GMAT Sentence Correction Discussions

Yeah..OA is (B).

but.. i made a mistake while typing out the question. Option (B) must have "hospitalS".

In any case.. i was under the assumption that GMAT prefers the subjunctive... isn't "requires that" perfectly alright?

Can you plz tell me what's the difference between choices (B) & (E)? thanks a lot!

Originally Posted by *arch* View Post
1.The federal government requires hospitals to tell a Medicare patient of their legal right to challenge their discharge if they feel they are being sent home prematurely.
(A) hospitals to tell a Medicare patient of their
(B) hospitals to tell Medicare patients that they have a
(C) hospitals to tell Medicare patients that there is a
(D) that hospitals tell a Medicare patient of their
(E) that hospitals tell a Medicare patient that they have a
I found this one tricky.. plz provide explanation for this question. Thanks a lot.


Option E specifies a Medicare Patient which does not go with the pronoun they.Option B removes this problem.
Not sure about the "requires that" concept. Probably anyone else can help us here.

Hi Guys

Can someone please guide me on tenses, I feel thats where I am making the maximum number of wrong attempts.

I have gone through Manhattan SC and I have understood the Tenses as well, but somehow when it comes to question which involves tense , I am not able to analyze the sentence irrespective of whether the problem may or may not have a Grammatical mistake w.r.t tense.

Please help.

Thanks
Abhishek

My picks
1.E
2.C
3.E
4.D
5.B
6.D
7.D

Pls post OAs......

OAs are BCEDBDA..
Yeah..OA is (B).

but.. i made a mistake while typing out the question. Option (B) must have "hospitalS".

In any case.. i was under the assumption that GMAT prefers the subjunctive... isn't "requires that" perfectly alright?

Can you plz tell me what's the difference between choices (B) & (E)? thanks a lot!

Originally Posted by *arch* View Post
1.The federal government requires hospitals to tell a Medicare patient of their legal right to challenge their discharge if they feel they are being sent home prematurely.
(A) hospitals to tell a Medicare patient of their
(B) hospitals to tell Medicare patients that they have a
(C) hospitals to tell Medicare patients that there is a
(D) that hospitals tell a Medicare patient of their
(E) that hospitals tell a Medicare patient that they have a
I found this one tricky.. plz provide explanation for this question. Thanks a lot.

my 2 cents about 'require that'

the two forms which are cottect are 'Require X to Y' and 'Require that XY'

here's another one..i found this a bit confusing..

The Forbidden City in Beijing, from which the emperors ruled by heavenly
mandate, was a site which a commoner or foreigner could not enter without any
permission, on pain of death.


(A) which a commoner or foreigner could not enter without any permission,
(B) which a commoner or foreigner could enter without any permission only
(C) which no commoner or foreigner could enter without permission,
(D) which, without permission, neither commoner or foreigner could only enter,
(E) which, to enter without permission, neither commoner or foreigner could do,

here's another one..i found this a bit confusing..

The Forbidden City in Beijing, from which the emperors ruled by heavenly
mandate, was a site which a commoner or foreigner could not enter without any
permission, on pain of death.


(A) which a commoner or foreigner could not enter without any permission,
(B) which a commoner or foreigner could enter without any permission only
(C) which no commoner or foreigner could enter without permission,
(D) which, without permission, neither commoner or foreigner could only enter,
(E) which, to enter without permission, neither commoner or foreigner could do,


My take: B . A: awkward. C: Doesnt complete the sentence (Really trickky...I fell for it the first time). D: awkward, wordy. E: Wheres the window ?Am I right ?

The OA is (C)... :2gunfire:.. very tricky!

I chose (B) because it seems to convey the meaning very clearly....
can someone plz explain why (C) is better than (B)???

KingCat Says
My take: B . A: awkward. C: Doesnt complete the sentence (Really trickky...I fell for it the first time). D: awkward, wordy. E: Wheres the window ?Am I right ?
My picks
1.E
2.C
3.E
4.D
5.B
6.D
7.D

Pls post OAs......


1. E: Correct
A and D is wrong as they use "had existed" and we are not comparing two earlier events here
B: in is a wrong usage when referring to an age "WHEN" great ice sheets...
C: where there were: wordy

2. C: correct
have a gut feeling that the two closest choice could be D and C, D fails to be the right answer as
it uses to maintain and (to) continue with a missing to before continue.

3 .E Correct
A: Pronoun Agreement
B: Pronoun Agreement
C: awkward
D: Confusing whether The Single strain of plant ot the whole process is a practice followed by...

