Football Club -- Part Deux

oops !! double post

I agree with you regarding ramsey. Ramsey=Younger Cesc in the way he plays.

I disagree completely, Barca dont need Cesc, right now, he may not even start every match.
But they do need Sanchez and Rossi. With Bojan leaving they need another striker,
and in Sanchez they have a better alternative to Pedro. Sanchez would start ahead of Pedro


Whose gonna cover for an injured Xavi at 31..? I m sure u cnt expect him to play evrey game and with Iniesta also injury prone.. He will get 15-20 starts plus subs 10-15 apperances.. They need Rossi more if they are selling Bojan..!! Sanchez is a RW and a Support striker.. Sanchez will rotate with Villa and Pedro not a sure shot XI starter..

Will u want to throw a player coming from diff league straight on playing XI from game 1.. No manager will do that.. He Will get games gradually more n more..!!

If you are saying Nani is 1.5 times the player Sanchez, then i guess there is no point arguing, except that sanchez will be starter for Barca next season, and as Nani is 1.5 times Sanchez then it means he too could start for Barca...which ofcource is not possible.
If you really want to compare these two players ask any non-ManU fan, who would he take among these two players.


Are mere bhai i said on current level Nani is ahead of Sanchez but Nani has reached his peak as for me but Sanchez hasnt..!!he ahs more potential than Nani Plus Sanchez has better attitude than Nani who at time becomes selfish.. Pura to pado karo bhai..!! Watch Italian league its really shit n slow compared to EPL.. ASk any football fan he will say that u cnt compare goals n assists stats of two players in Italian league and EPL and Nani has more asissts and goals than Sanchez in almost equal no. of matches

The most closest league to EPL in terms of Physical nature of game is Bundesliga


Which McEacheran are you talking about??
Chelsea's 17 yr old McEacheran??
who is at Chelsea from age of 9.
and when did ManU missed out on him??
I think he was never available.

I would like to add one more think, if that Ryan 'thug' Shawcross had not broken Ramsey's leg, Wilshere would never have crossed Ramsey in the pecking list. Wilshere is a big talent, Ramsey is even bigger, you will see this in coming seasons, and both are a lot better than McEacheran, who is yet to break in England U21's.


I dnt knw if McEacheran joined at he age of 9..!! i m sure he was more than 9 when he joined Chelsea but he did came to Man Utd on kinda trials and we were reluctant to get him into academy as there were already many youth players in the academy who we thought will make the cut if they progress well.!! plus theres a limit to no. of Youth Players u can have in ur academy

We were his first choice to be honest but then Chelsea came and offered him a position in their academy as youth dev and he accepted..!!

Wilshere wasnt a Man Utd fan wen a kid but McEacheran was and he came to Man Utd first and i knw that for sure.. thats why i said we missed out on him..!!
Fabreagas does play a more attacking role like Iniesta but eventually he will become a a complete CM alike Xavi..!! I can see him emulating Xavi and Thiago replacing Iniesta in future..

Or perhaps when Iniesta gets into 30s he may take over Xavi's role of possession football and a more playmakers role int he middle and Fab to play more attacking role making runs up n down the pitch as a connecting link bw Messi/Villa and Iniesta so if u ask me Barca need Fabreags more than Sanchez..!!

ashish13dec is rite on the mark..!!


Agree with you on this part. Could very much be possible. Barca actually don't have a lot of squad depth if you ask me. IMO, both Cesc and Sanchez are essential. Sanchez/Rossi more so, as Villa/Messi/Pedro are the only options upfront with jeffren rumoured to be loaned/sold. Also, the way Villa and Pedro played last two months was a worrying factor, as Messi was the only source of goals then. The youth is pretty good, but you can't rely on them to play week in week out. They'll need time to step up.
http://http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-Features/Football-News/2011/Jun/ashley-young-joins-manchester-united.aspx

I m loving it..!! Most Man Utd fans wont but i think its a good addition to squad.. Rem Valencia when at Wigan and nw at Man Utd.. I think that will be the case with Young too plus he offers sumthing different like good set pieces plus nice crosses from left.. Though he is right footed but can play very well on left wing too..

It will help Utd's away games form a lot if we cud get few goals from set pieces and Free kicks..!!

In a gud team with better players he looks twice the player at Villa i.e at Eng national team..!!

