To be or not to be,help me guys...

Starting this thread as i need advice from the elders here as well as the risk takers.First let me put my profile , 10th-79.6 (ICSE) 12th- 69.2(ISC) B.Tech from NIT calicut EEE 2003 66.5% Been workin for a software firm ,total exp 20…

Starting this thread as i need advice from the elders here as well as the risk takers.First let me put my profile ,
10th-79.6 (ICSE)
12th- 69.2(ISC)

B.Tech from NIT calicut EEE 2003 66.5%

Been workin for a software firm ,total exp 20 months as of today.

Extra Curri- Thats what i have been doing all my life.
state level badminton player.
member of india's first student quality circle and participated in ICQCC'95 at yokohama,japan.
have performed on AIR many times,have won awards in debates,skits,dramas etc etc.
was jr cult secy in college

Thats pretty impressive :)



gave CAT'2002 got 93 percentile with no prep.cleared MICA but did not join.
gave CAT '2004 with solid prep but had 2 worst hours and ended up with 89 percentile.

true it happens


1>keep working and give cat'2005.not sure will be able to takeout time for CAT prep.
2>quit my job, give full time to CAT prep and writing a book(????..hehe) .


Hmm well if you see you wrote ke solid preparation but 2 worst hours.. now do you givea lot of importance to taking out time for CAT preparation ?


but catch is that will i be able to justify my break from a regular work ex to taking off so that i can write a book and prepare for CAT?? can i sell that or better say,will the institutes and panel buy it?

But could you kindly elaborate about what book ? Plain curious


can the elders or other PGites tell me,have people with risk taking profiles cracked IIMs...or can contribute succes stories if they know any cases.
i do not have great acads,and am only interested in doing MBA in marketing, HR or advertising.cos there my heart lies...
please help guys..
Me.


I had read in this forum itself about a pgite in IIMC who had taken a break of 2 and half years. N he got through IIMC gd pi

Take care

hi

pooja, if u think in job u cannot prepare u can quit from u job , one can always justify , i have seen many people do the same, i myself did a similar thing and got through mdi, iit b and iimk waiting for c,l,i.

I think, you can leave your job after your bond expires.
And instead of taking a full fledged drop, try to find a chore.
Anything that doesn't require a lot of your time (may be marketing for banks) and join a tutorial at the same time (infact right from this moment onwards). This will be really helpful for you in maintaining regularity with your studies.
In case you are not sure, whether you want to, or could get, any other job, then I would say that you apply for a job in some s/w company.
What would you get from it?
leave your current job after lets say september. Get yourself selected in another job before that and just get your joining date delayed by 2-3 months (means, till end of november).
So you'll be getting 2 months of complete preparation time.
Simply join new after that and you are through.
How do you like it????
Best of luck...

Yeah I know what you mean man. I too had a higher percentile in CAT last year without much preparation. THis year was ....... well let it be. Man if you so interested in advertising why didnt you try out for MICA this year. I mean are you only looking at the top schools? Why dont you try taking up another job. Maybe it will pay less but...... if you enjoy it then you would be happier for a while till you got into a B-school. But you need to be willing to settle for a little less for a while. Anyways you do sound really frustrated in your current situation.

Dude you say that you dont like your job but then when your bond expires you would be looking at another "better" software job. WHat is the deal with this?
Your extracurrics are good.
All the best man!!
Ocean

Hey estranged_gnrs...:huh: ..buddy, I can so relate with you but only in terms of your problems and not the scores or extra ciricc. activ. ....

But I can tell what I intend to do now, and what I feel you should try to.....me too under a bond in a s/w firm.. ..which expires in Nov. and me too not looking fwd to continue here....

First..I can suggest that you take up classes for the prep. coz even if u managed to get a good score last time, this time taking time out with job going parallel, mite affect ur prep..which is something one cannot afford to do... ...me to signing up......that way, by default u'll put in a good amnt of time studying.....but rem. this is only a suggestion... ... u may manage to get the studies done properly by urself too....

