practise at the contours.With the introduction of CSAT,there are instances of non-serious candidates clearing the prelims but civil service proves the strength of its pillars by effectively filtering them out at the subsequent stages.One more thing,1037 seats were the highest in many years-the usual trend being 920-930 seats per annum,which is going to be the case this year as well.Out of 4.5 lacs candidates appearing for prelims,roughly 12000 odd students qualify for mains.In the interview,usually 3 times the total vacancy of candidates are called. Apart from this,there is a concept of "SCALING" which acts as a DEMON and considerably affects ones prospect of scoring high in mains.
Practicing and cramming in-depth is the case with csat , not with cat and other exams ; Aptitude and intellect doesn't help much , except in quant, and in learning new subjects 😃
Practicing and cramming in-depth is the case with csat , not with cat and other exams ;Aptitude and intellect doesn't help much , except in quant, and in learning new subjects
When you talk about civil service,the list of subjects that you need to conquer is DEEPER than the Mariana trench(pacific) and TALLER than the Everest.Therefore,you have to admire the power of intellect and aptitude.Moreover,you seem to have a limited understanding of the civil services and that confined you to merely the CSAT ,which is, at the most- a SCREENING test for the mains.Anyways,when i said that the civil service is the mother of all examination,it didn't at all spell the fact that other competitive examinations are any simple as long as it is conducted in INDIA.
When you talk about civil service,the list of subjects that you need to conquer is DEEPER than the Mariana trench(pacific) and TALLER than the Everest.Therefore,you have to admire the power of intellect and aptitude.Moreover,you seem to have a limited understanding of the civil services and that confined you to merely the CSAT ,which is, at the most- a SCREENING test for the mains.Anyways,when i said that the civil service is the mother of all examination,it didn't at all spell the fact that other competitive examinations are any simple as long as it is conducted in INDIA.
CSAT has a procedural approach that emphasis on cramming and studying in depth.. ; and mains even worse. Intellect and aptitude is a far cry here - if you have a good memory and average IQ , u can crack it in time . But off course you've got to perform better than others ; there is huge competition owing to the verity of people mugging it up all these years ; it's taxing, but for the percentile you need to be in ,and not the prerequisite skills. There isn't much IQ needed for an in-depth reading , for it's not an analysis of some higgs annexing boson ; rather perseverance and diligence sees you through. It won't be fair to compare it with other examinations , if you're good with maths or English - you can crack most of 'em ; not the same with IAS , there are different parameters - the number of applicants , profiles of the same , the number of seats , and complexity of the procedure ; certainly we can't contemplate 'em all.
Neverthelesssooner or later the pattern has to change :)
@dragster@MISSION-IAS hy i m b tech final yr student and now thinking of IAS ....i have a little confusion that should i take MAITHILI as one of my optionals....pls answer keeping in mind each and every prospect of MAITHALI...THANX in advance..
CSAT has a procedural approach that emphasis on cramming and studying in depth.. ;and mains even worse.Intellect and aptitude is a far cry here - if you have a good memory and average IQ , u can crack it in time . But off course you've got to perform better than others ;there is huge competition owing to the verity of people mugging it up all these years ;it's taxing, but for the percentile you need to be in ,and not the prerequisite skills.There isn't much IQ needed for an in-depth reading , for it's not an analysis of some higgs annexing boson ; rather perseverance and diligence sees you through.It won't be fair to compare it with other examinations , if you're good with maths or English - you can crack most of 'em ; not the same with IAS , there are different parameters - the number of applicants , profiles of the same , the number of seats , and complexity of the procedure ; certainly we can't contemplate 'em all.Neverthelesssooner or later the pattern has to change
Points well taken barring some exceptions.
P.S. You again missed the spot by saying that it doesn't require analysis.It is a whole analytical world out there and "change is a natural phenomenon" and it is happening.
Points well taken barring some exceptions. P.S. You again missed the spot by saying that it doesn't require analysis.It is a whole analytical world out there and "change is a natural phenomenon" and it is happening.
sure, will let you know when I clear mains I've missed a lot of things, including the lasting-failures in my life.
@dragster@MISSION-IAS hy i m b tech final yr student and now thinking of IAS ....i have a little confusion that should i take MAITHILI as one of my optionals....pls answer keeping in mind each and every prospect of MAITHALI...THANX in advance..
Maithili is a beautiful subject and i would highly recommend it to you provided you come from the "MITHILANCHAL" region.Study material is scarce and can prove to be a huge barrier if you don't have access to the indigenous sources of study which are primarily available ONLY in the Mithila belt of Bihar and Patna.Very few(Negligible) coaching centres teach maithili as an optional causing resource crunch for maithili study material.
Nevertheless,it compensates for it in the form of precious marks that you can get without going through immense competition as the no. of students opting for it is less and the syllabus can be completed with 3 months of devoted study.It has emerged as one of the highest scoring subject in recent years.
