its jus abt deciding wat u want i can say m more inclined towards the ias thing so lets whr i land up wat u planin i mean u didnt tel me wat do u do wat u plan to do
zener diode Saysi am based in kolkata if i take postal coaching from"vajiram and ravi" will it be ok? i am taking public administration for the prelims . or it is better to go to delhi?
I don't know anything about the quality of postal coaching offered by any institute. But Delhi is the place to be if you are a serious candidate for civil service exam. Resources and Environment for study available here is not available anywhere.
It is not that successful aspirants by a rule have to prepare in delhi. But being in Delhi makes it a little easier. And for such a difficult exam , even a little is a lot.
gmat0032 Saysits jus abt deciding wat u want i can say m more inclined towards the ias thing so lets whr i land up wat u planin i mean u didnt tel me wat do u do wat u plan to do
I have been working in IT for past 4 years. Trying my luck in Civils.
Everyone is talking about changes in the UPSC pattern. Can anyone tell me the new pattern??????
ani.davv SaysEveryone is talking about changes in the UPSC pattern. Can anyone tell me the new pattern??????
The pattern of the exam is same this year. There was a good chance that it would have changed this year. But it did not. For next year ....nothing concrete can be said. But what i know through my friends, who in turn were told by their other friends, the new pattern would have same exams for all candidates and the optionals thing would be done away with. Also , it would be implemented in 2 phases, with first an aptitude based prelims exam , and then from next year, a series of papers based on history, geography, polity current affairs, etc in mains exam .
PS : This info is presented to the best of my knowledge. The changes, if any, would be known only when the next notice comes out in December 2010.
Also , it would be implemented in 2 phases, with first an aptitude based prelims exam , and then from next year, a series of papers based on history, geography, polity current affairs, etc in mains exam .
This whole issue of UPSC - changing the pattern - came to the fore due to Prof. D.P. Agrawal's (Chairman of UPSC) Speech on the UPSC Foundation Day.The proposed pattern is getting away with OPTIONALS in preliminary examination and replace it with a Civil Services Aptitude Examination . This Civil Services Aptitude Examination will have 2 papers and would not be your common CAT type aptitude exam. It will have questions from History, Geography, Current Affairs, Sci & Tech, General Mental Ability, Decision Making & Ethics, Polity and Economy. My interpretation is- they will club History, Geography, Polity and Economy into Paper-I and GMA,Sci & Tech, Decision Making & Ethics and Current Affairs into Paper-II.
However,The format of Main Examination will remain unchanged.Even in his speech Prof.D.P. Agrawal, has spoken about change in the Preliminary Examination.So,We'll have standard 2 optionals,1GS,1 English, 1 Scheduled Language and an Essay paper in the MAIN EXAMINATION.
There have been talks about reducing the number of attempts as well as reducing the age limit but then this up to the political will of the parliament and usually, such contentious populist issues are left undisturbed.
This whole issue of UPSC - changing the pattern - came to the fore due to Prof. D.P. Agrawal's (Chairman of UPSC) Speech on the UPSC Foundation Day.The proposed pattern is getting away with OPTIONALS in preliminary examination and replace it with a Civil Services Aptitude Examination . This Civil Services Aptitude Examination will have 2 papers and would not be your common CAT type aptitude exam. It will have questions from History, Geography, Current Affairs, Sci & Tech, General Mental Ability, Decision Making & Ethics, Polity and Economy. My interpretation is- they will club History, Geography, Polity and Economy into Paper-I and GMA,Sci & Tech, Decision Making & Ethics and Current Affairs into Paper-II.
However,The format of Main Examination will remain unchanged.Even in his speech Prof.D.P. Agrawal, has spoken about change in the Preliminary Examination.So,We'll have standard 2 optionals,1GS,1 English, 1 Scheduled Language and an Essay paper in the MAIN EXAMINATION.
There have been talks about reducing the number of attempts as well as reducing the age limit but then this up to the political will of the parliament and usually, such contentious populist issues are left undisturbed.
I think you have mentioned about the recommendations of the committee. But the question is about the current change in the pattern.
UPSC Civil Services Examination has always been an elitist sort of examination, where the passing rate of people who have a good pedigree in terms of family education background have been much higher. By this it is meant that who have greater exposure succeed in UPSC. There have been case where people from humble pedigree have succeeded but they are more sort of an exception.
UPSC is a sound body which knows these facts. Also, it wanted to give a common ground for the players to contest at equal level and ease. So, from Mains 2009, specially in GS, the paper showed an inclination towards this. The question were not of traditional style and wanted people to not only know the things but also have opinion about it.
