Football Club -- Part Deux

well those of you who are talking about Koscielny's foul on Pedro in the box.. maybe u guys didn't notice, but it was a handball by Pedro in the first place.. so no chance of a penalty there..!!

yes i agree we were a lil lucky with that goal for Messi being disallowed but then who doesn't need a lil bit of luck on their side.. even Barca had their share of luck in the 2009 CL semifinal against Chelsea.. so, nobody should really crib about it..!!

And those who are adamant that Song should have been dealt a red card.. well, go and have a look at challenges by Gattuso and Flamini vs Spurs.. if those deserved only 1 yellow card.. i guess it was harsh for Song to get even 1 yellow, and you guys are talking bout 2..!!

Cheers.. the hangover of this win will last for quite some time...!!


dude i m a UTD fan.. but i expect Barca to go throw..

at half time score cud hav been 5-0.. so u r a lot lucky there..
at Nou Camp expect a battering from Barca..

sorry cant be more polite. bcz winning 2-1 in a CL home game is not gud and i s a disdvantage if u have followed UCL for sum years.. the away goal means Barca needs to win 1-0 to go through next stages..
plus barca havnt won an away game for quite sum time in knockout stages as goal.com reminds me..

my prediction for Nou Camp...3-1 in favour of Barca...
R u a Man utd fan or Real madrid fan..??..watch out for Mairo Goetze .. he is as gud as Ozil even mr than him he was at his age...

i wish SAF signs him in summer as he stated he wanted a player but party wasnt ready for it in jan..so i think he can be the mystery player considering Shinji Kagawa gt injured in asia cup and hes out for rest of season for Dortmund


No no no no...hell no...!!! me a Man-Utd fan..never dude...its is one of the teams tht i dont much like (pls no offense to any MU fan here-no groans plsss )
Actually i am not a fan of any EPL teams...!!

A Real Madrid Fan all my life...!!!

Ya heard of mairo goetze...dortmund player...very young...it is very early to put him in the class of mesut ozil...!!
Tht guy needs to be breeded by some good coach...SAF has a long history of finding some gr8 young players and turning them into true profesionals...!! He is the best in tht category...!!
No no no no...hell no...!!! me a Man-Utd fan..never dude...its is one of the teams tht i dont much like (pls no offense to any MU fan here-no groans plsss )
Actually i am not a fan of any EPL teams...!!

A Real Madrid Fan all my life...!!!

Ya heard of mairo goetze...dortmund player...very young...it is very early to put him in the class of mesut ozil...!!
Tht guy needs to be breeded by some good coach...SAF has a long history of finding some gr8 young players and turning them into true profesionals...!! He is the best in tht category...!!



yeah.. watch out for Paul Pogba n Ravel Morrison(he is way better than wilshere) in a cple of years... Utd policy of developing youth n then unleashing them at right time(Arsene Wenger is pretty bad in that..)
is phenomenal.. be it 92..

yeah u wudnt want to loose Pepe with contract talks stalled.. he is a big asset to ur defense at the moment with Carvalho..
rohan_b Says
With pique and Puyol out for the tie it ll be an interesting one...walcott and nasri made maxwell look very very mediocre yester. Barcelona are the much stronger team on paper but they do have weaknesses as well. If arsenal can stay injury free who knows wat could happen. Rubin Kazan and Hercules have beaten them at the nou camp in the last one year so not as if they are invincible. But one thing is certain its gonna be an even better match than this one irrespective of the result





If there is one place where Barcelona is weak...then it has to be the defense...!!! That too...both dani alves and maxwell march forward than they defend (play more of a winger role)...!!
Barca without pique and puyol will certainly lack the strength they have in defense...!!
Arsenal have to exploit in tht area-wenger again has a major role to play in here-to plan such strategies...!!

