My Nation - India

[aspire]

Originally Posted by writetotanveer

Mr Pupil..Am not doubting your creativity ..one bit.. juat wondering why the text on your thread is a straight lift from

IndianRebel's Blog : My Nation - India, IndianRebel blogs on sulekha, Current Affairs blogs, IndianRebel blog from india

Or maybe it is the other way round...

Of course if you are "Indian Rebel"...of that blog as you might well claim..then I seriously doubt your creativity...Why would you exactly copy paste your words??..And I am sure with your fantastic hyper-
Regards
Tanveer

Hi
Went through the blog , some awesome work there done by rebel , I dont see any reason for pupil not to continue , as his credentials have been established .. though indirectly , if he is the rebel of course ..
I was amazed at the plethora of work done by him over the years .. awesome ... takes a lot of dedication .
And hats off to tanveer for his research , And I sincerely hope we dont loose a good contributor

regards

shailesh

[maheshtk_21]

Originally Posted by Pupil

I have mentioned twice that I am also an 'undercover' social activists.

I thought I will join pagalguy to do something good for the society and for the nation. I was wrong.

Students get information from the school, college and educational institutes, but they never get inspiration. It takes just one single inspiration to make a great man. All grow up to earn money, live a luxurious life, have loads of sex, make childrens, and die. I am not here to die; I am here to live forever, if not physically.

I was brutally criticized, slandered, condemned and insulted by members. But, like a fool, I persisted to inspire you'll to do something for our nation.

Now it is time for me to leave. You'll people won. You proved that you are not at all interested to do something for the nation, and if somebody even tries to imagine to do something good for the nation, you'll are going to butcher him like you did to me. You'll are not interested who is trying to do what. You are only concerned with pampering your ego, showing off how street-smart you are, displaying to others that you can bully anybody, trying to prove that you are everybody's big brother. Congratulations. You'll are expert at this.

There is only one author of all these posts at different sites/blogs/forums. That is me. Don't believe me and continue to remain cynical.

Yes, some members must be very jubilant. They drived me out of this forum.

This will be my last post in pagalguy.

Hello Pupil.
I have been a great admirer of your posts, irrespective of whether they have been lifted or not.Apart from God, nobody is original. what all of us post here is a reflection of what we have learnt elsewhere.
So since u claim that u r the contributor on those blogs, why is there any problem??

Secondly, this is very ''unmanly'' of you to leave the forum just because you have to face opposing opinions.
If you have been in social work for so many years,you must have faced stiff opposition at every step.Why do you expect it to be any different here?
Do you only motivate those people who belong to the same ideology as yours?
Any experienced social activist must be aware of the kind of injustice that prevails everywhere. And what is the problem that you have here?
You are allowed to voice your opinions. And many people have shown appreciation and supported your views.

So if you stop posting in this manner, you are validating the claims of your detractors.
or it simply means that you are not determined in your resolve to achieve social justice and equality.

[cat2006_svenk]

Hi guys,
Don't mistake me, i have a basic question.What purpose does this thread serve?

I like my country very much.I am proud of my country.But, past successes and struggles alone wont get us on the right track. If I say I like my country, what difference that ,it makes to the country.We can write articles after articles, on India, on tradition,on culture,on poverty,on unemployment etc.But , the ability to act on our inputs will get us on a higher path.Instead of just boasting , we can work towards making our country a great place to live.

We as Indians have a lot to play in the Nations' destiny, than our leaders. Cheers for the thread, it would be better if we go ahead and do something for the country ,and not just checking whether a guy is creative or not.

[Pupil]

Indian Journalism

Journalists are traders of Truth. They empower the citizens of the country by communicating news on the current affairs. Millions of people decide upon their routine activities of their day-to-day life referring to the newspaper. Journalism is not just about communication of news from the source to the destination - to the common man. With numerous religions, linguistic and cultural diversity, various caste and community norms, Journalism, confronts several nagging challenges. In order to overcome those challenges, Press Council of India established essential guidelines to ensure accuracy, fairness and correctness.

The element of independence in the press is crucial to maintain the quality of press and the code of conduct of journalism. Any external forces, political, social or international, with vested interest could easily influence the common people in the way that can be detrimental for the people as well as to the whole country through press, and to prevent such disaster, there is an element of ethics along with independence. Ethic refers to the conduct that ensures communal peace and harmony. Truth is not an excuse to sensationalism. When millions of different kinds of people are reading the same news, the damage could be fatal if facts are distorted and delusive news is propagated. Any indiscriminate diffusion of unreliable or unverified news could trigger an adverse chain reaction in the country, which could take months or even years to contain.