Secondly, as u've already mentioned that you are very confident abt getting a 2nd job in another s/w c/o....u mite as well quit after you bond expires and take a 2-3 month break till CAT's over.....believe me, after 24-25 months of wrok-ex, u REALLY need a break....hopefully this shud not be an issue at the intrvw stage....U tell them the truth, u needed a break and also wanted to study for CAT...

Third....after the job break once u feel like getting back to working, can take a gamble like mentioned by another PGite (sorry didnot rem. to check his/her name) by pursuing a job in a non-techie sector...whichever interests you......and will def. help u out with ur intrvw....

Lets hope I was of some help to you in making up your mind reg. your future plans......

Do let us all know what you finally decide....All the best man....

Keep Rocking....

OM MBA NAMAH !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Starting this thread as i need advice from the elders here as well as the risk takers.First let me put my profile ,
10th-79.6 (ICSE)
12th- 69.2(ISC)

B.Tech from NIT calicut EEE 2003 66.5%

Been workin for a software firm ,total exp 20 months as of today.

Extra Curri- Thats what i have been doing all my life.
state level badminton player.
member of india's first student quality circle and participated in ICQCC'95 at yokohama,japan.
have performed on AIR many times,have won awards in debates,skits,dramas etc etc.
was jr cult secy in college
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Hi estranged_gnrs,
me got thru IIM B/C also. so now i can advise u more strongly .let me share my observations regarding full time preperation for CAT. i understand that u already did CAT prep twice. so u are not a newbeei anymore. u know whaz the syllabus, kind of questions and the standard of questions by now. Now, remember that CAT preperation comes in 2 stages.

1)LEARNING FUNDAS OF QUANT AND LOGIC etc
2) EXAM PERFORMANCE = APPLYING RIGHT STRATEGY AND CHOOSING RIGHT QUESTIONS TO SOLVE.

believe me i lost out on CAT in first attempt only because of the second part above. the more u are good at choosing right questions, the less u depend on the first part above . if u take out any of ur previos mock paper and analyse whereu got ur score from, its mostly from SILLY ,DUMB QUESTIONS which u an solve anyday.
SO IT ALL COMES DOWN TO SELECTION OF RIGHT QUESTIONS. that means it can be practised only through MOCK EXAMS every week. SO ITS NOT ABT SITTING AT HOME AND LEARNING MORE NEW FUNDAS. (believe me i still donot know the properties of parallelogram fundae even after cracking CAT. )

All this post to tell u that CAT score doesnot really depend on the TIMESCALE. neverthless, i feel u can give up the job so that u can have more peace of mind ,doing ur preperation. but expect nothing more from the free time u are going to get. concentrate on mock cats and improve ur performance week by week. please keep these in mind and go ahead for CAT 2005!. ATB.:)

hey estranged....first of all the same query as someone else earlier....why didn't u join MICA??....its one of the best institutes in India....and secondly i quite agree with sriks....i would suggest that u join the weekend batch of some coaching classes....it would be more than enough....and yah....give mock papers and analyse them for an hour....and u'll sail thru....u already have score fairly decent percentile the last 2 times....so it should be a cakewalk for u....plus u'r work ex, u'r extra curricular would make sure u sail thru and interview....gl




Hi estranged_gnrs,
me got thru IIM B/C also. so now i can advise u more strongly .let me share my observations regarding full time preperation for CAT. i understand that u already did CAT prep twice. so u are not a newbeei anymore. u know whaz the syllabus, kind of questions and the standard of questions by now. Now, remember that CAT preperation comes in 2 stages.

