[2011] XAT and XLRI official thread for queries

13. The district health officer boasts that the average ambulance turnaround time, the
time from summons to delivery of the patient, has been reduced this year for top-priority
emergencies. This is a serious misrepresentation. This "reduction" was produced simply
by redefining "top priority". Such emergencies Used to include gunshot wounds and
electrocutions, the most time-consuming cases. Now they are limited strictly to heart
attacks and strokes.
Which one of the following would strengthen the author's conclusion that it was the
redefinition of "top priority" that produced the reduction in turnaround time?
A. The number of heart attacks and strokes declined this year.
B. The health officer redefined the district's medical priorities this year.
C. One half of all last year's top-priority emergencies were gunshot wounds and
electrocution cases.

D. Other cities include gunshot wound cases in their category of top-priority
emergencies.


my take is in bold!!

kvijaybabu Says
A i beleive.




This was an mediocre one puys,

Here is the xplanation - You see even if the no. of cases of heart attacks declines it would have no effect on turnaround time of the ambulance coz it is not the case that due to more no. of cases the cases are overlapping and hence ambulances cannot reach....the actual problem (acc to te author) was that bullet injuries took a lot of time to serve and hence ambulances were unavailable...So A is not the ans...

Again B just reiterates the fact given in the Q itself....it does not strenghten the case at all..
C is right as it correctly justifies the longer turnaround time of ambulances last yr. and is in-line with the authors argument.....
Hope i helped.......~!

13. The district health officer boasts that the average ambulance turnaround time, the
time from summons to delivery of the patient, has been reduced this year for top-priority
emergencies. This is a serious misrepresentation. This "reduction" was produced simply
by redefining "top priority". Such emergencies Used to include gunshot wounds and
electrocutions, the most time-consuming cases. Now they are limited strictly to heart
attacks and strokes.
Which one of the following would strengthen the author's conclusion that it was the
redefinition of "top priority" that produced the reduction in turnaround time?
A. The number of heart attacks and strokes declined this year.
B. The health officer redefined the district's medical priorities this year.
C. One half of all last year's top-priority emergencies were gunshot wounds and
electrocution cases.
D. Other cities include gunshot wound cases in their category of top-priority
emergencies.


option C is what i feel...

kvijaybabu Says
Tough one... will go with B. A, C and D can be logically concluded.

:cheerio::cheerio::cheerio:
Can you xplain how A,C and D can be concluded.??

Iacocca is extremely happy, so he must be extremely tall because all tall people are happy.
This argument is of the type ...A is B...so A must be C as All C is B....Clearly in set language.....C(being tall) is subset of B(being happy)...It cannot be concluded that if sum1 is happy he must be tall....though the converse is true...!

I just found the answer tone to be in-line with the one given in the Q...so i think this is a clue.....but none of the arguments r logically conclusive.....

Can sum1 throw some light on wich 2 logical flaws r mentioned in the Q stem?
13. The district health officer boasts that the average ambulance turnaround time, the
time from summons to delivery of the patient, has been reduced this year for top-priority
emergencies. This is a serious misrepresentation. This "reduction" was produced simply
by redefining "top priority". Such emergencies Used to include gunshot wounds and
electrocutions, the most time-consuming cases. Now they are limited strictly to heart
attacks and strokes.
Which one of the following would strengthen the author's conclusion that it was the
redefinition of "top priority" that produced the reduction in turnaround time?
A. The number of heart attacks and strokes declined this year.
B. The health officer redefined the district's medical priorities this year.
C. One half of all last year's top-priority emergencies were gunshot wounds and
electrocution cases.
D. Other cities include gunshot wound cases in their category of top-priority
emergencies.