P.S. Jones + Young at 30 M or Andy Carroll for 35 M..? SAF is a genius when it comes to spending each n evry penny..!!
If Alexis Sanchez Joins Barcelona, Real Madrid Will Not Win Anything Next Year - Udinese's Giampaolo Pozzo - Goal.com

Pozzo is a real idiotic muppet..!! Now he says Sanchez is worth 50 M Euros..!! He will keep dragging it whole summer..!!

Why i m saying all this bcz we all knew Chelsea interest was firm in Jan transfer window and samra 1 wnt like to hear it but i have inside info from an Editor Chelsea reps had meeting with Sanchez reps in Monaco and personal terms and ervything was finalised and then came Pozzo saying loan him back to us for 1.5 season too..!! that ended the Chelsea interest n discussion dere itself..!!

Barca wnt pay 50 M Euros for him..!!

P.S. He is a real pain in neck to deal with and so are Udinese..!!
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Read this certainly looks a gud team with lot of world class players..!!

So Barca has made an offer of 27m for Fabregas,
Its defamatory, ain't it?

So Barca has made an offer of 27m for Fabregas,
Its defamatory, ain't it?


To me it is humiliating considering Fabregas' ability..!! 27 M + Thiago mite have been a lot better and maybe tempting too..!!

Maybe a 35 M mite clinch the deal as Arsenal are only asking for 45 M..

Actually why shud they when the player wants to leave but isnt forcing a hand but still he is only barca bound in future so even if they dnt get him this summer he is like a Barca's FD in Arsenal's locker..!!

Sanchez deal still hangs on as Barca wud like to get Fabregas 1st nw as Pozzo is asking for a ridiculous sum for Sanchez and Jeffren isnt interested in moving to Udinese..!!

Pozzo says Fab is 40 M den Sanchez is worth 50 M.. Do u think so that Sanchez is worth more than Fabregas in transfer market forget abt being Barca bound etc..!!

P.S. will u pay 40 M for Sanchez..?? I wnt I would say to Pozzo 28 M is max i m gving u take it or leave it or go to hell..!! He is auctioning a player like a commodity..If Sanchez wants a move i guess he will have to hand in a transfer request to get Pozzo's asking price down a bit..
To me it is humiliating considering Fabregas' ability..!! 27 M + Thiago mite have been a lot better and maybe tempting too..!!

Maybe a 35 M mite clinch the deal as Arsenal are only asking for 45 M..

Actually why shud they when the player wants to leave but isnt forcing a hand but still he is only barca bound in future so even if they dnt get him this summer he is like a Barca's FD in Arsenal's locker..!!

Sanchez deal still hangs on as Barca wud like to get Fabregas 1st nw as Pozzo is asking for a ridiculous sum for Sanchez and Jeffren isnt interested in moving to Udinese..!!

Pozzo says Fab is 40 M den Sanchez is worth 50 M.. Do u think so that Sanchez is worth more than Fabregas in transfer market forget abt being Barca bound etc..!!

P.S. will u pay 40 M for Sanchez..?? I wnt I would say to Pozzo 28 M is max i m gving u take it or leave it or go to hell..!! He is auctioning a player like a commodity..If Sanchez wants a move i guess he will have to hand in a transfer request to get Pozzo's asking price down a bit..


If we put Fabregas for sale, i bet we could fetch 60m+ for him. He is that good. He is captain of one of the biggest club in World, X, is usually among top 1-3 in assists list of EPL, scores a lot of goals, how could his market value be less than 40m. Thats ridiculous really.
Barca is using his love for Catalonia as a bait for negotiation with arsenal, and that is the only reason they want to buy him. IMO, they dont need him coz, though Xavi is getting older but i dont think he will start regressing until next few years. This is based on assumption that Players who rely on technical ability tend to have long careers than those who rely more on Physical attributes like Pace, Acceleration, agility etc.
This is the Same Barca which paid 60m for Ibra and 35m for Villa are now offering 27m for Fabregas. I think this is disrespecting for any team.

And onto Sanchez, he is not a 50m player, could fetch 30-35m, but never more than Fabregas.
If we put Fabregas for sale, i bet we could fetch 60m+ for him. He is that good. He is captain of one of the biggest club in World, X, is usually among top 1-3 in assists list of EPL, scores a lot of goals, how could his market value be less than 40m. Thats ridiculous really.
Barca is using his love for Catalonia as a bait for negotiation with arsenal, and that is the only reason they want to buy him. IMO, they dont need him coz, though Xavi is getting older but i dont think he will start regressing until next few years. This is based on assumption that Players who rely on technical ability tend to have long careers than those who rely more on Physical attributes like Pace, Acceleration, agility etc.
This is the Same Barca which paid 60m for Ibra and 35m for Villa are now offering 27m for Fabregas. I think this is disrespecting for any team.