Camp Nou will be the place to watch after a couple of weeks time

Last year also they didnt have puyol and pique still they manage to win quiet comfortably infact comperhensively...i think their defensive ability will be less tested in nou camp where they will have 75% possession
dev30 Says
Last year also they didnt have puyol and pique still they manage to win quiet comfortably infact comperhensively...i think their defensive ability will be less tested in nou camp where they will have 75% possession


Last year only one or two of the startng 11 players played for arsenal...there was no cesc no rvp no gallas no verma infact there was sylvestre and song in defense ...barca should ve own by a lot more than 3 goals with that kinda bad defense
dev30 Says
Last year also they didnt have puyol and pique still they manage to win quiet comfortably infact comperhensively...i think their defensive ability will be less tested in nou camp where they will have 75% possession

rohan_b Says
Last year only one or two of the startng 11 players played for arsenal...there was no cesc no rvp no gallas no verma infact there was sylvestre and song in defense ...barca should ve own by a lot more than 3 goals with that kinda bad defense


Rohan bhai already answered ur query...but anyways some more words from my side

Firstly i put an "IF" clause in my post..!! Barca are somewat shaky in their defense part..!! esp. wid either of the right and left-backs (both brazillians-alves and maxwell-they love going upfront) :|
Well puyol has been a barca loyal all his life and he will live up to tht wen he plays for barca...i think he is the best in the world now in his position...!! Pique has emerged very handsomely in the last season...!! both are worldcup winners too..!!
Barcelona is a different team wid them and a different team without them..!!
They are too sturdy to defy...and score goals...!!
And as Rohan bhai said...last year Arsenal didnt have a gr8 starting line-up agianst barca owing to injury probs...hope they dont have to face tht prob now...!!

One thing i can assure u fellas...8th march 2011 at the Nou Camp-Barcelona vs Arsenal- a mouth watering clash...!!

but still Arsenal have a very tough task to do at nou camp...a draw will be perfect result, but whenever Arsenal go defensive they concede goals..that's the problem...but I won't mind barca winning with a score of 3-2 😁

Rohan bhai already answered ur query...but anyways some more words from my side

Firstly i put an "IF" clause in my post..!! Barca are somewat shaky in their defense part..!! esp. wid either of the right and left-backs (both brazillians-alves and maxwell-they love going upfront) :|
Well puyol has been a barca loyal all his life and he will live up to tht wen he plays for barca...i think he is the best in the world now in his position...!! Pique has emerged very handsomely in the last season...!! both are worldcup winners too..!!
Barcelona is a different team wid them and a different team without them..!!
They are too sturdy to defy...and score goals...!!
And as Rohan bhai said...last year Arsenal didnt have a gr8 starting line-up agianst barca owing to injury probs...hope they dont have to face tht prob now...!!

One thing i can assure u fellas...8th march 2011 at the Nou Camp-Barcelona vs Arsenal- a mouth watering clash...!!

Given... they will miss puyol pique in the second leg...but personally for me it wont be a huge miss to say someone like messi or xavi missing the leg....to say they are different team without them is grossly an overstatement:shocked:....i think gabi milito & abidal would be in the defence who are good player & would get into most sides in europe
As far as fullbacks are concern i like bombing fullbacks...they add another dimension to the game
No doubt arsenal would much stronger this time around but you never know with this barca team...i hope arsene wenger will do the right thing... i mean arsenal dont have to chase the game....the longer it will remain goalless better it would be for arsenal...just like jose did last year
Lastly i think arsenal fans were great second half...i think they lifted the arsenal team...i think when van persie scored that goal there was going to be one winner after that...arsenal would miss that 12th man in noucamp

3. Victor Valdes proved hes not a world class keeper as he is rarely tested..

You have to really question about his quality:splat:....Though a great shot stopper but i think he was responsible for the first goal.....goal keepers hate being beaten on thier near post:banghead::banghead::banghead:...but take nothing away from van persie that goal was:w00t:
yeah.. watch out for Paul Pogba n Ravel Morrison(he is way better than wilshere) in a cple of years... Utd policy of developing youth n then unleashing them at right time(Arsene Wenger is pretty bad in that..)
is phenomenal.. be it 92..

yeah u wudnt want to loose Pepe with contract talks stalled.. he is a big asset to ur defense at the moment with Carvalho..

