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Hi,
I am Deepak and looking for admission in ISB / Insead.

1) I have applied in ISB for 2013 batch in R2, but got reject on Feb 15, 2012. How can I differentiate my profile from application made in previous year?


There could be many reasons for the reject despite a competitive profile- incidentally, we at MBA Decoder have been helping candidates figure out possible reasons for a reject. You can PM me your essays (in Word format) and a profile summary/ resume for a feedback.

Whether I stood any chance for Insead Admission. Keeping in view my GMAT score at lower end of the thread and with no international exposure, I want to check, if I apply to Insead, any chance is there?


If you can get your story right for INSEAD, then you definately stand a chance. As such, INSEAD looks for a global mindset. So even if you are not travelling abroad, but are interacting with people from diverse nationalities, you are okay.

A good strategy can be to get a recommendation from a foreign national (you can submit upto 3 recommendations at INSEAD). But you should have worked very closely with this person and he should have something commendable to say about your communications skills, adaptability and 'global mindset'.

Namita at MBA Decoder

Hello Consultants and Puys,

Please evaluate my profile and help me clear some doubts of mine by sparing some of your valuable time.

B.E - 67% (Electronics & Comm Engg) - recovered from backlogs in 2 of my semesters but without any gap in between. :banghead:
I've done a 6 month Diploma in Advanced Computing (DAC) from CDAC, Bangalore and scored 72%.

Work Experience - I've been working as a Software Engineer for a US based product based company (private) in the Aviation industry for about 2 years now. I've had an international experience of about 3 months during the course of my job. I believe my total experience will be at least 3 years by the time I apply.

Extra Curricular Activities - I'm an avid football fan and have captained my team in school and played for the college team. I have also participated and won in various skit competitions, cricket tournaments etc organized within the company although I havent received any certificates for my wins.

The reason I plan to do an MBA is because progress in Aviation industry is slow compared to the rest where the average life cycle for a product to develop takes around 10-15 years with all the safety standards that have to be followed and likewise progression in the career path takes less or equal amount of time. Hence I intend to take a shortcut through an MBA by giving priority to change my field into finance (higher priority) which I feel interesting apart from my work.

I'm planning to give my GMAT this year and intend to score in the range 700-730. My interests are in Finance (IB) / Technology stream whichever is easier to get. My queries are as follows:

1.) Which universities would consider my application for my profile and the estimated score described above among the top 50 B schools giving consideration to the field I want to pursue?

2.) I'm looking for options in countries other than US/UK like Canada, Europe or Australia considering overall costs but I'm open to US also if they provide better value compared to the rest. If so which schools in US?

3.) If the above profile is not good enough for the goals mentioned, should i target for a higher score or maybe try to improve my co-curricular activities. What do you suggest?

4.) What would be the average expense during the entire duration of the course including living and all other factors? I have already got an estimate (about 100k$) but I wanna confirm it from the experienced people out here. Is this amount good enough for top schools in US too or is it well off the limit?

5.) Are the job and salary prospects equal for an MBA in Finance/Technology? Which is higher?

Thanks!


Hi Consultants,
Thanks for maintaining such a high quality thread. Please have a look at my profile, attached with this post, and my target schools (the list is evolving), and let me know if both are in sync. :)
Short Term Career Goals - I'd like to make a transition from a service based industry into a full-fledged consulting/strategy role, preferably in banking sector.
Long Term Career Goals Working as a strategic decision maker (partner) for a leading international bank, like CITI or JP Morgan Chase. Ive seen business team working in my client Standard Bank, and it kind of inspired me a lot.
Target Schools Ive been able to filter out some schools where I definitely will apply. I know I can stretch myself for higher ranked schools, and hence this list will grow:
  1. ISB, India
  2. NUS, Singapore
  3. Nanyang, Singapore
  4. Mays, Texas A&M;, US
  5. RSM, Erasmus, Netherlands

You can observe that I am lacking direction on where exactly I want to be post-MBA. But frankly speaking, the geographies dont matter much to me (or I think so). Also, after a bit of dilemma, I started to focus on programs that are > 1 year, although I chose ISB because its in India and RSM for the fact that the program starts in January, so I can finish my MBA by end of 2013 (though it might be a stupid idea to choose a school just because of this).
My main focus now is to channelize my efforts to concentrate on other aspects like essays, recommendations, interviews etc., but I need a direction. I am in Bangalore currently, and seeking help from a counsellor.:|

Hi
10th score ->62
12th score->55
Grad.(B.com) score->57 (Correspondence From panjab university , chandigarh)

Last year in CAT 2011 , i got 92.73 percentile but due to financial problem i could not get admission and this year i m again trying for the CAT and hoping to get near about 98 percentile. Do u think with this academic score and a good percentile in CAT will help me getting admission in good B School.
Also having Work ex of 2 years as asst. acountant

Hi,

I was reading the older posts in this thread and it's great to read Arun, Sameer, Namita and other's answers here. Thanks, guys!

