[2011] XAT and XLRI official thread for queries

I read in this thread that a lot of importance is given to critical reasoning....

Can some1 please site examples of critical reasoning please...what is it exactly......Please help!! :shock:


Critical reasoning questions are like small passage questions which tests the logical reasoning

for ex:they might give u an argument like
why cigeratte smoking is bad for health
and the question would be like what is the flaw in the argument or what is the assumption made by author etc
look at previous year paper or GMAT material for them

better look at official guide of GMAT to know the funda of critical reasoning

good thing abt CR is that it do not test ur verbal abilities but ur logical reasoning skills....
whymba Says
What is the last date to apply for SP Jain..?What is the procedure?


Hi,

The last date to apply for SP Jain is 30th November,2010. For more details visit the following page:

SPJIMR - SP Jain Institute of Management & Research, Mumbai

Regards,
Hemanth
I read in this thread that a lot of importance is given to critical reasoning....

Can some1 please site examples of critical reasoning please...what is it exactly......Please help!! :shock:

Oxygen-18 is a heavier-than-normal isotope of oxygen. In a rain cloud, water molecules containing oxygen-18 are rarer than water molecules containing normal oxygen. But in rainfall, a higher proportion of all water molecules containing oxygen-18 than of all water molecules containing ordinary oxygen descends to earth. Consequently, scientists were surprised when measurements along the entire route of rain clouds passage from above the Atlantic Ocean, the site of their original formation, across the Amazon forests, where it rains almost daily, showed that the oxygen-18 content of each of the clouds remained fairly constant.

Q>Which one of the following statements, if true, best helps to resolve the conflict between scientists expectations, based on the known behavior of oxygen-18, and the result of their measurements of the rain clouds oxygen-18 content?
(A) Rain clouds above tropical forests are poorer in oxygen-18 than rain clouds above unforested regions.
(B) Like the oceans, tropical rain forests can create or replenish rain clouds in the atmosphere above them.
(C) The amount of rainfall over the Amazon rain forests is exactly the same as the amount of rain originally collected in the clouds formed above the Atlantic Ocean.
(D) The amount of rain recycled back into the atmosphere from the leaves of forest vegetation is exactly the same as the amount of rain in river runoffs that is not recycled into the atmosphere.
(E) Oxygen-18 is not a good indicator of the effect of tropical rain forests on the atmosphere above them.

Q>Which one of the following inferences about an individual rain cloud is supported by the passage?
(A) Once it is formed over the Atlantic, the rain cloud contains more ordinary oxygen than oxygen-18.
(B) Once it has passed over the Amazon, the rain cloud contains a greater-than-normal percentage of oxygen-18.
(C) The clouds rainfall contains more oxygen-18 than ordinary oxygen.
(D) During a rainfall, the cloud must surrender the same percentage of its ordinary oxygen as of its oxygen-18.
(E) During a rainfall, the cloud must surrender more of its oxygen-l8 than it retains.

Q>It is very difficult to prove today that a painting done two or three hundred years ago, especially one without a signature or with a questionably authentic signature, is indubitably the work of this or that particular artist. This fact gives the traditional attribution of a disputed painting special weight, since that attribution carries the presumption of historical continuity. Consequently, an art historian arguing for a deattribution will generally convince other art historians only if he or she can persuasively argue for a specific reattribution.

Which one of the following, if true, most strongly supports the position that the traditional attribution of a disputed painting should not have special weight?
(A) Art dealers have always been led by economic self-interest to attribute any unsigned paintings of merit to recognized masters rather than to obscure artists.
(B) When a painting is originally created, there are invariably at least some eyewitnesses who see the artist at work, and thus questions of correct attribution cannot arise at that time.
(C) There are not always clearly discernible differences between the occasional inferior work produced by a master and the very best work produced by a lesser talent.
(D) Attribution can shape perception inasmuch as certain features that would count as marks of greatness in a masters work would be counted as signs of inferior artistry if a work were attributed to a minor artist.
(E) Even though some masters had specialists assist them with certain detail work, such as depicting lace, the resulting works are properly attributed to the masters alone.