Paul Pogba is a raw talent not yet tried and tested.Rave Morrison is way better than Wilshere...haha made my day..It's like new Messi or new Zidane.
Arsene Wenger is pretty bad in that
Kindly elucidate??
dev30 Says
You have to really question about his quality:splat:....Though a great shot stopper but i think he was responsible for the first goal.....goal keepers hate being beaten on thier near post:banghead::banghead::banghead:...but take nothing away from van persie that goal was:w00t:


The thing about the goal was there were arsenal players in the box and at the far post...the most likely thing that anyone would ve done was cross the ball...valdes must ve expecting that only if he would rushed out or something like that he wouldve left the goal exposed to bendtner at the far post. That is why he was in 2 minds and this led to the goal. In a way valdes was correct because hardly anyone has the skill to shoot like that and most people would cross. So it was not that bad a case of GK as everyone is making it out to be

any Man Utd fans

can u guess who was that mystery signing that failed in Jan as mentioned by SAF..

we wanted a player but the other party wasnt ready for it in Jan window..


cud it be
1.Alexis Sanchez
2. Charlie Adam
3. Mario Goetze
4. A. Young
5. Henderson
6. Rodwell(although i know he is Utd bound at sum time in his career)
7. F. Contreo(provided Evra leaves which is unlikely imo)
8. S. Kagawa(got injured in Asia cup)

ur pick n guess...??

Few Observations from Arsenal Barca match:

1. Barcelona's weakest link is their defence. Their attack and mid field might be the best but their defence is pretty average.
2. Best way to attack Barcelona is counter-attack.
3. Always defend deep agaisnt barcelona. Thats what Arsenal did wrong in their first half. Their defence line was too high. But they got their act together in the second half and went a bit deeper.

Ofcourse Barcelona still have an upper hand but Arsenal too have a better chance now. EPL teams are performing good. Tottenhem and Arsenal played well. Its safe to presume that Manu and Chelsea will win their fixtures too.

rohan_b Says
The thing about the goal was there were arsenal players in the box and at the far post...the most likely thing that anyone would ve done was cross the ball...valdes must ve expecting that only if he would rushed out or something like that he wouldve left the goal exposed to bendtner at the far post. That is why he was in 2 minds and this led to the goal. In a way valdes was correct because hardly anyone has the skill to shoot like that and most people would cross. So it was not that bad a case of GK as everyone is making it out to be


with that angle its a pretty difficult to score.. RVP shot was marvellous..
he is such a gud player just marred by injuries..what a shame..

n for the 2nd one he dint even moved..just lied back dwn on his goal..
he is as gud as Kuszzack Man Utd have..who is also a bit of nervous keeper..


look at De Gea. Neuer , Adler , VDS , Reinaand Stekenlburg n then think..he is as u wud say gud but not world class for a Barca team.. n dats a fact..

btw Pique is not gud in back tracking as he commits himself forward too at times..its Puyol who used to do that role effectively for Barca in case of a counter attack..

yes with Milito n Ebidal in defence they can make it into next round.

Arsenal will need a lot f luck to go throw to be honest.
Few Observations from Arsenal Barca match:

1. Barcelona's weakest link is their defence. Their attack and mid field might be the best but their defence is pretty average.
2. Best way to attack Barcelona is counter-attack.
3. Always defend deep agaisnt barcelona. Thats what Arsenal did wrong in their first half. Their defence line was too high. But they got their act together in the second half and went a bit deeper.

Ofcourse Barcelona still have an upper hand but Arsenal too have a better chance now. EPL teams are performing good. Tottenhem and Arsenal played well. Its safe to presume that Manu and Chelsea will win their fixtures too.


r u a man utd fan..??
plzz never write manu if u knw d history..

pool fans made a song of manu relating us to munich disaster so no true hardcore man utd fan like saying manu..

so writing manu is an insult to man utd fans..
Now I know how much you watch Arsenal and what you know about us.
Who is the reigning champion of the youth cup?
When did he replace Gallas with Squillaci?
Din't you watch Koscielny in Barca game,Chelsea game and even Utd. game?
Isn't Chesney and Fabianski very good this season??
Gibbs doesn't get opportunity like Rafael as you don't have any decent experienced RB.Gibbs is fit now and has started for England as well.So stop underrating him and his fitness.
Wenger played Fabregas at the cost of Vieria and look how how has he developed.So how is he so bad?
Ramsey was very decent last season before unfortunate leg break.
Man Utd. won youth cup in 2003,since then they are having barren patch.
dnt mind it watever 1 may say but Utd have better youth than Arsenal in over all terms f all positions covered up
I believe the reverse.
As far as Morrison and Pogba are concerned,let them make some mark in premier league before making them superstar. Till now,they are only good prospect.
Dude,I also know there is a way youth players are exposed and blooded. And whole world acknowledges and appreciates the way players are groomed at Arsenal.

