the catch is : as long as xavi plays like this, messi will hit 40+ goals each year (he is more than capable of doing it without xavi, mind it; but with xavi it becomes easier 😃 ) and will be a more preferred contender for ballon d'or, over xavi.
Yes and the only time he can win is this time as Messi's team failed at the world cup and Xavi helped Spain win it.Xavi needs to wait till 2012 European championship or 2014 World cup again and hope that Spain wins and Argentina doesn't.
Yes and the only time he can win is this time as Messi's team failed at the world cup and Xavi helped Spain win it.Xavi needs to wait till 2012 European championship or 2014 World cup again and hope that Spain wins and Argentina doesn't.
supporting them from 1990, 6 world cups went by
Heard Ramos had a horror tackle on Messi. How bad was that ?
these are the type of fanboy comments expected after these matches .... so Messi is the real king, ehh?
I wonder why the real king vanishes when he's outside camp nou. Examples : manchester utd.(2007), chelsea(200, inter(2009) on the European front. I hope those are "big" matches according to you. And even in the world cup,whatever be his number of attempts on goal, he didn't score a single one.
I absolutely adore messi for his footballing skills, but to call CR7 a whatever, and to say he scores only against real zaragoza is completely outrageous. I don't think you watched football in his manchester days.
BTW, shocking result for mou. This must be the worst defeat in his career.
dude that has happened a few times not like ronaldo(who who eats shit in almost every big game.) i watch BPL week in week out. though messi didnt score a goal in WC,he was still 1 of the best players unlike CR7.1 more thing messi plays the same 4 argentina,CR7 is very imp to potugal but he hasnt transformed his club form for country. and 1 more imp thing is every derfender knows what messi is gonna do(take the ball to his preferred left foot,run past them and score a textbook finish) bt still they cant stop him.
and common stop maoning about argentina's early WC exit.MARADONA was their coach.give them a good coach and then you'll see the result.maradona dropped the likes of zenetti,cambiasso....how on earth som1 can do that.In my opinion they are 1 of the best in their respective positions(except zenetti....as you know he can play anywhere). and i am a LIVERPOOL supporter.i dont support barca.
dude that has happened a few times not like ronaldo(who who eats shit in almost every big game.) i watch BPL week in week out. though messi didnt score a goal in WC,he was still 1 of the best players unlike CR7.1 more thing messi plays the same 4 argentina,CR7 is very imp to potugal but he hasnt transformed his club form for country. and 1 more imp thing is every derfender knows what messi is gonna do(take the ball to his preferred left foot,run past them and score a textbook finish) bt still they cant stop him.
I agree bro. that Messi is great player but how could one say that Ronaldo is not..... Ronaldo is also a great talent with good brain. He just raised the standard everytime he plays with his dribbles and accurate passing. Ronaldo has proved himself for Manchester,Real madrid and also Portugal....But Messi lags behind when compare him outside barca..... But still Hatsoff to Messi:cheers: By the way I love Barca
I agree bro. that Messi is great player but how could one say that Ronaldo is not..... Ronaldo is also a great talent with good brain. He just raised the standard everytime he plays with his dribbles and accurate passing. Ronaldo has proved himself for Manchester,Real madrid and also Portugal....But Messi lags behind when compare him outside barca..... But still Hatsoff to Messi:cheers: By the way I love Barca
agreed that ronaldo is good.bt messi is better.and ronaldo hasnt proved himself at the international level. both are good bt 4 me messi is better than CR7. and ya kaka is good bt not even close to either CR7 or messi.these 2 players are on different planets when it comes to football.:cheers:
agreed that ronaldo is good.bt messi is better.and ronaldo hasnt proved himself at the international level. both are good bt 4 me messi is better than CR7. and ya kaka is good bt not even close to either CR7 or messi.these 2 players are on different planets when it comes to football.:cheers:
dude that has happened a few times not like ronaldo(who who eats shit in almost every big game.) i watch BPL week in week out. though messi didnt score a goal in WC,he was still 1 of the best players unlike CR7.1 more thing messi plays the same 4 argentina,CR7 is very imp to potugal but he hasnt transformed his club form for country. and 1 more imp thing is every derfender knows what messi is gonna do(take the ball to his preferred left foot,run past them and score a textbook finish) bt still they cant stop him.
