CAT 2012 Kerala study group

@joethaliath Ya LR was difficult in my slot compared to 1st day slots. I took CAT on 3rd day. So within a gap of 2 days the difficulty of LR was increased, say 2 times. This shows that there no such rules like exams on first few days would be easy and on last days would be difficult. Question pattern would remain the same but level of difficulty keeps on swinging. That is why I am requesting you not to rely on any assumptions. eg: LR may be our strongest area but if a tough LR comes, we need to set our ego aside(that is 'I can solve any LR sets! So no matter how much time it takes, I will solve the sets!') and go for VA part. It is not like we haven't touched VA during preps. So intelligent recognition of difficulty of questions plays an important role.

PS: Don't think that I am arrogantly lecturing you Ok! I don't even have even a degree yet , but what I am trying to do is, giving all the little things I can so that it may help you. ATB bro!
@spdspd said:

. eg: LR may be our strongest area but if a tough LR comes, we need to set our ego aside(that is 'I can solve any LR sets! So no matter how much time it takes, I will solve the sets!') and go for VA part. It is not like we haven't touched VA during preps. So intelligent recognition of difficulty of questions plays an important role.

Dude, this happened to me in last year's CAT. Had an LR set which was really difficult. I couldn't solve it. There was the option of cannot be determined in all 3 questions of the set. I spent 30mins on the set. Finally chose CBD for all 3. Had around 15mins for the 3 RCs. And the 1st RC i chose was a philosophical one Did something. After the exam, i found out that all 3 of my answers in the LR set was wrong.
@pradyothcjohn how did it go ? πŸ˜ƒ

phewwwww..my CAT2012 can be summed up in 1 malayalam word which starts with 'o' and ends in 'bi' πŸ˜› 😁 it was terrible 😁 a couple of my classmates at IIM I Mumbai had also booked the same slot at the same centre.. in sec1,i attempted 11..i don't know what happened,i got stuck with 3-4 qns which i left halfway and i didn't get enough time to complete one DI set..but still,11 is..phew.. my classmates attempted 28 and 24,dispelling any hopes i had of the paper being difficult πŸ˜› 😁 i guess sec1 would have been easy for anyone who had prepared well. i thought i'd get some respite in sec2;i thought wrong..3 LR sets ..moderate to easy..3 RC sets,2 were moderate to difficult and 1 was untouchable ..paragraph completion,even AIMCATS didn't have qns that were that hard..
so what did i do? i attempted 30/30 πŸ˜› 😁 😁 :D
All i can say is,i feel extremely happy that i joined here when i had the chance to..on another day,i might have attempted 15 in sec and around 24-25 i was sure of in sec2...but today just was not my day :D
p.s: i have a Quantitative Techniques-1 test tomorrow (the 3rd quiz already since i joined on 9th :D) and 3 mid-terms this week πŸ˜› 😁

@pradyothcjohn Thanks for the post bro !!! Nyway hard luck but normalization is a 'bitch in constant sway'
So u never know ... we will see on the 9th

P.S : Howz B-skool life treating u ?
No one ever banned you from this thread rt .. Forget us not & post with a bit more frequency !! Our official motivator cum spokesman !!!
May be a few words of wisdom for njangal pavangal !!!

Hey guys,

Can any1 share the info about the centre at Cochin, ie, Spanning n/w's?

If you are coming by train , get down at south and its hardly 500mtrs by walk , ask for BSNL CUSTOMER CARE near Karikkamuri ( please not there is also a BSNL BHAVAN near South railway station, so be careful about that ) . The exam centre is opposite the customer care.


If you are coming by any other public transport, reach Ekm South / Jos Junction and take an auto



The distance from my house to the CAT centre is 600m


@dna_lost Call me if you get lost or need directions. When is your exam ?

@seetharam7

@joethaliath

No no, I just need to know about the atmosphere/facility/staffs there. I am from cochin itself and would be taking CAT on 30th. :)

@dna_lost I will be writing this thursday. Will let you know. :)
@dna_lost By the way, whats your real name ? What are you doing now ?

@seetharam7:

Ok, All right. All the best. How are the preps going?

I'm Anand. I'm working @ TCS in infopark.. WBU?

It seems many are taking their exam in the Thursday slots. I have spotted @seetharam7 and
@Kevin88 (PMed me in my mail..Thanks for the alarm ) besides myself.. Oh and this is my first post in this forum in this id, i think ( old id was @vinmohcetvmklm, got hacked by some alavalathi). Stayed away from the forums cos of rumorophobia .. nyways, my best wishes to every soul who is yet to take the exam and to those guys whos already done with their CAT, good luck wit the results (premature, i know )

@raku1989 @rohan_bhasker @pugna @seetharam7 @joethaliath @Vineeth555

Guys have a few queries..(simple though it may seem but still have some lingering doubt & need clarifications from your end..)

1)What is the exact definition of the term 'margin'?
Eg: When both a loss & a profit is made on the sale of 2 goods... is the margin the
difference between the two ? Or am i completely wrong ?