1)LEARNING FUNDAS OF QUANT AND LOGIC etc
2) EXAM PERFORMANCE = APPLYING RIGHT STRATEGY AND CHOOSING RIGHT QUESTIONS TO SOLVE.

believe me i lost out on CAT in first attempt only because of the second part above. the more u are good at choosing right questions, the less u depend on the first part above . if u take out any of ur previos mock paper and analyse whereu got ur score from, its mostly from SILLY ,DUMB QUESTIONS which u an solve anyday.
SO IT ALL COMES DOWN TO SELECTION OF RIGHT QUESTIONS. that means it can be practised only through MOCK EXAMS every week. SO ITS NOT ABT SITTING AT HOME AND LEARNING MORE NEW FUNDAS. (believe me i still donot know the properties of parallelogram fundae even after cracking CAT. )

All this post to tell u that CAT score doesnot really depend on the TIMESCALE. neverthless, i feel u can give up the job so that u can have more peace of mind ,doing ur preperation. but expect nothing more from the free time u are going to get. concentrate on mock cats and improve ur performance week by week. please keep these in mind and go ahead for CAT 2005!. ATB.:)

Hi estranged!!

Well frankly i am not experienced enough to advice you or suggest you the way out of your dilemma.... but there is one thing i will like to ask you.

You seem quite bent upon doing an MBA (that too from some top rung..... i do not know how many institutes come above MICA). If that was so why is it that you decided to have a work ex in a s/w company. What exactly is your work ex there??? Are you doing hardcore programming or coding there?? What i mean is it work ex only for the heck of it???

The reason i ask you this is not to be a bit sarcastic to ya but i am in a very similar position.
I will be graduating in 2005 & have been placed in Campus Interviews in a s/w company. I too have absolutely made up my mind of doing an MBA....two years hence, i.e. after 2 yrs of work ex (there is no bond as such for me). What i fail to understand is what sort of work ex am i gonna get in a s/w company (any s/w company for that matter)??

I have not decided in what stream i wanna pursue MBA in but what good will my experience come in IT come handy if i am to do my MBA in say, Marketing, Finance or HR (the hot three)??

I now feel this can be a completely diffrent thread but nevertheless i hope you can clear some of my doubts.

Help me guys S.O.S........

Hey ther estranged.. jus saw this one.. n if u still not decided.. wud bet my double experience in S/W than urs and also CAT.. ( veteran of 3 )... that mate u can still go on... Dont quit ur job... as S/W jobs can ne'er be a hurdle... U wud get loads of time b'lieve me and with 2 past tries.. all u need is as u said the finishing touches...!

U hava n impressive profile w.r.t to curricular.. and can leverage the increasing wrk experience contributin to ur profile.. n learning curve... !

see u arnd in the next yrs made it threads.. 😃

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dear frnd
i can try to understand ur dilemma
i had mine last yr when didnt made it and tried this yr again and goin to c,
i wld say dont keep a gap in ur prep its just u cldnt ur cool head in those 2 hrs and that is wht u have to work upon
i wld advice spend 1100 bucks
go for flts with ur job
analyze them and have a study grp
and appear for next yr cat
u never know
u dont loose much
few hrs of prep and 1100 bucks and maybe a few more
but i believe ur dreams r worth it
lokesh

Starting this thread as i need advice from the elders here as well as the risk takers.First let me put my profile ,
10th-79.6 (ICSE)
12th- 69.2(ISC)

B.Tech from NIT calicut EEE 2003 66.5%

Been workin for a software firm ,total exp 20 months as of today.

Extra Curri- Thats what i have been doing all my life.
state level badminton player.
member of india's first student quality circle and participated in ICQCC'95 at yokohama,japan.
have performed on AIR many times,have won awards in debates,skits,dramas etc etc.
was jr cult secy in college


gave CAT'2002 got 93 percentile with no prep.cleared MICA but did not join.
gave CAT '2004 with solid prep but had 2 worst hours and ended up with 89 percentile.