The press is entitled to ensure financial viability by all legitimate means, but engaging in crass commercialization in cut-throat commercial competition with the rivals, will violate the code of conduct of journalism. Distortion or exaggeration of facts or incidents in relation to communal matters could easily trigger mass hysteria in the country. However, sensationalism in the press has seemingly proved commercially fruitful. With the incremental increase in the number of press organizations in the country, they seemingly adapted an unwritten code of conduct of journalism, which will ensure commercial gain and effective promotion of the press entity. Social responsibility of the press is subverted in the process of catching and entertaining the mindset of the people.

Importance of reporting accurate, fair and correct news is now overpowered by the self-seeking commercial domination in the press industry. Noble, virtuous and courteous journalists are replaced by aggressive, interrogative and persistently fearless journalists. Reports published on a particular issue are getting judgmental and defamatory. Provocative compositions are employed to sensationalize issues or to prompt the people to think and behave in a certain way that may seem appropriate to the agenda of the press. Social agendas that are incompetently deliberated by the press have grievous consequences in the society, and that has been going on for long. They have been instigating repugnance between the people and some political parties so that other political parties are benefited. Questions in the poll conducted by press are so composed that the result achieved is as per their desire. People’s opinions are sought with biased questions that will derive answers that are beneficial for the press.

After the feminist movement in India, there has been a substantial growth of feminism in journalism. Women-related issues are given inordinate precedence due to which the quality of the press has significantly deteriorated. Increase in sophism has been observed with the increase in feministic journalism. The facts are getting distorted because of the preconception of the journalist, which is leading to perplexing transformation of the masses. Journalists are beginning to present facts in the fashion that appears appropriate to their own psyche. Social and National interests are getting defeated by the personal interests of the journalists. It has become an indispensable function of the press to cater to the political agendas of women groups. In the agenda of empowering women, feministic journalist are twisting the facts, exalting misconduct of women, amplifying crime against women, and infringing the rights of men. Male gender is criminalized and female-gender is labeled victims. People’s opinions are getting manipulated.

Press agendas are now getting amalgamated with the political ideologies. Agendas of the political pressure groups are been accomplished with the assistance of the press. People are misled by the press on the instructions of political pressure groups to believe delusive facts, which in particular, will give these pressure groups effective impetus to their vested interests. People are reading, hearing and seeing news what the political pressure groups want them to read, hear and see. Facts are distorted, truth is obscured, falsehood is rationalized, and slanderous statements are made only to achieve the ends of certain political agendas. Such deceptive conduct of the press has not yet been deemed a grave violation of the code of conduct of journalism as issued by the Press Council of India because they have yet to formulate strict disciplinary action toward the defaulters.

Trial by press has been a common phenomenon in the recent times, which essentially violates the code of conduct of journalism. Investigative journalists are concluding the judicial judgment in the pre-trial period on half-baked incomplete and doubtful facts, which violates the fundamental rights of whose character is assassinated by the press. Press’s initiation to persistently pressurize the legal system to act in accordance with the agendas of the political pressure groups and feminists movement has lead to social inequality and injustice. And in order to conglomerate the sentiments of ill-informed people to support their own journalistic assault on the Governmental conduct, they sensationalize their own justification and blow the issue out of proportion. Judiciary is compelled to act in conformity to the expectations of the press in order to avert journalistic assault, irrespective of the nature and authenticity of the issue. Instead of setting a harmonious and communally peaceful environment, press has been indiscreetly disseminating noxious sentiments within the society for their own commercial benefits and appeasing political pressure groups.

Press has now disempowered the people of the country. Truth is buried and vested interested of pressure groups are accomplished. Disorder and chaos is pervading the society, and people are helpless. People who are part of the political agenda are empowered and people who are excluded from the political agenda are abandoned ruthlessly.

This is Indian Journalism. Who will stop them?

[iiim]

WELCOME BACK


Tussi Kitna bhi try karlo , PG ko chhodke koi ja hi nahi sakta

Keep Up the Good work.

[goyal_saurav]

Originally Posted by Pupil

Indian Journalism

Hey rebel, good to see u back...!

Originally Posted by iiim

Tussi Kitna bhi try karlo , PG ko chhodke koi ja hi nahi sakta

Very true. I did quit PG and it lasted only 5 days.. One simply cant leave PG..

[Mahip]

Originally Posted by goyal_saurav

I am nt sure, if i am takin it personal or over reactin. But then Mahip, i din expect this from u. Am still thinkin if u posted this.. Dude, knowin u, u shudn have done that..

If I find any user posting more about himself rather than the topic, then it is my duty to make him/her realize this in public. That's all I want to say abt that post.