this comment sums up your attitude. If it's blind hatred, nobody can argue with you. :)
You should have posted this earlier. Wouldn't have posted the earlier comments in that case.
agreed that ronaldo is good.bt messi is better.and ronaldo hasnt proved himself at the international level. both are good bt 4 me messi is better than CR7. and ya kaka is good bt not even close to either CR7 or messi.these 2 players are on different planets when it comes to football.:cheers:
oh my my... i just return to forums after 4 months and i encounter :
BTW, as far as international football is concerned check records, messi is apparently even booed by argentine football supporters for not performing at national level and he remains a big dud if you count is club form and international form
Also i have not seen people noticing, but wasnt in barca players mocking after scoring 5 goals by raising their hands and pointing everywhere, i guess it left bad taste in the mouth of their spanish team-mates casissas and ramos which was most evident after his tackle with messi and apparent scuffle with xavi and puyol (both spanish team-mates), just that media glorifies all thing but such attitue leaves a bad taste after a wonder performance by barca, not that ramos was right in his actions but still that actions could have been avoided, i never see such scenes in any other league. that was downright kiddish from barca and more kiddish from ramos afterwards.
BTW, i dont give a damn about madrid (if my post makes you belive so) or barca. I am a RED for life.
FACTS for people who say things without knowing the big picture.
Kaka has won the world cup and Champions League both.He was injured most the last year but anyone who has seen kaka play will say in form he is one of the best.
Ronaldo is again a very good player.The fact that he came to Madrid from ManU and started scoring freely shows that he has no problem adapting to different teams and Leagues.For Portugal he was really disappointing this time but see his performance in Euro2008 and Worldcup2006 and you cannot say the same.Infact he was the part of Portugal team that reached the finals of Euro 2004.
Coming to Messi , he is at the moment probably the best footballer on form.But can he reproduce the same form playing for Argentina.We haven't seen that.But he is young and has to lot of time to win playing for Argentina.Last year Messi won the world footballer of the year but the Argentina people voted "Del Potro"(US open 2009 winner) as the best athlete from Argentina.Why ? Because Messi might be the best but he didnt do anything for Argentina.
For Messi to become the best ever and in the leagues of Pele,Maradona's,Zidane's and Ronaldo's ( Brazilian) he has to win the world cup as well and show the same form which he shows are Barca which is not impossible considering his age.
Comparing players and labeling someone as good or bad is a very subjective thing.You can only say if someone is best after he finishes his career and not in the middle of it.Kaka,Ronaldo and Messi are still playing and based on the list of achievements Kaka leads both Ronaldo and Messi at the moment because he is a world cup winner as well.
Barca 5-0 win over real proves that they r the best side in europe...they have thrashed the side which has arugubaly the best coach in jose & best player in form of ronaldo...it just proved what a great coach pep gaurdiola is!...even SAF took 13 years to win his first european title & this guy has won every possible trophy in his first season...you can say that he has the best players but so do Real
this comment sums up your attitude. If it's blind hatred, nobody can argue with you. :)
You should have posted this earlier. Wouldn't have posted the earlier comments in that case.
hahahaha.lol i said ronaldo is good.bt 4 me messi is better.i thnk you didnt read my last post.they are the 2 best players(currently).bt its a fact that ronaldo underperforms in big games.hope you get that.
FACTS for people who say things without knowing the big picture.
Kaka has won the world cup and Champions League both.He was injured most the last year but anyone who has seen kaka play will say in form he is one of the best.
Ronaldo is again a very good player.The fact that he came to Madrid from ManU and started scoring freely shows that he has no problem adapting to different teams and Leagues.For Portugal he was really disappointing this time but see his performance in Euro2008 and Worldcup2006 and you cannot say the same.Infact he was the part of Portugal team that reached the finals of Euro 2004.
Coming to Messi , he is at the moment probably the best footballer on form.But can he reproduce the same form playing for Argentina.We haven't seen that.But he is young and has to lot of time to win playing for Argentina.Last year Messi won the world footballer of the year but the Argentina people voted "Del Potro"(US open 2009 winner) as the best athlete from Argentina.Why ? Because Messi might be the best but he didnt do anything for Argentina.
For Messi to become the best ever and in the leagues of Pele,Maradona's,Zidane's and Ronaldo's ( Brazilian) he has to win the world cup as well and show the same form which he shows are Barca which is not impossible considering his age.