4. D Correct, Only D uses the verbs in the same tenses.

5.D
The only thing that goes with increasing, causing is threatening, so B, C and D is removed.
possibly takes a lead over perhaps and thus D is the right answer,

6. D
A: not only should go with but also, also is missing here
B: both ...also is redundant
C: would prove themselves ...wordy
E:they refers to what?

7. D Correct: as 'and set free' goes with stunned being parallel to each other.

These are completely my views. Any Corrections, if at all, are most welcome.
KingCat Says
My take: B . A: awkward. C: Doesnt complete the sentence (Really trickky...I fell for it the first time). D: awkward, wordy. E: Wheres the window ?Am I right ?


B cannot be right; as it doesnt convey the meaning the sentence intended to. B could make more sense if it is modified as "....could enter only with permissions".

Idiomatic and precise is "C"

Hi Guys,

Please help me with the below question:

Students in the early 1960s were taught that electrons orbit the nucleus of an atom and the path of this orbit was circular.

a) the path of this orbit was
b) the path of this orbit is
c) the path of this orbit has been
d) that the path of this orbit is
e) that the path of this orbit was

Thanks
KT

My pick would be B

'less' is better than 'lower' because we are using quantifiable numbers here...1 % is easily countable and thus we wouldnt use lower.
The tense and tone of the sentence makes amounted wrong. We are talking in present continous tense here in the sentence.

What is the OA?

my take is C.. increased pressure..... a decision taken in the past and its consequences are discussed..

*****
for the below..i wud go for C
Originally Posted by ashishjha100 View Post
Even though the direct costs of malpractice disputes amounts to a sum lower than one percent of the $541 billion the nation spent on health care last year, doctors say fear of lawsuits plays major role in health-care inflation.
(A) amounts to a sum lower
(B) amounts to less
(C) amounted to less
(D) amounted to lower
(E) amounted to a lower sum
Hi Guys,

Please help me with the below question:

Students in the early 1960s were taught that electrons orbit the nucleus of an atom and the path of this orbit was circular.

a) the path of this orbit was
b) the path of this orbit is
c) the path of this orbit has been
d) that the path of this orbit is
e) that the path of this orbit was

Thanks
KT


My take would be 'E'.
alchemist-mba Says
My take would be 'E'.


elaborate please
ktyagi10 Says
elaborate please


Students in the early 1960s were taught that electrons orbit the nucleus of an atom and the path of this orbit was circular.

The students are taught that the path of the orbit was circular.. so instead of 'the path'.. it should be 'that the path'. Having 'the path of this orbit was circular' - doesn't say whether the students were taught about the path.

So this leaves D and E as options.

Since the statement is made something that happened in past.. it should be 'was' as compared to 'is'.

Hence I reasoned that it should be 'E'.
Students in the early 1960s were taught that electrons orbit the nucleus of an atom and the path of this orbit was circular.

The students are taught that the path of the orbit was circular.. so instead of 'the path'.. it should be 'that the path'. Having 'the path of this orbit was circular' - doesn't say whether the students were taught about the path.

So this leaves D and E as options.

Since the statement is made something that happened in past.. it should be 'was' as compared to 'is'.

Hence I reasoned that it should be 'E'.


Hi alchemist

Thanks for your elaboration.

I believe that though the statement was made in past but it is about the fact which is still true in the present, so "is" should be there instead of "was". It narrows down my choices to 'B' & 'D'. I clicked 'B' but the right answer is 'D'.
What i couldn't get is :
According to my answer as 'B' the following is a subordinate clause.
that electrons orbit the nucleus of an atom and the path of this orbit was is circular
The above clause has 2 independent clauses electrons orbit the nucleus of an atom and he path of this orbit was is circular when conjunction 'and' is already there, then why do we need 'that' as it is there in Best answer 'D'.

Guys,
please help me in this particular case- where we can omit 'that ' and where we can't and in particular why can't here.

Any help is highly appreciated
Thanks
KT
Hi Guys,

Please help me with the below question:

Students in the early 1960s were taught that electrons orbit the nucleus of an atom and the path of this orbit was circular.

a) the path of this orbit was
b) the path of this orbit is
c) the path of this orbit has been
d) that the path of this orbit is
e) that the path of this orbit was

Thanks
KT

Hi alchemist

Thanks for your elaboration.