My take in bold
DIRECTIONS: Questions 14-19 are based on the passage below.
Deliberative democracy demands a reflexive (or reflection driven) reordering of preferences in a non-coercive manner. The authenticity of democracy requires in addition that these reflective preferences, influence collective outcomes and action, and so long as
the state is the main (though far from exclusive) locus of collective decisions, it requires discursive mechanisms for transmission of public opinion to the state. A deliberative or more properly a discursive democracy, in order that it can accommodate several competing versions of democracies such as the liberal, the minimal, me difference, etc., must also accommodate rhetoric, narratives, and empathy along with reasoning. A
rationality and a reasoning that does not accommodate values is meaningless. However, it is also argued that' individual rationality cannot he realized if values are embedded in the decision procedures, in other words, realization of values could be made possible only
when individuals behave non- rationally. Further if values having been abandoned at the individual level are accorded a place only collectively, the same must lead to either "epistemological inconsistency or abandonment of autonomy of individual evaluations".
A talk or a rhetoric, otherwise, is strategic and is employed with the intention of signaling certain information. Such a talk can be therefore deceptive and coercive. The illocutionary force and the normative trappings of a Foucauldian discourse while allowing identification with a community and differences with the others, do simultaneously pose through coercion a threat to an utterance as such. If democracy cannot ensure utterance as freedom and if the illocutionary forces in a discursive democracy disciplines the thought and the talk, then how such a democracy could indeed be called authentic! Most human actions and discourses are actuated by a deeper or primordial antedeliberation
Desire (let us use a capital 'D'). Speaking as such is out of such a Desire (one might use volition or passion). Engaging in a deliberation or else in an action is possible
only since there has been such a Desire. Desire appears to both the reflection and also to an observer as a mental-state. A discourse can be set only when such mental states are in harmony, or share a common predisposition or attitude. In the absence of such shared
mental-states, no discourse and no deliberation can begin. A running underlying and most often unstated theme that remains at the back of the idea of deliberative democracy is competition - a competition with the 'other' which introduces strategy. The alternative to
competition, a mental-state which is out of a Desire to enjoy the 'other' in the light of a memorythat this 'one' and the 'other' were but the same and would again become the same, do not appear in the known Anglo-American literature. Such a mental-state might
generate and keep alive possibilities of cooperation although is never a state of cooperation alone as such.
14. Which of the following follows from the passage above?
A. A rhetoric laden talk can generate authentic democratic collective choice
B. Irrational persons alone can have values
C. Authenticity of democracy requires a strong reflection-action interaction
D. A paradigm of competition alone can sustain an authentic democracy

15. Desire as ante-deliberation driving action refer to:
A. Irrationality of deliberation
B. Uselessness of deliberation
C. Desire to act without thinking
D. Temporal inconsistency in a position that argues for deliberative action constituting
democracy

16. Which of the following is true from the passage?
A. Author argues that democracy is bound to fail
B. Author argues that Desire is primal
C Author argues for an, end to primal desire so that an end to competition can come
through
D. None of the above

17. A Foucauldian discourse as used in the passage does NOT refer to:
A. Discourse based on power
B. Community based discourse
C Strategic discourse
D. None of the above

18. Which of the following words is. closest to the word 'primordial' as used in the
passage above?
A. Elemental
B. Anarchist
C. Animalistic
D. Nihilistic

19. Which of the following captures the spirit of the position that the author hints at
through the phrase 'alternative to competition'?
A. All the pragmatic world is-a stage -a play unfolding
B. Democracy is an unruly fight among citizens
C. Socialist planning does away with the chaos of competition
D. None of the above

My reaction after reading this passage............

:banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead:

Would ne recommend to solve such a question ...?

BTW....original XAT 2006 Q.....

If sum1 can please help fellow puys simplify this...


While I haven't read the passage myself, I usually don't try to attempt things when I know my understanding of it is not adequate. If someone understands the passage and is comfortable with it after reading the initial sentences, then by all means, attempt it. Else, let it pass....
12. All intelligent people are nearsighted. I am very nearsighted. So I must be a genius.
Which one of the following exhibits both of the logical flaws exhibited in the argument
above?
A. Iacocca is extremely happy, so he must be extremely tall because all tall people are
happy.
B. All chickens have beaks. This bird has a beak. So this bird must be a chicken.
C. All geniusses are very nearsighted. I must be very near sighted since I am a genius.
D. I must be stupid because all intelligent people are nearsighted and I have perfect
eyesight.

My take in bold

Though I'l go with B.. but m not able to completely eliminate option A.
13. The district health officer boasts that the average ambulance turnaround time, the
time from summons to delivery of the patient, has been reduced this year for top-priority
emergencies. This is a serious misrepresentation. This "reduction" was produced simply
by redefining "top priority". Such emergencies Used to include gunshot wounds and
electrocutions, the most time-consuming cases. Now they are limited strictly to heart
attacks and strokes.
Which one of the following would strengthen the author's conclusion that it was the
redefinition of "top priority" that produced the reduction in turnaround time?
A. The number of heart attacks and strokes declined this year.
B. The health officer redefined the district's medical priorities this year.
C. One half of all last year's top-priority emergencies were gunshot wounds and
electrocution cases.
D. Other cities include gunshot wound cases in their category of top-priority
emergencies.


Whr r de XAT XLRI aspirants.....common ppl....need sum energy here.........!

wud go with option c

My take in bold

12.
A. Iacocca is extremely happy, so he must be extremely tall because all tall people are
happy.
B. All chickens have beaks. This bird has a beak. So this bird must be a chicken.
C. All geniusses are very nearsighted. I must be very near sighted since I am a genius.
D. I must be stupid because all intelligent people are nearsighted and I have perfect
eyesight.


A. The number of heart attacks and strokes declined this year.
B. The health officer redefined the district's medical priorities this year.
C. One half of all last year's top-priority emergencies were gunshot wounds and
electrocution cases.