Comparing players and labeling someone as good or bad is a very subjective thing.You can only say if someone is best after he finishes his career and not in the middle of it.Kaka,Ronaldo and Messi are still playing and based on the list of achievements Kaka leads both Ronaldo and Messi at the moment because he is a world cup winner as well.
just winning the world cup or reaching the euro finals doesnt make a player good.if i go by what you are saying then djimy traore(once a liverpool player)has a champions league medal(which ronaldo doesnt have)doesnt make him a good LB. and about messi i said in my last post that he didnt score a goal bt still he was one of the better performers of the last WC. and argentine people voted for del potro because he won the US open and no other argentinian has done that on hard court(vilas won it,but on clay). kaka is good bt ronaldo and messi are ahead of him by quite a margin. the likes of ibrahimovic,drogba havent won world cup bt still they are 1 of the best strikers. its about performance and not silverware(*read* lampard,gerrard,terry,rooney.....).
oh my my... i just return to forums after 4 months and i encounter :
BTW, as far as international football is concerned check records, messi is apparently even booed by argentine football supporters for not performing at national level and he remains a big dud if you count is club form and international form
Also i have not seen people noticing, but wasnt in barca players mocking after scoring 5 goals by raising their hands and pointing everywhere, i guess it left bad taste in the mouth of their spanish team-mates casissas and ramos which was most evident after his tackle with messi and apparent scuffle with xavi and puyol (both spanish team-mates), just that media glorifies all thing but such attitue leaves a bad taste after a wonder performance by barca, not that ramos was right in his actions but still that actions could have been avoided, i never see such scenes in any other league. that was downright kiddish from barca and more kiddish from ramos afterwards.
BTW, i dont give a damn about madrid (if my post makes you belive so) or barca. I am a RED for life.
Cheers
lol newbie:wow:.me 2 a RED(LIVERPOOL wala) i think pique did that(raised his hand suggesting 5 goals).
i think it was ans to ronaldo's comments after barca scored 6 against racing santander(i guess).bt still wasnt sporting at all.
oh my my... i just return to forums after 4 months and i encounter :
BTW, as far as international football is concerned check records, messi is apparently even booed by argentine football supporters for not performing at national level and he remains a big dud if you count is club form and international form
Also i have not seen people noticing, but wasnt in barca players mocking after scoring 5 goals by raising their hands and pointing everywhere, i guess it left bad taste in the mouth of their spanish team-mates casissas and ramos which was most evident after his tackle with messi and apparent scuffle with xavi and puyol (both spanish team-mates), just that media glorifies all thing but such attitue leaves a bad taste after a wonder performance by barca, not that ramos was right in his actions but still that actions could have been avoided, i never see such scenes in any other league. that was downright kiddish from barca and more kiddish from ramos afterwards.
BTW, i dont give a damn about madrid (if my post makes you belive so) or barca. I am a RED for life.
Cheers
Its so heart warming to see a fellow Red FANatic back at PG. \m/
FACTS for people who say things without knowing the big picture.
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Ronaldo is again a very good player......For Portugal he was really disappointing this time but see his performance in Euro2008 and Worldcup2006 and you cannot say the same.Infact he was the part of Portugal team that reached the finals of Euro 2004.
Really??? :wow:
For Messi to become the best ever and in the leagues of Pele,Maradona's,Zidane's and Ronaldo's ( Brazilian) he has to win the world cup as well and show the same form which he shows are Barca which is not impossible considering his age.
Did you mean De-stefano, Puskas, Socrates, George Best, Eusebio, Stanley Mathuse, Cryueff etc never belonged to this league just because they never won a WC? May be..
just winning the world cup or reaching the euro finals doesnt make a player good.if i go by what you are saying then djimy traore(once a liverpool player)has a champions league medal(which ronaldo doesnt have)doesnt make him a good LB. and about messi i said in my last post that he didnt score a goal bt still he was one of the better performers of the last WC. and argentine people voted for del potro because he won the US open and no other argentinian has done that on hard court(vilas won it,but on clay). kaka is good bt ronaldo and messi are ahead of him by quite a margin. the likes of ibrahimovic,drogba havent won world cup bt still they are 1 of the best strikers. its about performance and not silverware(*read* lampard,gerrard,terry,rooney.....).
Ronaldo doesnt have a champions league medal:wow:.When did you start watching football from ?