P.S:- Please avoid SMSish language.


Are you blind or cant read properly..?
I said I rate Gibbs as gud as Rafael. and for me gibbs should be in your playing XI.

Scezzney has been good..why was he playing Almunia even after his blunders.??

all teams play two full backs isnt it..? wheres the 2nd Vermaleen. he is injured.

I would pick Mertsacker , Vidic , Rio , Shawcross , Cahill over Squillaci any day.
Arsenal should not have let Gallas go on free transfer...that was a mistake admit it or not.

Arsenal have Nasri, Fabregas and Wilshere but wheres the holding player or midfielder. to be honest Song is not the ans.
I rate Nasri n Wilshere really gud players. see i m not biased as you are.
have you seen Fabregas play in big games except lst one he goes missing in big games...why..??

I can even explain to you why Arsene Wenger doesnt buy a big player unless he sells.. despite Arsenal posing a 50+ million pretax profit.. do ask me if u want to know why.??


Do you know Arsenal reserves was hammered by Aston villa 10-1 in which Ciaran clark and Marc albrighton dint played last month.. with many youth regulars playing in it.?? Criag Eastmond notably was there.

whom did you beat Man utd in the final so to say you have the best and we have the worst is a lot childish.

now i will tell you 1 more fact Man utd under18 got beaten by Crewe 5-1
although we dominated the match...why..?? because neither King nor Will Keane our top two reserves under 18 strikers were playing..both were injured.

Tuniclliffe , Pogba n Morrison will be the trio just like in 92 who came and shook the world..

Sorry I am not out here to have a 1 on 1 go with you on this.. what you spoke told me what and how much you know about football and the two clubs..
Are you blind or cant read properly..?
I said I rate Gibbs as gud as Rafael. and for me gibbs should be in your playing XI.

Scezzney has been good..why was he playing Almunia even after his blunders.??

all teams play two full backs isnt it..? wheres the 2nd Vermaleen. he is injured.

I would pick Mertsacker , Vidic , Rio , Shawcross , Cahill over Squillaci any day.
Arsenal should not have let Gallas go on free transfer...that was a mistake admit it or not.

Arsenal have Nasri, Fabregas and Wilshere but wheres the holding player or midfielder. to be honest Song is not the ans.
I rate Nasri n Wilshere really gud players. see i m not biased as you are.
have you seen Fabregas play in big games except lst one he goes missing in big games...why..??

I can even explain to you why Arsene Wenger doesnt buy a big player unless he sells.. despite Arsenal posing a 50+ million pretax profit.. do ask me if u want to know why.??


Do you know Arsenal reserves was hammered by Aston villa 10-1 in which Ciaran clark and Marc albrighton dint played last month.. with many youth regulars playing in it.?? Criag Eastmond notably was there.

whom did you beat Man utd in the final so to say you have the best and we have the worst is a lot childish.

now i will tell you 1 more fact Man utd under18 got beaten by Crewe 5-1
although we dominated the match...why..?? because neither King nor Will Keane our top two reserves under 18 strikers were playing..both were injured.

Tuniclliffe , Pogba n Morrison will be the trio just like in 92 who came and shook the world..

Sorry I am not out here to have a 1 on 1 go with you on this.. what you spoke told me what and how much you know about football and the two clubs..