Q>Much of the best scientific research of today shows that many of the results of earlier scientific work that was regarded in its time as good are in fact mistaken. Yet despite the fact that scientists are above all concerned to discover the truth, it is valuable for todays scientists to study firsthand accounts of earlier scientific work.

Which one of the following, if true, would best reconcile the two statements above?
(A) Many firsthand accounts of earlier, flawed scientific work are not generally known to be mistaken.
(B) Lessons in scientific methodology can be learned by seeing how earlier scientific work was carried out, sometimes especially when the results of that work are known to be incorrect.
(C) Scientists can make valuable contributions to the scientific work of their time even if the results of their work will later be shown to be mistaken.
(D) There are many scientists today who are not thoroughly familiar with earlier scientific research.
(E) Some of the better scientific research of today does not directly address earlier scientific work.

Question as the ones above come under CR.Gmat materials would be good source.Hope it helps.

Hello All,

Need urgent help!!
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I have applied for XLRI through Credit Card and downloaded the PA form which I have to send along with the certificates to XLRI ..but on the site read the below detail??
********
The candidate has to enclose the duly completed XLRI PA Form and photo copies of 10th, 12th and
graduation certificates
(or latest mark sheet of papers/years completed till date) and SC/ST certificate (for SC/ST candidates only)
through courier/registered post/speed post in the
special envelope given inside the prospectus. XLRI PA Form along with transaction receipt and photo copies
of the educational certificate should reach the
Admissions Office, XLRI, Circuit House Area (East), Jamshedpur-831001 within seven days from date of online
payment made.
*************
From whr I have to take the Special envelop?? as I applied through Credit Card?

Hello All,

Need urgent help!!
********************
I have applied for XLRI through Credit Card and downloaded the PA form which I have to send along with the certificates to XLRI ..but on the site read the below detail??
********
The candidate has to enclose the duly completed XLRI PA Form and photo copies of 10th, 12th and
graduation certificates
(or latest mark sheet of papers/years completed till date) and SC/ST certificate (for SC/ST candidates only)
through courier/registered post/speed post in the
special envelope given inside the prospectus. XLRI PA Form along with transaction receipt and photo copies
of the educational certificate should reach the
Admissions Office, XLRI, Circuit House Area (East), Jamshedpur-831001 within seven days from date of online
payment made.
*************
From whr I have to take the Special envelop?? as I applied through Credit Card?


that is a typing mistake. i had called xlri helpline and they asked me to send in any normal envelope
sourabhmanna Says
that is a typing mistake. i had called xlri helpline and they asked me to send in any normal envelope

Thanx a ton mere bhaii,,,,, waiting for reply onlyyy..... Thanx againn

Guys please excuse me.. Didnt have the time to read the previous Post.......

Can anyone of you please let me know what are the documents that needs to send to

1. XAT office
2. XLRI

I have applied for both the courses through credit Card. Currently i have both XAT and XLRI forms with me..

Guys please excuse me.. Didnt have the time to read the previous Post.......

Can anyone of you please let me know what are the documents that needs to send to

1. XAT office
2. XLRI

I have applied for both the courses through credit Card. Currently i have both XAT and XLRI forms with me..


for XAT form:

The candidate has to paste securely his/her recent passport size colour photograph and put his/her signature in the designated space provided on the XAT PP Form. The candidate has to enclose a copy of the XAT PP Form and send it by courier/registered post/speed post so as to reach XAT Office, XLRI, Circuit House Area (East), Jamshedpur-831001 within seven days of receiving the payment acknowledgement date.

for xlri:
The candidate has to enclose the duly completed XLRI PA Form and photo copies of 10th, 12th and graduation certificates (or latest mark sheet of papers/years completed till date) and SC/ST certificate (for SC/ST candidates only) through courier/registered post/speed post in an envelope. XLRI PA Form along with transaction receipt and photo copies of the educational certificate should reach the Admissions Office, XLRI, Circuit House Area (East), Jamshedpur-831001 within seven days from date of online payment made. Candidates are advised to keep a photo copy of all the forms that they send to XLRI for future reference.