frankly,i dont like my software job.my heart is not into it.am waiting for my bond to expire in september.thats when the time comes to make a decision.with my work profile i can easily get a software job with better salary and location preference.
I am confused with these 2 options,
1>keep working and give cat'2005.not sure will be able to takeout time for CAT prep.
2>quit my job, give full time to CAT prep and writing a book(????..hehe) .
but catch is that will i be able to justify my break from a regular work ex to taking off so that i can write a book and prepare for CAT?? can i sell that or better say,will the institutes and panel buy it?
can the elders or other PGites tell me,have people with risk taking profiles cracked IIMs...or can contribute succes stories if they know any cases.
i do not have great acads,and am only interested in doing MBA in marketing, HR or advertising.cos there my heart lies...
please help guys..
Me.

well estranged...there's a misconception that did u in...MICA does not mean that u specialise in advertising...MICA has three specialisations...BRAND MANAGEMENT, MEDIA PLANNING, MARKETING RESEARCH...in fact if u do brand management the job profile u get would be the same as any other guy who's specialised in marketing from any top b-school...so its not about advertising only...infact this year there were only 5 ad agencies who visited MICA...the rest were proper co's...a lot of FMCG's comes there too...and as someone else said...u won't find too many b-schools in india that r better than MICA...would u?...i guess u rejected it 'coz it came really easily to u...there r a lot of guys who would kill for MICA...just 60 seats yaar...

but u must think positively...the sort of profile that u have...u should have no cause for worry...i can bet my bottom dollar that u would make it to the IIM's this year...wanna bet??

P.S. just read u'r most recent post addressed to kulkarni...truly inspiring man...i'm even more convinced now...gl!!


i was fresh out of college and had a job in hand(in 2003,the market wasnt so good),and thot if i can clear MICA with minimal prep i stand better chance in future with work - ex in my kitty.
also joining MICA would have meant specialisation in advertising.options were less i didnt wanted to constrict myself to just one field.also the pay packets are not that much high initially in advertising.
i had given minimum 4 hours daily to CAT prep between july - november.did all the BRMs,test series,sectional tests and analysis of my performance.was getting 98+ percentile quite consistently in SIMCATs...but it was just one bad day and psychologically was too much down to prepare for other tests.
( my XAT percentile was 94.6,no calls)
in CAT i misinterpreted one whole DI set and made it more complex.so lost time and negatives for 5 questions.many silly mistakes like that on that day in QA too.

so its all a matter of performing this year and leave no loop hole this time.fine tuning my strengths and working on my weaknesses.
thanks guys for ur encouragement and advice.

best of luck to u too for ur future endeavours.
shine on you crazy diamond..
Rohit.

well... to start wid, post#15 , estranged, was gr8


Lemme tell u my background b4 gettin into any gyaan session

I finished my BE (comps) from TSEC, mumbai univ, in june 2004

Joined a small marketing firm as a developer. Finished a certain module in 2 months , then got a chance to move into marketing of a certain s/w tool (same firm), i.e. into Business Development.

have been here since.

Gave CAT04, screwed up big time.. 86%.. not proper/serious prep i guess.

but got decent in XAT - 97% got call from XLRI, which i unfortunately could not convert.

so will be givin it again

As far as ur profile goes, u have 2 totally diff directions to opt for (as i see it)

First: Continue in the same profile:

U may change ur job at the end of ur bond, n as some ppl suggested, take a break from sept till nov end, makes sense.

Advantages are, u have a secure job. So evenif u fail to make it thru CAT, u have a secure backup

Disadvantages being, u r not following what u really want at heart..

(Me having a techie background, moved to marketing. seems attractive, but to be honest, i will still have to wait before saying whether it was a good decision, coz in this industry, being in a brand helps a lot, but it requires a good MBA or atlst 4 yrs of work-ex to be recognised)

Second: Follow ur heart:

Drop ur job (whenever ur bond ends), write ur book (pls update me on tht) , n study for CAT

BUT
, have a backup plan in place, if u dont succeed in CAT.

also, have good reasoning/storyline as to why have u taken a decision like this.

It will be helpful while facing the panel.

Also, takin the worst case scenario of not gettin thru, what wud u do after Feb, when the picture becomes clear.