Originally Posted by goyal_saurav

On top of that, u must realise that u bein a Mod are also the one who has to set standards for others and in particular newbies. I am sorry for takin it in public, but then all said and done, I din appreciate this post at all..!

Being a mod I'm not here to be appreciated by one and all. A member might like my post and other might dislike the same. If you like it say "Thanks" and if you dislike say "Groan". It's all part of being a mod. So just relax n enjoy.

Now no more personal talks on the thread, get back to the topic.


@goyal_saurav: Please don't keep any expectations from me, you'll then not be surprised by such posts.

[princeparas]

Originally Posted by Mahip

If I find any user posting more about himself rather than the topic, then it is my duty to make him/her realize this in public. That's all I want to say abt that post.

He hasn't posted anything about him yet. We are still asking for his intro.
You want us to believe your silly logic

Some erudite questioned his creativity so he replied.

[bindlishsonia]

[quote=Pupil;604033]Indian Journalism

Journalists are traders of Truth.

By using the word traders, dnt u thnk u r demeaning the whole institution?
They provide truth..they dnt trade it!
Evry profession has its pros n cons!

After the feminist movement in India, there has been a substantial growth of feminism in journalism.

i din kno dat!!

Women-related issues are given inordinate precedence due to which the quality of the press has significantly deteriorated. Increase in sophism has been observed with the increase in feministic journalism. The facts are getting distorted because of the preconception of the journalist, which is leading to perplexing transformation of the masses. Journalists are beginning to present facts in the fashion that appears appropriate to their own psyche. Social and National interests are getting defeated by the personal interests of the journalists. It has become an indispensable function of the press to cater to the political agendas of women groups. In the agenda of empowering women, feministic journalist are twisting the facts, exalting misconduct of women, amplifying crime against women, and infringing the rights of men. Male gender is criminalized and female-gender is labeled victims. People’s opinions are getting manipulated.

I have been readin ur posts since a long time ... didnt bother to get into a meaningless discussion n dats y stayed away -- bt dnt u thnk dere's a limit to evry thng.. Terming women liberalisation movement as a feminist movement is a way tooo much..
I dnt wana argue -- bt can u juss tell me where r these journalists going wrong -- when n where hav they published news wherein a woman has accused a noble man for sexual assault, harrasment, rape, dowry n wat nt -- u hav been writin since the age of 14..n i guess u will hav enough proofs to state dat dis has actually happened...or is still happenin -- juss postin one or two news clips wherein a woman has actually harrased a man doesnt change the whole scenario -- the fact remainin that in 99.99% are right -- n m sorry for that .01% -- i don wana waste my time arguing for this small proportion ( n puhleez -- nw dnt comeup n say -- dis percentage is rising )

Death sentence to Dhananjay in Kolkata -- a Rapist -- was it wrong? -- was it hyped -- do u thnk he shudnt hav been hanged?
Justice in Priyadarshini matoo's case -- was d person by ne means a noble man?
Jessica Lal was shot dead -- hasnt gt her justice yet -- is media wrong in propogatin the case -- who's the one who is diverging the whole case -- Jethmalani?
If TOI produces an article on Polyandry in Punjab -- is it wrong? -- y shud women b sold?-- why shud they sleep with some1 dey dnt want to -- getting the thngs out from remote places n raisin dem..isnt it right?
To talk bout the rights of Muslim women-- isnt it rite -- y shud they wear burkhas -- its nt mentioned ne where in their holy book-- dat they shud wear it..arnt men nt wrong in making their wives wear somethng which they dnt want to?
Was the female who gt raped in Dhaula kuan wrong in reporting to the police ? -- where has media gone wrong in telling the public bout the same ?-- i dunno bout other females --- bt yes -- my confidence has certainly gone up by readin dat females at last r reportin -- they r expressin wat they feel -- n dare a man do obnoxious stuff-- he will nt b spared! -- nw did u gt Mr pupil wat these newspapers r doing? -- By reporting each n evry incident they r makin us aware of the situations-- makin us aware of our rights!!

Social n Ntaional interest -- shud we sit at homes -- n cry fer wats been happenin to us -- is dis wat u call social interst ?
Nation -- democracy -- ?????-- of the ppl, fer tha ppl, by the ppl --- isnt it?
does people = only men?

its nt a Feminist movement -- Its a women's liberalization movement!!

These r juss few examples..newspapers hav nt been partial to women-- they have equally raised voices against Bharati Yadav -- The female who accordin to the Indian court is a key witness in Nitish Katara's case..

Press has now disempowered the people of the country. Truth is buried and vested interested of pressure groups are accomplished. Disorder and chaos is pervading the society, and people are helpless. People who are part of the political agenda are empowered and people who are excluded from the political agenda are abandoned ruthlessly.