My profile:
Age: 30
GMAT: 3 attempts 700, 710, 740 (the last one was in July last year)

Experience: 7 years in May, 2012
3.7 years in Adobe
1.2 year in a start-up
2.7 years in Yahoo (Tech Lead)
Pros: Involved with some big brands
Cons: 0 international experience (IIM-A PGPX had a separate section for this which I left blank) and career growth is not exceptional - I have managed small teams, been product owners and handled customers from various parts of the world (which is regular work for someone with 7 years of exp)

Education:
MCA with 4.6/6.0 from Univ of Pune
BCA with 83.4% from BIT


Extra Curricular: Average
Organized football/cricket/tennis tournaments in College and company
Involved with a book club and toastmasters (but have not managed to stay regular)
Some NGO activities (but at basic level - and am not very interested to show it off unless necessary)

Professional Certificates: None so far
I'm planning to get some tech certificates like scrum master within the next 2-3 months. Looking for some professional certificates as well - still investigating.

2011: ISB - rejected after interview
IIM-A PGPX - rejected before interview

My questions:
1. I am planning to apply for 2013, and wanted to know the areas I should work on to improve my profile? Extra-curricular (book club, toastmaster, sports etc - all of the above are easy for me to get involved) or getting some professional degree? Which are the ones that can help me?
2. The colleges I am targeting are the ones that offer one year programs. IIM-A,B PGPX courses, NUS, INSEAD, IE, Oxford, Cambridge, and schulich. The reason is that with 7-8 years of experience I don't think I'll be able to change my industry - so better to get into some business related roles within IT industry or maybe into consulting. What are my chances for the above colleges?
3. My long-term plan is to stay in Asia but also to work in the US or Europe for 3-4 years to pay off my education loans. Would that be better than to continue in IT and do a part time MBA? I know this is more a question I myself need to answer. But if you can give me some parameters I should consider. The ones I have been thinking about: short term risk (leaving a 'safe' IT job in India, a full time MBA must have a better long term prospects (say 10 years later), if I have to come back to India after my MBA will there be enough recognition by Indian employers?


Thanks!
Anshuman

Hi,
want to know about ITM Bangalore for PGDM-finance Plz help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hi Arun,
I am a complete newbee now getting into the GMAT queue.It would be great if I can get your contact number so that I can clarify all my doubts about the same.


Thanks
Anish

hi consultant

i am sudeep. i have completed my b.tech in 2011 august with cgpa(6.14/9).
my Xth( 83.4) and XII(79). i wanted to know will i be eligible for IIMs. recently one of my friend got a good score but was not selected for IIMs because of not 90+ in the school levels and graduation as well. Is there any specific criteria that we should have a 90 in our school level as well in the graduation level???

Hi,
I had taken the GMAT for HBS 2+2 program but I could not make it to HBS. My GMAT score is 770. My post MBA goal is to join a consulting firm(strategy such as BCG or marketing such as ZS) .
I have no professional work experience. I will work for 3 years before applying to the MBA programs. I recently got placed in Infosys as a system engineer. Please tell me whether this kind of work experience will be beneficial(brand wise and profile wise) for the schools I am applying for in order to reach my goal.

Schools:
1. Wharton
2. Booth
3.Kellogg
4. Duke
5. Ross
6. Emory

If not, please suggest the industry/companies I should look at (feeder companies to these schools or profiles preferred by these schools). Is, for instance, work experience in an analytics company better?
Other details:
B.tech Computer science 78% Non-IIT.
Above average ECAs with some community service.

Hi,
I had taken the GMAT for HBS 2+2 program but I could not make it to HBS. My GMAT score is 770. My post MBA goal is to join a consulting firm(strategy such as BCG or marketing such as ZS) .
I have no professional work experience. I will work for 3 years before applying to the MBA programs. I recently got placed in Infosys as a system engineer. Please tell me whether this kind of work experience will be beneficial(brand wise and profile wise) for the schools I am applying for in order to reach my goal.