And onto Sanchez, he is not a 50m player, could fetch 30-35m, but never more than Fabregas.




60+ M..!! nope..!! Nt even Merceneries wud pay that for him..!! Well no offence thats Arsenal n its fans valuation so nothing wrongs in it..!! He is not that gud ask few Gunners fans here too.. He is injury prone + goes missing in big games thats a big big negative..!!

Why nt play players who want to play for ur club who has passion n luv for the Gunners..!! Fabregas lacks it at times..!!



---------------------Scezzney/ Steklenberg

---Sagna------Samba/Koschielny------Vermaelen/Djourou-----Baines/Enrique

------------Wilshere/Ramsey----------Parker or Barton/Song

-------------------------Nasri/Willian

---Gervinho/Alvarez----------------------------Arshavin/Walcott

----------------------RvP/Chamakh


Hw abut this team next season considering if Arsenal lose Fabregas..??
Looks good to me..even if they get 35-40 M for Fabregas + 6-8 M for Clichy + 8 M for Bendtner + 8 M for Denilson

Money in= 60-65 M

Players in= Gervinho , Alvarez , Samba , Baines , Parker/Barton , Willian and Steklenberg = 60-70 M well spent

P.S. I like the above team..!! ur opinions Gunners..??
60+ M..!! nope..!! Nt even Merceneries wud pay that for him..!! Well no offence thats Arsenal n its fans valuation so nothing wrongs in it..!! He is not that gud ask few Gunners fans here too.. He is injury prone + goes missing in big games thats a big big negative..!!

Why nt play players who want to play for ur club who has passion n luv for the Gunners..!! Fabregas lacks it at times..!!



---------------------Scezzney/ Steklenberg

---Sagna------Samba/Koschielny------Vermaelen/Djourou-----Baines/Enrique

------------Wilshere/Ramsey----------Parker or Barton/Song

-------------------------Nasri/Willian

---Gervinho/Alvarez----------------------------Arshavin/Walcott

----------------------RvP/Chamakh


Hw abut this team next season considering if Arsenal lose Fabregas..??
Looks good to me..even if they get 35-40 M for Fabregas + 6-8 M for Clichy + 8 M for Bendtner + 8 M for Denilson

Money in= 60-65 M

Players in= Gervinho , Alvarez , Samba , Baines , Parker/Barton , Willian and Steklenberg = 60-70 M well spent

P.S. I like the above team..!! ur opinions Gunners..??

Cesc is certainly not worth 60 million but no less than 40 also. Most of the team right now need a player like Cesc e.g. Chelsea,Utd.,AC Milan,Juventus,Barcelona(as backup mainly) and Man City as always. Had it been open auction he would have easily fetched us 50+. I don't agree with the point that he goes missing in big games. He was very good against Milans, against Barcelona(home),Chelsea(home and away this season). Nevertheless, his boot is too big to fill for Arsene. Nasri is not half Cesc in middle, his best has come for us in right wing.
heard that Everton has rejected Jagielka bid from one of the big teams. So it has to be City or us. I would love to Phil in Arsenal as he is far better than Cahill. For me ideal squad is:-
Sagna--Jagielka/Koscielny--Djourou/Samba--Enrique/Vermalean
Ramsey/Sisokkho--Wilshere/Ramsey--Song/Matuidi
Nasri/Theo--RVP/Chamakh--Alvarez/Gervinho
Out:-Denilson(for anything),Squillaci(for anything),Bendtner(10+),Fabregas(40+),Clichy(8+)
I am gutted to see Lansbury not been given opportunity at Arsenal. In all u-21 games that I saw, he was better than henderson.
60+ M..!! nope..!! Nt even Merceneries wud pay that for him..!! Well no offence thats Arsenal n its fans valuation so nothing wrongs in it..!! He is not that gud ask few Gunners fans here too.. He is injury prone + goes missing in big games thats a big big negative..!!

Why nt play players who want to play for ur club who has passion n luv for the Gunners..!! Fabregas lacks it at times..!!