Mertesacker is too slow for PL and our high backline.I dont think you have seen him enough.
Where did I mention you have the worst youth players??
Do you know profit is being used for debt clearance?
Koscielny was purchased for Gallas and Squillaci for Slvestre.
You have zilch knowledge about us but you just can't stop ranting.
Most of our youth players are on loan(18 players). And in 10 -1 defeat,youth players like Coquelin,Ramsey,Wilshere,Traore,Watt,Lansbury were not playing and Villa had regular team players like Delfounso,Gardner etc.
all teams play two full backs isnt it..? wheres the 2nd Vermaleen. he is injured.
I seriously can't comprehend this.
Our Fullbacks are Clichy,Sagna,Eboue,Gibbs,Cruz.
who was 1st Vermaleen??
Cut the crap.No point in arguing with a typical muddlehead .Carry on wankfest.
Sorry I am not out here to have a 1 on 1 go with you on this.. what you spoke told me what and how much you know about football and the two clubs.
Hilarious to say the least.

P.S:-The quality of this thread and its discussion has gone down significantly.
Mertesacker is too slow for PL and our high backline.I dont think you have seen him enough.
Where did I mention you have the worst youth players??
Do you know profit is being used for debt clearance?
Koscielny was purchased for Gallas and Squillaci for Slvestre.
You have zilch knowledge about us but you just can't stop ranting.
Most of our youth players are on loan(18 players). And in 10 -1 defeat,youth players like Coquelin,Ramsey,Wilshere,Traore,Watt,Lansbury were not playing and Villa had regular team players like Delfounso,Gardner etc.
all teams play two full backs isnt it..? wheres the 2nd Vermaleen. he is injured.
I seriously can't comprehend this.
Our Fullbacks are Clichy,Sagna,Eboue,Gibbs,Cruz.
who was 1st Vermaleen??
Cut the crap.No point in arguing with a typical muddlehead .Carry on wankfest.
Sorry I am not out here to have a 1 on 1 go with you on this.. what you spoke told me what and how much you know about football and the two clubs.
Hilarious to say the least.

P.S:-The quality of this thread and its discussion has gone down significantly.

Lets live in peace rather than in pieces.
i never wanted to offend you or the club you support most.

btw after tax n debt u still make a decent 30 million profit but the issue is that most Arsenal fans dont know that their owner take 20-25 million dividends each fiscal year which they are entitled to.
that what makes things difficult for Wenger in the market.

come 2012 u will be in a better position than chelsea and Man city due to Financial Fair Play rules coming in. it would be good for Man utd and Arsenal in the Transfer market.
plus the current highly inflated market would become stable and normal.

definitely agree Koscielny had a gud game against Barca except for the penalty which i think should have been there.

Arsenal can grow stronger if Fabregas stays for a long period and Barca doesnt poach him to return.

but to be fair Barca is still the better of the two.
to be honest and unbiased better tha Man Utd n Real Madrid too at the moment.

Mourinho's 9-year winning streak...Quite a gr8 achievement for a manager
Real Madrid Coach Jose Mourinho Celebrates Nine Years Since Last Home League Defeat - Goal.com

Pato-Ramos Swap....!!!!!!! :shocked::shocked:
Milan To Use Alexandre Pato To Lure Real Madrid's Sergio Ramos To San Siro - Report - Goal.com

Noooooo...That wud rue Real Madrid defence...!!! we already are not gr8 in defence...and selling ramos wud surely add to the worse...!!

Mourinho's 9-year winning streak...Quite a gr8 achievement for a manager
Real Madrid Coach Jose Mourinho Celebrates Nine Years Since Last Home League Defeat - Goal.com

Pato-Ramos Swap....!!!!!!! :shocked::shocked:
Milan To Use Alexandre Pato To Lure Real Madrid's Sergio Ramos To San Siro - Report - Goal.com

Noooooo...That wud rue Real Madrid defence...!!! we already are not gr8 in defence...and selling ramos wud surely add to the worse...!!


1st of all goal.com n caughtoffside.com come up with some shit transfer stories to be honest. the latter one is the most dumb rumour site.
most reliable is talksport.com. follow it if u want a little reliable transfer rumours source.

2nd Ramos is average in defending but he is very good in attacking which makes up for it..
its Marcelo who lacks defending n positioning awareness at times which can be costly at times.

3rd Pato if and if ever leaves AC Milan he is chelsea bound considering his closeness to Carlo Ancelotti(he has a soft corner for him too..)