Schools:
1. Wharton
2. Booth
3.Kellogg
4. Duke
5. Ross
6. Emory

If not, please suggest the industry/companies I should look at (feeder companies to these schools or profiles preferred by these schools). Is, for instance, work experience in an analytics company better?
Other details:
B.tech Computer science 78% Non-IIT.
Above average ECAs with some community service.


hi thr,

i am no consultant.. and i am also an aspirant just like u ..
bt still here are my 2 cents..

i also worked as a SE in infy for 1.5 yrs and i dont think this job will help u much for these target schools
1 - u will have a hard time differentiating urself from the crowd
2 - not much relevant learning experiences

better go for some analytical work

pls dont get me wrong i m nt badmouthing infy at all... i feel infy is a great company if u wish to build a career in IT industry (which is nt bad as well) and ppl do get into big schools from infy as well
so if u have a liking for IT stuff pls do join infy otherwise i recommend some analytical stuff .. i feel this is a great emerging industry and can help u to build a good profile

bt i feel consultants might be in a better position to comment.
and btw a great GMAT 😃

Good Evening Everyone

My Profile : B.E (Hons) + MBA from IMI Delhi (Finance)

Work Ex: 30 Months Infosys (Pre MBA experience)

I am going to join Capgemini in an IT consulting profile

My aim is to move from IT to business consulting or strategic consulting side , so i wanted some ideas as to how i can approach it . I am planning to go for another MBA (international ) but not sure when is the right time for that .. Also if there are some courses or certifications i can pursue online from the likes of HBS/NUS , in domains of strategy or consulting it will be great

Thanks in advance

Good noon Everyone!

My profile -

SSC - 84%
HSC - 83%
BE (IT) - 65%

I have total 5.8 years of IT experience in Data warehousing.In these years I have worked with 2 MNCs.As of now, I am leading a project in a product company.

Extra curricular activities and appreciations - None to be precise during my SSC and HSC years.In college, I was a part of organizing committee for 2 years and received certificates of appreciations.At work, I have received award for being the best employee for a quarter.

I will be giving GMAT in May end.

I am targeting ISB and IIM-A for an Executive MBA.
My total budget would be around 20-25 lacs.

Please evalute my profile and let me know the specific areas that needs urgent attention.

Thanks
Kunal

Hi....I have an admit from California State University, fullerton and Thunderbird school of globl management, arizona...
I wnt to specialize in Finanace...Please suggest which should i go fo..???

Hello,
Just wanted to know whether with GMAT also,one is eligible for regular PGDM courses in IIM's exactly the way it is with CAT.Kindly bear with me if the question seems foolish but am just exploring more about GMAT.Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks
Anish

hi thr,

i am no consultant.. and i am also an aspirant just like u ..
bt still here are my 2 cents..

i also worked as a SE in infy for 1.5 yrs and i dont think this job will help u much for these target schools
1 - u will have a hard time differentiating urself from the crowd
2 - not much relevant learning experiences

better go for some analytical work

pls dont get me wrong i m nt badmouthing infy at all... i feel infy is a great company if u wish to build a career in IT industry (which is nt bad as well) and ppl do get into big schools from infy as well
so if u have a liking for IT stuff pls do join infy otherwise i recommend some analytical stuff .. i feel this is a great emerging industry and can help u to build a good profile

bt i feel consultants might be in a better position to comment.
and btw a great GMAT :)


Thanks a lot! 😃 The problem is that it is difficult to get into a recognized analytics brand but infosys seems to be (to my limited knowledge) one of the brands that MBA admission committee (of an international program) will immediately recognize. What do you think? Also, tell me if there is any point in applying to accenture, wipro, tcs, hcl etc. for an IT profile(similar to infy).

Hi Consultant,

I am new to PG and this is gonna be my first post. I am BE(EIE) graduate from Anna University 2009. My Academic Details are

10th(stateboard) - 91%
12th(stateboard)- 91.5%
BE -77%

Work Experiance-32 months as Industrial automation Engineer
1st company - Vedanta resources (20 months)
Now - Invensys (12 months)
working in singapore for almost a year, 4 international business travels.
EC- National cadet corp for 2 years, have got some certificates in sports and Dance in college and school level.

I have left my current job and serving my notice period, may be till the mid of may. The reason I left my current job is bcoz i have been working like a slave for 14- 15 hours a day and 6 days a week and sometimes 7 days. The reason i stayed here for a year is just to gain the international experience, which i am done with.

I have planned to give GMAT and CAT in 2012, planning for 2013 admissions. My dilemma is whether to join another job or join some NGO's??.. bcoz i already shifted two jobs in 32 months.. joining another job may give a bad impression on my profile.

Kindly Advice me in this regard or do i have any other options to do while i am idle preparing for the tests.??

I already posted this in a another forum and got a suggestion to post it in here..

Thanks In Advance..!!