---------------------Scezzney/ Steklenberg

---Sagna------Samba/Koschielny------Vermaelen/Djourou-----Baines/Enrique

------------Wilshere/Ramsey----------Parker or Barton/Song

-------------------------Nasri/Willian

---Gervinho/Alvarez----------------------------Arshavin/Walcott

----------------------RvP/Chamakh


Hw abut this team next season considering if Arsenal lose Fabregas..??
Looks good to me..even if they get 35-40 M for Fabregas + 6-8 M for Clichy + 8 M for Bendtner + 8 M for Denilson

Money in= 60-65 M

Players in= Gervinho , Alvarez , Samba , Baines , Parker/Barton , Willian and Steklenberg = 60-70 M well spent

P.S. I like the above team..!! ur opinions Gunners..??


I am not saying that it is his market value, but if we ask man city or real madrid he could be yours for 60m, they would not have second thought.
Ronaldo went for 80m, Kaka for 50m, these were not there market values, but the value paid a club to buy a top player of another top club.

My team for next year would be

Szczesny
Sagna Samba/Kos Vermaelen/Djourou Vermaelen/Enrique
Parker/Song
Wilshere/Ramsey Nasri/Hazard
Walcott/Alvarez or costa RVP/Benzema/Chamakh Arshavin/Hazard/Nasri

Or maybe 4-4-2

Szczesny
Sagna Samba/Kos Vermaelen/Djourou Vermaelen/Enrique
Wilshere/Ramsey/Nasri/Song
Walcott/Alvarez or Costa Arshavin/Hazard/Nasri
Rvp/Chamakh
Benzema/RVP
?Ricardo Alvarez Has Already Signed For Arsenal? ? Palermo President Maurizio Zamparini - Goal.com

Who would ever turn down Arsenal for Palermo..??

Arsenal's big summer spending starts..!! Many more to come keep waiting..!!

Well if u ask me SAF is building a gr8 squad with top talent n great bench strength as well as future..!!

4-4-1-1

------------------------------De Gea/Lindegaard

--Rafael/Fabio/Evans------Vidic/Jones-----Rio/Smalling/Evans-----Fabio/Evra


----------Fletcher/Carrick/Jones------Anderson/Giggs/....???(Modric)

----Valencia/Nani/Cleverley-------------------------------Park/Nani/Young

-------------------------Rooney/Young/Cleverley

-------------------------------------Hernandez/Rooney/Welbeck



Man Utd Young brigade


---------------------------De Gea(20)/Lindegaard(26)

----Rafael(20)-----Jones(19)/Evans(23)-------Smalling(21)-------Fabio(20)

---------Anderson(23)/Tunnicliffe(1----------Pogba(1

------Nani(24)/Cleverley(21)---------------------Cleverley(21)/Morrison(1

---------Welbeck(20)/Macheda(19)-------Hernandez(23)/Diouf(23)

Add Joshua King , Will Keane to Strikers list plus Blackett as LB.. He is 17 or 18 and already 6 feet plus Valencia and Young are just 25 only so they are gonna be around for a while too..!! Fletcher is 27 too so he is gonna be there too for 3 yrs atleast..!!


We look set for next 5-8 yrs with a little bit of twitching and fine tuning to this young brigade..!!

Bring on our Youth Give them a chance to Welbeck , Cleverely, Anderson , Jones they wnt dissapoint i m sure..!!

P.S. Is this gonna be Anderson's season..?? Well make or break time for him at Utd..!! he luks good but not for full 90 mins needs to work on his fitness and have an injury free season bcz he does possess the skill n ability as Ronaldinho as he was once touted as a new Ronaldinho...!!

Even I am wishing the same regarding Ando.

He has lots of skill. He can shield the ball well and run with it( something that we missed with old scholes, fletcher and carrick)

Neymar linked with madrid
Neymar ,benzema and ronaldo will kill MVP next season .

Even I am wishing the same regarding Ando.

He has lots of skill. He can shield the ball well and run with it( something that we missed with old scholes, fletcher and carrick)


pple ask us about Scholes and Giggs replacement well we did it long time ago in Anderson and Nani.. Young is coming as Park's replacement as Park has 1-2 yrs left in him at top level..!!


Its time for Anderson to step up his game..!!

De Gea undergoing United medical
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manutd spending spree to go beyond 50 million.
Just when big fish namely city, chelsea, maybe liverpool( coz they bought henderson but they have some more signings to make) are about to enter the market, manutd have done their business ( almost done.. )

Bad news for United fans as Raphael Varane has agreed to a move to Real Madrid........