Think about the points i have said above, once done wid tht, u can mail me/Pm me

ATB dude


P.S. : Dont get me wrong tht i have said at quite some places about not gettin thru.... this is not to discourage u ... but to look at the worst case scenario before taking any decsion in life
ciao

Thanks a lot Estranged!!

That was a real motivating mail you posted the other day. Got rid a few of my dilemmas. What you said of working in a group.... a sort of team work that is required in a company (especially a s/w one) is something that is needed to be experieced & something that cannot be seen, observed or studied anywhere else.

There is one more thing.

I have done my engg. (will be completing it in June'05) in Electronics. The s/w company that i have been recruited in is into a lot of things..... in the sense into Embedded,ERP,SAP... has various technologies on which it works .... Java, .NET (sorry i still am not quite familiar with the techie jargon so my be using some terms wrongly). I have yet not been alloted any specific field to work in. This will be decided after the initial training period of 2-3 months.

I being an electronics engg. i think i might have the luxury of being asked which field (or should i say technology) do i wish to go for. What i mean is being an Elex. engg. i can also consider myself to be suited to go into Embedded technology.

The problem is ..... will my choice on the technology that i work upon have some effect on the relevant work ex that i get out of the 1 1/2-2 year that i aim to spend with the company. Is it that going in for stuff such as SAP, ERP will prove to be more beneficial than going in for say Embedded??

What i can make out (i do not ofcourse know whether i am right or wrong) is that if at all anyone wishes to go up the (pecking) order in an IT organisation its no use trying in the same organisation or company.... i.e. one has to join some other company to go from being a programmer to a rung above ( i do not know which one that might be). So it is better to be on a technology base which is very widely required of many companies.....not being in a highly specialized field such as embedded.

What do you think??? Please guide me.

Hey Kulkarniy2k......which firm have you been recruited for......Sounds familiar...PM me...no issues.....Me too working with a s/w firm....which provides services and solutions o n the technologies you've mentioned.....



Thanks a lot Estranged!!

That was a real motivating mail you posted the other day. Got rid a few of my dilemmas. What you said of working in a group.... a sort of team work that is required in a company (especially a s/w one) is something that is needed to be experieced & something that cannot be seen, observed or studied anywhere else.

There is one more thing.

I have done my engg. (will be completing it in June'05) in Electronics. The s/w company that i have been recruited in is into a lot of things..... in the sense into Embedded,ERP,SAP... has various technologies on which it works .... Java, .NET (sorry i still am not quite familiar with the techie jargon so my be using some terms wrongly). I have yet not been alloted any specific field to work in. This will be decided after the initial training period of 2-3 months.

I being an electronics engg. i think i might have the luxury of being asked which field (or should i say technology) do i wish to go for. What i mean is being an Elex. engg. i can also consider myself to be suited to go into Embedded technology.

The problem is ..... will my choice on the technology that i work upon have some effect on the relevant work ex that i get out of the 1 1/2-2 year that i aim to spend with the company. Is it that going in for stuff such as SAP, ERP will prove to be more beneficial than going in for say Embedded??

What i can make out (i do not ofcourse know whether i am right or wrong) is that if at all anyone wishes to go up the (pecking) order in an IT organisation its no use trying in the same organisation or company.... i.e. one has to join some other company to go from being a programmer to a rung above ( i do not know which one that might be). So it is better to be on a technology base which is very widely required of many companies.....not being in a highly specialized field such as embedded.

What do you think??? Please guide me.

Hi pays,
I like Leading People, holding bigger responsibilities, and interested in people Administration.Yet, I don't have that much interest in Money managment.I have a good confidence in mass communication.Will HR be the right decision for me?. Being a HR will I be given better opportunities in interacting with groups of people?

Hi pays,
I like Leading People, holding bigger responsibilities, and interested in people Administration.Yet, I don't have that much interest in Money managment.I have a good confidence in mass communication.Will HR be the right decision for me?. Being a HR will I be given better opportunities in interacting with groups of people?

You just bumped a thread that's dud for 3 years now. How about posting here.

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