I was trying to fill the XAT online form, but I am getting the message "Select any one assoiate institue", although I am seleting few of them.

Anyone who has faced the same problem, please help.

I have a query regarding my email-id in xat online form.
Ex:- [email protected]
i have written as
xx@yycom
due to non functioning of '.' key in my keyboard.i wrote a mail to them.didn't got any reply help puys.

Some silly questions I have the last date of sending form to XLRI is 5th december 2010 right? is the criteria of 10 days after registration manadatory?

Bhai logo,
I need clarification abt one thing which might have discussed in the thread but have not read the whole ..
xlri ka form bharna padega xat ke paper se pehle ?? aur last date kya haii....


last date for registration is 30th november.....n last date for submission is 5th december

Hi,

Is there any way to know whether our applications have reached XAT offices?

priyaranjan_b2w Says
Why dont yoi do a favour and ask in XLRI office and enlighten us. As my fellow candidates i am also very much apprehensive about this news so i wanted to get clarified.


I was talking about the percentile scores and not about exam.
You would know contents of the exam when you would read the instructions.
So,I have nothing to say about the exam pattern.

All the Best.
zener diode Says
Some silly questions I have the last date of sending form to XLRI is 5th december 2010 right? is the criteria of 10 days after registration manadatory?


yes,the last date of receipt of form at xlri office is 05dec.......well..the criteria is to send the form within seven days of full registration(that is,after payment of form)....:cheers:
I was trying to fill the XAT online form, but I am getting the message "Select any one assoiate institue", although I am seleting few of them.

Anyone who has faced the same problem, please help.

use internet explorer...

hi


don't we need to send any photograph with the xlri form ???

(guys ne one.......reply asap.....urgent !!!)
Thnx !

hey guys !!
Do we have to post photocopy of marksheets also??
i have passed but some previous post say it so..
Plz reply..............it's urgent



yes we have to....the below is mentioned on their site

The candidate has to paste securely his/her recent passport size colour photograph and put his/her signature in the designated space provided on the XAT PP Form. The candidate has to enclose a copy of the online payment receipt along with the XAT PP Form and send it by courier/registered post/speed post so as to reach XAT Office, XLRI, Circuit House Area (East), Jamshedpur-831001 within seven days of receiving the payment acknowledgement date.
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The candidate has to enclose the duly completed XLRI PA Form and photo copies of 10th, 12th and graduation certificates (or latest mark sheet of papers/years completed till date) and SC/ST certificate (for SC/ST candidates only) through courier/registered post/speed post in the special envelope given inside the prospectus. XLRI PA Form along with transaction receipt and photo copies of the educational certificate should reach the Admissions Office, XLRI, Circuit House Area (East), Jamshedpur-831001 within seven days from date of online payment made
Hi

I really doubt u appeared for XAT, as u do not even know dat XAT is a 140 min paper which includes three sections of 40 minutes each which counts to 120 minutes and one essay writing of 20 minutes. so total time period is 140 minutes.

TO CLARIFY YOU CAN THOROUGHLY CHECK THE LINK PROVIDED BY YOU


He did appear for XAT, cleared it and is one of the most talented and friendly persons in XLRI. He started this thread so that we can help you in whatever way we can.
One more thing for everyone's benefit,there was no such thing as 40 minute time limit per section.

All the Best
Hi,

Is there any way to know whether our applications have reached XAT offices?


This has been already answered buddy....check your application's status from here:
..::XAT 2010::..

In case of your application reaching XLRI (if you've applied), there is no way to check online. One can either check with courier service or wait for the prospectus to arrive 😁 :D.

Ch33rs,
Satish