For eg (not from the paper), Take an example of Yashpal Committee's report on Higher Education. Previously, if it was asked that mention your views on improving higher education, you could have mentioned the points form Yashpal Committee's report without mentioning his name and you were good enough. This was expected. But now they expect you to critically analyse the report and present your views on the same. So, more emphasis is on thought process rather than mugging up things. That means you need to be proper with your current affairs.
i have heard( infact read ) that people with second class are not preferred finally even if they qualify i have second class in masters wil it be ok for me to write the exam ( with the hope i will qualify after 3 attempts )
Palak Mathur SaysI think you have mentioned about the recommendations of the committee.
1.I was explaining the stance of UPSC Chairman Prof. D.P.Agrawal, Have a look at the content of his speech:
UPSC FOUNDATION DAY
2. In the post where I've not involved facts I've clearly written that it is MY INTERPRETATION
ERGO -> I was not talking about any committee (Most prolly HOTA Committee in this case)
But the question is about the current change in the pattern.
I guess you have misread.Please read the post of Himanshu_Split - He was talking about Change in the pattern of Examination (and NOT question paper) and hence my reply.
UPSC Civil Services Examination has always been an elitist sort of examination, where the passing rate of people who have a good pedigree in terms of family education background have been much higher. By this it is meant that who have greater exposure succeed in UPSC. There have been case where people from humble pedigree have succeeded but they are more sort of an exception.
TRUE!! and this is one of the governing principle of HOTA Committee recommendations
UPSC is a sound body which knows these facts. Also, it wanted to give a common ground for the players to contest at equal level and ease.
So, from Mains 2009, specially in GS, the paper showed an inclination towards this. The question were not of traditional style and wanted people to not only know the things but also have opinion about it.
I still donot understand how the 1st part is related to the 2nd part?
The only logic that one could make out of Last year's GS paper is that UPSC is trying to eliminate rote learners, I highly doubt that it has got anyhting to do with the social equity part.
For eg (not from the paper), Take an example of Yashpal Committee's report on Higher Education. Previously, if it was asked that mention your views on improving higher education, you could have mentioned the points form Yashpal Committee's report without mentioning his name and you were good enough. This was expected. But now they expect you to critically analyse the report and present your views on the same. So, more emphasis is on thought process rather than mugging up things. That means you need to be proper with your current affairs.
Again the example you gave is meant to marginalise rote learning.
zener diode Saysi have heard( infact read ) that people with second class are not preferred finally even if they qualify i have second class in masters wil it be ok for me to write the exam ( with the hope i will qualify after 3 attempts )
UPSC is a constitutional body and it cannot discriminate on the basis of unreasonable parameters. I have seen many 2nd class guyz becoming an IAS, Work Hard and you'll sail through.
I still haven't got acknowledgment card.. Did everyone else get it?
Please don't take it personally! What you said is correct. But I am of the opinion that it is not useful currently for a person who wants to know about the pattern of the exam, though it may be useful in terms of general knowledge. I am more concerned with current pattern and the pattern swings in the same.
1.I was explaining the stance of UPSC Chairman Prof. D.P.Agrawal, Have a look at the content of his speech:
UPSC FOUNDATION DAY
2. In the post where I've not involved facts I've clearly written that it is MY INTERPRETATION
ERGO -> I was not talking about any committee (Most prolly HOTA Committee in this case)
I guess you have misread.Please read the post of Himanshu_Split - He was talking about Change in the pattern of Examination (and NOT question paper) and hence my reply.
TRUE!! and this is one of the governing principle of HOTA Committee recommendations
I still donot understand how the 1st part is related to the 2nd part?
The only logic that one could make out of Last year's GS paper is that UPSC is trying to eliminate rote learners, I highly doubt that it has got anyhting to do with the social equity part.
Again the example you gave is meant to marginalise rote learning.
UPSC is a constitutional body and it cannot discriminate on the basis of unreasonable parameters. I have seen many 2nd class guyz becoming an IAS, Work Hard and you'll sail through.
I have not said that you were wrong. As of now the pattern of the examination has not changed. If you have taken Mains 2009, then you would know what I am talking about. Pattern of the exam is still the same and still they are thinking to implement it. But the structure of question paper in terms of the questions asked has changed and there was a much of hue and cry after the exam. I know many people who didn't took the entire exam after GS paper. I am talking about that change. There is no new pattern of the exam as such. That has not happened yet. But the change in the structure of question paper is current and we should discuss this on that terms as it is more relevant to the exam. This is more helpful then just quoting the recommendations.
PreBha SaysI still haven't got acknowledgment card.. Did everyone else get it?