2) Is their an easier way to solve the following eq :

x^2 + (x/(x+1))^2 = 8 (Apart from the tedious & long approach of factorization)

3) How do you plot a graph for the above eq? Does anyone know how to solve such eqs
graphically ?

4) Could someone shed some light on clocks especially about losing time/gaining time / no of meeting points etc
@dna_lost said:

@seetharam7:

Ok, All right. All the best. How are the preps going?

I'm Anand. I'm working @ TCS in infopark.. WBU?

Preps are going. Don't know where exactly its heading. and I will be joining TCS. Training starts at Hyderabad on 26 December.
@Vineeth555 said:
It seems many are taking their exam in the Thursday slots. I have spotted
@seetharam7 and @Kevin88 (PMed me in my mail..Thanks for the alarm ) besides myself.. Oh and this is my first post in this forum in this id, i think ( old id was @vinmohcetvmklm, got hacked by some alavalathi). Stayed away from the forums cos of rumorophobia .. nyways, my best wishes to every soul who is yet to take the exam and to those guys whos already done with their CAT, good luck wit the results (premature, i know )
ATB to you to !
@Kevin88 said:
@raku1989 @rohan_bhasker @pugna @seetharam7 @joethaliath @Vineeth555
Guys have a few queries..(simple though it may seem but still have some lingering doubt & need clarifications from your end..)1)What is the exact definition of the term 'margin'?
Eg: When both a loss & a profit is made on the sale of 2 goods... is the margin the
difference between the two ? Or am i completely wrong ?2) Is their an easier way to solve the following eq :
x^2 + (x/(x+1))^2 = 8 (Apart from the tedious & long approach of factorization)
3) How do you plot a graph for the above eq? Does anyone know how to solve such eqs
graphically ?4) Could someone shed some light on clocks especially about losing time/gaining time / no of meeting points etc
Margin is difference bw SP and CP.
Eg : suppose the CP of 2 articles is same. He sells one for profit of 30% and other for loss of 10%.

Let CP of each be = 100
Then SP1 = 130 and SP2=90
Margin would be = total SP - total CP
Margin % would be calculated based on CP

For solving the equation, x/x+1 is less than 1. So square also would be less than 1. So, the 1st term square would be between 7 and 8. Then check the options.

I don't know how to plot a graph cause its an equation on 1 variable. There has to be a "y" right ?

No idea about clocks. Don't usually attempt them.
@Kevin88
for the 2nd deg equation, as the denominator represents a complex second power, i usually shift the complexity from denominator to the numerator ( by substituting). that way, I will be able to get all possible values ( incl. negatives)
regarding, margin, I take it as the net difference in the selling price and cost price. although, i thought, margin % was calculated based on SP.. cos u r earning a margin on what u r SELLING do correct me guys..@seetharam7 i didnt get ur concept of calculating it based on CP. mind clarifying? ( can be useful fr CAT 2013 for me )
Now regarding graphs, if u have a basic idea bout the shapes of graphs, of various figures ( lines, circles, parabolas, ellipse, hyperbolas etc), it can be helpful. If I was asked to solve that eq using graphs, my method would be to convert that equ into a known pattern ( as it has a 2nd degree and one variable, graph is usually not needed, i doubt whether a graph would be generated) .. ini athava njan paranjathu thettanel onnum thonnaruthu.. padichu padichu oru vazhiyaaya manushyante eccentricity aanennu karuthi kshemikkuka..

regarding clocks, I dont use/ dont know the exact theory. gaining and losing time, i ll give a try using the options. and see whether the conditions hold. For meeting points, i am clueless
@Vineeth555 said:
@Kevin88 for the 2nd deg equation, as the denominator represents a complex second power, i usually shift the complexity from denominator to the numerator ( by substituting). that way, I will be able to get all possible values ( incl. negatives) regarding, margin, I take it as the net difference in the selling price and cost price. although, i thought, margin % was calculated based on SP.. cos u r earning a margin on what u r SELLING do correct me guys..@seetharam7 i didnt get ur concept of calculating it based on CP. mind clarifying? ( can be useful fr CAT 2013 for me ) Now regarding graphs, if u have a basic idea bout the shapes of graphs, of various figures ( lines, circles, parabolas, ellipse, hyperbolas etc), it can be helpful. If I was asked to solve that eq using graphs, my method would be to convert that equ into a known pattern ( as it has a 2nd degree and one variable, graph is usually not needed, i doubt whether a graph would be generated) .. ini athava njan paranjathu thettanel onnum thonnaruthu.. padichu padichu oru vazhiyaaya manushyante eccentricity aanennu karuthi kshemikkuka.. regarding clocks, I dont use/ dont know the exact theory. gaining and losing time, i ll give a try using the options. and see whether the conditions hold. For meeting points, i am clueless
Ok. Now even i have a doubt. @pugna @raku1989 Help us out.

@Vineeth555 CAT 2013 ?? Dude, weren't you scoring 140+ in the AIMCATs ?