D. Other cities include gunshot wound cases in their category of top-priority
emergencies.



C. is the best option as it strengthen the author's conclusion. B is vague.

For A: Iacocca is happy. All tall people are happy.

concl: So tacocca will be tall.


This is wrong.....All tall people are happy....Iacocca is tall
=> Iacocca is happy....this inference wud b correct .whereas the one above is not right because of the same reasoning given for B...!

For C: All genuies are near-sighted. I am genius.

conclu: Hence I need to near-sghted.


For D: All intelligent are near sighted. I am far-sighted.


conclu: implies i am definitely not intelligent resulting in stupid,idiot etc.


These reasonings are correct.....:cheerio:

For B: All Chicken have beaks. Some bird has a beak.

conclu: All chickens have beaks... but it hasnt been stated that only chicken have beaks. Hence the bird of stmnt 2 can also be another bird.


Still tied between A & B.....n i still don't get the TWO logical flaws in the Q stem....

hi guys ...
i am getting around 27-28 n mock xat with only 3 -4 no in eng.....
1)i want to knw hw much marks we need in english to clear gim cutoff 0f 60%ile....in a normal xat level paper...pls help

hi guys ...
i am getting around 27-28 n mock xat with only 3 -4 no in eng.....
1)i want to knw hw much marks we need in english to clear gim cutoff 0f 60%ile....in a normal xat level paper...pls help


It all depends upon the level on the XAT day. I suggest you NOT to target for 60%tile in VA and make it safe , at least 10+.

I screwed my QA last season and cleared all the other sections XL BM Call. That is because , I thought, I needed to attempt 17-19 Qs in LR for 95+(LR Section) in XAT. So no pre - conceived. Devote at least 30 mins to all sections and maximise in the buffer time.

All the best. 😃

I believe the GENUINE QUERIES RELATED TO XAT AND XLRI ARE BEING LOST IN THE MIDST OF QUESTIONS DISCUSSIONS... GUYS CAN'T WE DISCUSS THESE QUESTIONS ABOUT ETHICAL DECISION MAKING IN SOME RELEVANT THREAD RATHER THAN HERE IN THE XLRI/XAT QUERIES THREAD?????

aviat18 Says
okay i know this sounds outright silly but last night while going through my xlri form i realised that i had marked GMP as my first option when i am not even eligible for it. i have marked my second & third option as BM & HR. i cannot stop cursing myself for doing such a stupid thing. is their anyway i can help myself now?? prbably by shooting a mail to the xlri ppl or something... please help seniors:banghead::banghead::banghead:


can someone please respond to my query... im really getting anxious now
It all depends upon the level on the XAT day. I suggest you NOT to target for 60%tile in VA and make it safe , at least 10+.

I screwed my QA last season and cleared all the other sections XL BM Call. That is because , I thought, I needed to attempt 17-19 Qs in LR for 95+(LR Section) in XAT. So no pre - conceived. Devote at least 30 mins to all sections and maximise in the buffer time.

All the best. :)


Could you please tell us your marks and percentile mapping.....we wud get a better idea of the percentile scores fetched by the marks in that level of diff...!
aviat18 Says
can someone please respond to my query... im really getting anxious now

Buddy, m not a senior...though m working my balls off for being one :P.....but came across a similar query on this thread.....One senior had responded that your preference does not matter.....i mean if u secure the requisite marks to get a BM call you would get it......same applies to all the other courses u applied for....so u have not screwed up any chances.....stop cursing urself n keep up the preps....
I know my answer makes the mention of choices in the form irrelevant but that is wat the senior said.....!

So chill....ATB

Puys,

To cater to the demand of the public for XAT Papers of previous yrs....i am uploading the papers again on this thread....i know they r aleady thr....but as the thread has grown ......thought of uploading again....

The last thing i am xpecting here is groans...!
Here u r ppl...

Also, In case having any trouble downloading....please visit TestFunda.com and get 2008-10 papers thr....

can anyone tell me wat was d sectional cutoffs for XIMB last year?????????


tnx in advance..................

Puys,

To cater to the demand of the public for XAT Papers of previous yrs....i am uploading the papers again on this thread....i know they r aleady thr....but as the thread has grown ......thought of uploading again....

The last thing i am xpecting here is groans...!
Here u r ppl...

Also, In case having any trouble downloading....please visit TestFunda.com and get 2008-10 papers thr....



Only someone out of the mind wud groan on this...
thanks bhai...:)

People, QA cut-offs for XLRI fell by approximately 3 percentile last year. Was this just due to the way students had scored in the paper, or is it a reflection of a general trend towards giving less weightage to Quant?

For those who paid the fees online, have you guys received the xlri prospectus yet ? I have got the xat one and my admit card is uploaded as well but is there any way I can confirm my XLRI application staus ?