I believe that though the statement was made in past but it is about the fact which is still true in the present, so "is" should be there instead of "was". It narrows down my choices to 'B' & 'D'. I clicked 'B' but the right answer is 'D'.
What i couldn't get is :
According to my answer as 'B' the following is a subordinate clause.
that electrons orbit the nucleus of an atom and the path of this orbit was is circular
The above clause has 2 independent clauses electrons orbit the nucleus of an atom and he path of this orbit was is circular when conjunction 'and' is already there, then why do we need 'that' as it is there in Best answer 'D'.

Guys,
please help me in this particular case- where we can omit 'that ' and where we can't and in particular why can't here.
Any help is highly appreciated
Thanks
KT


The ans is indeed D
First a 3-2 split

Students in the early 1960s were taught X and Y.(X & Y should be parallel)
X--->that electrons orbit the nucleus of an atom
look at X---the tense is present ......so Y should start with 'that' and should be in present tense.
Y--->that the path of this orbit is circular.

Hope this helps.....criticisms are welcome:laugh:
The ans is indeed D
First a 3-2 split

Students in the early 1960s were taught X and Y.(X & Y should be parallel)
X--->that electrons orbit the nucleus of an atom
look at X---the tense is present ......so Y should start with 'that' and should be in present tense.
Y--->that the path of this orbit is circular.

Hope this helps.....criticisms are welcome:laugh:


I agree with you - Thanks a lot
The ans is indeed D
First a 3-2 split

Students in the early 1960s were taught X and Y.(X & Y should be parallel)
X--->that electrons orbit the nucleus of an atom
look at X---the tense is present ......so Y should start with 'that' and should be in present tense.
Y--->that the path of this orbit is circular.

Hope this helps.....criticisms are welcome:laugh:


Thanks Ashish, for your post.
1) if you don't mind please clarify what is 3-2 split.
2) why did u prefer it that way - " Students in the early 1960s were taught X and Y."
can't we break it like this - " Students in the early 1960s were taught that X and Y." now also X and Y can be parallel as in my previous post.

moreover, i was surfing the net.. i found something regarding "omitting that" which i think is worth sharing.

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The word that is used as a conjunction to connect a subordinate clause to a preceding verb. In this construction that is sometimes called the "expletive that." Indeed, the word is often omitted to good effect, but the very fact of easy omission causes some editors to take out the red pen and strike out the conjunction that wherever it appears. In the following sentences, we can happily omit the that (or keep it, depending on how the sentence sounds to us):

  1. Isabel knew she was about to be fired.
  2. She definitely felt her fellow employees hadn't supported her.
  3. I hope she doesn't blame me.

Sometimes omitting the that creates a break in the flow of a sentence, a break that can be adequately bridged with the use of a comma:

  1. The problem is, that production in her department has dropped.
  2. Remember, that we didn't have these problems before she started working here.

As a general rule, if the sentence feels just as good without the that, if no ambiguity results from its omission, if the sentence is more efficient or elegant without it, then we can safely omit the that. Theodore Bernstein lists three conditions in which we should maintain the conjunction that:

  1. When a time element intervenes between the verb and the clause: "The boss said yesterday that production in this department was down fifty percent." (Notice the position of "yesterday.")
  2. When the verb of the clause is long delayed: "Our annual report revealed that some losses sustained by this department in the third quarter of last year were worse than previously thought." (Notice the distance between the subject "losses" and its verb, "were.")
  3. When a second that can clear up who said or did what: "The CEO said that Isabel's department was slacking off and that production dropped precipitously in the fourth quarter." (Did the CEO say that production dropped or was the drop a result of what he said about Isabel's department? The second that makes the sentence clear.)

source: Conjunctions

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Thanks KT
The OA is (C)... :2gunfire:.. very tricky!

I chose (B) because it seems to convey the meaning very clearly....
can someone plz explain why (C) is better than (B)???


That is something !Are you sure that the OA is C ? Or did u miss some part of choice C ? I would have chosen C if there wasnt "on pain of death" If u choose C, it says that emperors ruled on pain of death. Thats not whats intended. THe sentence intends to say that if any person enters the city without permission, he is certain to die. THe choice C as it is doesnt convey that meaning, while B does. What say puys ?Further discussions welcome....
B cannot be right; as it doesnt convey the meaning the sentence intended to. B could make more sense if it is modified as "....could enter only with permissions".

Idiomatic and precise is "C"


How do you explain "on pain of death" if u choose C ? Can u pls explain ?I agree that B is not purrrrrfect...BUt doesnt B make more sense than C ?