Don't worry!! It takes upto 30 days from the day you posted to get the acknowledgement card. If still you don't receive the card then you may call the UPSC and ask.
hi
i have submitted posted my form on 1 st feb(last day of receipt of application) it reached upsc on 3 feb . would dey still accept the form ?
how can i track my form.Earlier der used to be a link for tracking of ur form .. i think dey removed dat link.
They don't even receive the phone ,...sm one help me out ...
zener diode Saysi have heard( infact read ) that people with second class are not preferred finally even if they qualify i have second class in masters wil it be ok for me to write the exam ( with the hope i will qualify after 3 attempts )
Where have you heard or read this? Don't worry. UPSC is a very rational body.
Hello All,
I am an aspirant of Indian Civil Services. I have been told that number of participants in IFS(Indian Forest Services) are very low and it's very easy to crack. Kindly give your opinion about it. Please tell me number of participants in IFS and IAS 2009 examination with source of information(so that I can cite it to the person who gave above statement).
Hello All,
I am an aspirant of Indian Civil Services. I have been told that number of participants in IFS(Indian Forest Services) are very low and it's very easy to crack. Kindly give your opinion about it. Please tell me number of participants in IFS and IAS 2009 examination with source of information(so that I can cite it to the person who gave above statement).
2006-07 2007-08 2008-09
applicants
1. CS(P) 383983 333680 325433
2. CS(M) 7692 9158 11669
3. IFoS 35601 31887 32872
appeared
1. CS(P) 195803 161469 167035
2. CS(M) 7496 8886 11330
3. IFoS 8882 7696 7659
interviewed
1 CS (M), 2007 1883
7 IFoS, 2008 230
recommended
1. CS(M), 2007 638
3. IFoS 2007 40
4. IFoS, 2008 84
source -- 59th UPSC annual report( available on UPSC website)
There are no arts subjects in forest service exam. So people with history, geography, pub ad, etc. as subjects in civil services do not attempt this exam.
Hello All,
I am an aspirant of Indian Civil Services. I have been told that number of participants in IFS(Indian Forest Services) are very low and it's very easy to crack. Kindly give your opinion about it. Please tell me number of participants in IFS and IAS 2009 examination with source of information(so that I can cite it to the person who gave above statement).
Hi,
Number of participants in IFS and Civil Services varies each year and certainly candidates participating in Forest Services are less in comparison to Civil Services Examination. But saying that it is easy to crack would be making a mockery of oneself. Every exam has its own requirements and the candidates who are successful to accomplish those are finally selected.
Papers of Forest Services and Civil Services are different in terms of choice of subjects available for writing the exam. Civil Services Examination offers you subjects from varied backgrounds from humanities, commerce, sciences and engineering subjects as well. However, Forest Services Examination offers only Science and Engineering subjects only (http://www.upsc.gov.in/exams/notific...1.htm#Optional Subjects). On seeing the subjects on offer for Forest Services, saying Forest Service is easier to crack would be wrong.
I think that I have answered your question. I can't provide the complete statistics about the exam because it will require me to search internet and then verify it too which will take much of my time that I could utilize for my preparation.
It would be better if you choose your subjects properly and prepare them well. Please keep yourself aloof from these unproductive discussions. These lead us no where. Why do you want to show the statistics to that person. Leave it. He might be right or wrong. How does it matter? If you are preparing well and working in the right direction, then you can crack any examination.
All the best!!
Hi anonymous,
Number of participants in IFS and Civil Services varies each year and certainly candidates participating in Forest Services are less in comparison to Civil Services Examination. But saying that it is easy to crack would be making a mockery of oneself. Every exam has its own requirements and the candidates who are successful to accomplish those are finally selected.
Papers of Forest Services and Civil Services are different in terms of choice of subjects available for writing the exam. Civil Services Examination offers you subjects from varied backgrounds from humanities, commerce, sciences and engineering subjects as well. However, Forest Services Examination offers only Science and Engineering subjects only (http://www.upsc.gov.in/exams/notific...1.htm#Optional Subjects). On seeing the subjects on offer for Forest Services, saying Forest Service is easier to crack would be wrong.
I think that I have answered your question. I can't provide the complete statistics about the exam because it will require me to search internet and then verify it too which will take much of my time that I could utilize for my preparation.
It would be better if you choose your subjects properly and prepare them well. Please keep yourself aloof from these unproductive discussions. These lead us no where. Why do you want to show the statistics to that person. Leave it. He might be right or wrong. How does it matter? If you are preparing well and working in the right direction, then you can crack any examination.
All the best!!
tel me whre is the link for upsc venue details list applicants
jaja6 Saystel me whre is the link for upsc venue details list applicants
I am not able to understand your requirement. Can you please be clear in your sentence framing?
could anyone guide me how to get the material for the prep of IES(except course books)......???