Rgds
Balna

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Dear Consultants,
I'm posting my query again. I am a B.Com grad with 63% from Nagpur India. Good EC. Age-36
Work Ex: After Graduation I worked for Asian paints & Tata British petroleum for 5 years as sales officer. Then I started My training institute( Coaching Class) . I have been running this institute for 9 years. Now I want to go into general management field in corporate sector. My GMAT score is 730 QA 50 VA 42.
My questions to you are: -
1) Do you think it is a right decision to change my career after so many years?
2) Can you suggest me some career options?
3) I'm planning to go for executive MBA from IIMs. Do you think it is going to help me achieve my goal?

Hi,
You have to have better clarity over why you want a change in the career. From your second point here, I gather that you don't have this clarity.
At your age and level in career, you need to be very sure about what you want to get into, so that you do not feel any dissonance after making a career change. Also, you will not want to leave a (established) business for something that may be lesser satisfying. If you are unsure of your career options and take up something randomly, chances are you would be more miserable there.
Secondly, the admissions teams will expect you to have clear career goals, before they give you an admit. This is more important for older candidates.
Your interest in General management seems well placed because you have already been managing a business for the past 9 years. Infact your reason to do an MBA could be to gain overall management perspective to grow your business (imagine a nation wide chain).
Another question that will come up is what will happen to your institute while you are studying? If its an executive MBA, then you could continue to run it. Studying at the IIMs will be a great choice, but like I stated before, you will need to get your 'career objectives and the need for MBA' story right.
Namita at MBA Decoder
Hi,


My profile:
Age: 30
GMAT: 3 attempts 700, 710, 740 (the last one was in July last year)

Experience: 7 years in May, 2012
3.7 years in Adobe
1.2 year in a start-up
2.7 years in Yahoo (Tech Lead)

Extra Curricular: Average
Professional Certificates: None so far

The colleges I am targeting are the ones that offer one year programs. IIM-A,B PGPX courses, NUS, INSEAD, IE, Oxford, Cambridge, and schulich. The reason is that with 7-8 years of experience I dont think Ill be able to change my industry so better to get into some business related roles within IT industry or maybe into consulting. What are my chances for the above colleges?


Anshuman,

Congratulations on your GMAT score.

Your interest in a one year programme is well placed. With a 7-year work experience, you would definately want to transition to a role where you can make use of your skills and knowledge gained so far, but in a larger context. And IT consulting fits that requirement perfectly.

Your list of b-schools is a good start. All of them would like to see an international outlook, which is not necessarily related to travelling abroad, but interacting with international teams. With 7 years in the IT industry, I am sure you must have got these opportunities.


2011: ISB rejected after interview
IIM-A PGPX rejected before interview


So, the GMAT score alone does not help. :). There could have been some gaps in your statement of purpose, for instance, the career objectives and the need for an MBA.

MBA Decoder has been giving feedback to applicants who got a reject from a b-school. You may want to send me (PM/ email) your essays along with your resume/ profile description for a feedback on what couks have gone wrong. This may help you to rethink about your 2012 application strategy.


I am planning to apply for 2013, and wanted to know the areas I should work on to improve my profile? Extra-curricular (book club, toastmaster, sports etc all of the above are easy for me to get involved) or getting some professional degree? Which are the ones that can help me?


Extra curricular and volunteering activities help you in two ways- 1. they demonstrate that you are a person who has interests in non-preofessional pursuits as well and will therefore bring a richer perspective to a b-school community.
2. They give you a chance to lead outside work. In your case, you feel that you have not got that opportunity at work, so you can seek it outside. Toastmasters is a great platform to get leadership experience and it will be great to up your activity there. Also, get inoved in the community in some way- and let this be a regural activity.

Professional degrees like Scrum Master- while they help you in your career, I do not see them adding much to your b-school application.


My long-term plan is to stay in Asia but also to work in the US or Europe for 3-4 years to pay off my education loans. Would that be better than to continue in IT and do a part time MBA? I know this is more a question I myself need to answer. But if you can give me some parameters I should consider. The ones I have been thinking about: short term risk (leaving a safe IT job in India, a full time MBA must have a better long term prospects (say 10 years later), if I have to come back to India after my MBA will there be enough recognition by Indian employers?


A part time MBA can have its limitations- you will have to do it locally and your interaction with your class would be limited. A major chunk of your b-school learning happens through your interaction with the classmates (who would have varied backgrounds).

You are bang on about a FT MBA having a better long term prospect. Sometimes 'safe jobs' can get boring and complacent, and it may be the right time for you to challenge your limits. Besides you would probably learn a lot more in the rich and dynamic environment of b-school than you would at work, in the next 12- 18 months.

Namita at MBA Decoder