This is Indian Journalism. Who will stop them?

Rather than blamin the whole institution i juss wana say get ur facts right -- i agree ppl can be manipulated through newspapers or fer that matter thru ne source of information-- bt u r educated enuff-- arnt u -- there is a thng called RTI -- go n use it to chk the authenticity of news -- n incase u thnk newspapers r manipulatin it-- drag dem to courts -- i kno thru this i m givin birth to another debatable topic -- which i rhnk Mr pupil is next gonna come up with --"Indian Judiciary ---?????????"

PS -- i wnt post again on this thread -- cz its goin nowhere -- frm my Nation -- it has gone into politics, feminism n dunno wat nt -- rather than sittin idle n wasting my time on writing stuff on wat has gone wrong with my country in the past -- i would love to work fer makin it a better place to live in...-- There's no pnt criticising wat has gone wrong, if u realy think that thngs r going wrong .. thn make them right!!


sonia

[Pupil]

Originally Posted by bindlishsonia

By using the word traders, dnt u thnk u r demeaning the whole institution?
They provide truth..they dnt trade it!
Evry profession has its pros n cons!

By saying that the word "trader" is a demeaning term, you are demeaning all traders. Press is not making news. Press is ony communicating the information on current affairs from the sourse to the destination. Technically, traders too do the same thing. Take good from one end to another end. I don't think anyone in the members would like your views on the word "traders".

Originally Posted by bindlishsonia

I have been readin ur posts since a long time nw ... didnt bother to get into a meaningless discussion n dats y stayed away - bt dnt u thnk dere's a limit to evry thng.. Terming women liberalisation movement as a feminist movement is a way tooo much..

You have written such a long comment and you still calling it as meaningless discussion. I think you only want to demean my post to pamper your ego. Of course you are free to do that.

If you think there is a difference between women liberalisation movement and feminist movement, kindly do let us all know about that. We too like to know the truth. If you don't know the difference, then it was a lame argument.

Originally Posted by bindlishsonia

I dnt wana argue - bt can u juss tell me where r these journalists going wrong -- when n where hav they published news wherein a woman has accused a noble man for sexual assault, harrasment, rape, dowry n wat nt -- u hav been writin since the age of 14..n i guess u will hav enough proofs to state dat dis has actually happened...or is still happenin

As far as knowing where the journalists have gone wrong, I don't have to prove anything because member over here are all intelligent and mature to understand on their own.

Originally Posted by bindlishsonia

-- juss postin one or two news clips wherein a woman has actually harrased a man doesnt change the whole scenario - the fact remainin that in 99.99% are right - n m sorry for that .01% - i don wana waste my time arguing for this small proportion ( n puhleez -- nw dnt comeup n say - dis percentage is rising )

Okay. first, I am not changing any scenario. I am only showing what is the scenario. The clip that I have pasted shows that women are misusing the laws to harass their husband. And you are saying that the fact remains that in 99.99% are right. Okay. Recently, Karan Thapar interviewed Honorable Minister of Women and Child Development, Renuka Chowdhury, on Domestic Violence Bill CNN-IBN Interview. It was quite ostensible that she was dodging Karan's hard hitting questions. She had no words in her mouth to justify her dangerously drafted bill. On that, Karan said, "The centre of Social research with regard to the anti-dowry law did a study after the Supreme Court judgment came out in August 2005 and it concluded that of every 100 cases brought under the anti-dowry law, 98 percent were false. On this Renuka agreed. Yes, she agreed. She said, “Its okay.” If the person who is supposed to admit, has agreed to these facts, I don't think I should mind if you disagree to these facts. Of course, question arises in the mind that why are you denying the truth. Karan continued to pester her to justify such gender biased laws. She got angry and she threaten Karan to slap Domestic violence act on him. The ingenious karan said, "You are only proving my point that this bill will be massively misused." Renuka was speechless. However, she changed the subject and took Karan back the rural areas where women are not protected. We all know what she was trying to do. She couldn't justify. Karan asked, "Is it alright if men suffer from this bill?" Renuka asnwered, "That is not such a bad idea." Would you call her a male-hater? Let the people decide.

98% could be a small proportion. But for me it is extreme. Yes, you might say that almost all the sections of the law are misused. Then in that case, I will say that if other laws too are misused at this proportion (98% cases are false), then the anti-dowry law must not be amended. Do you have any information that any other law is misused upto this extent? If you do, please let me know. I will then stop demanding amendments in anti-dowry law.

Originally Posted by bindlishsonia

Death sentence to Dhananjay in Kolkata - a Rapist - was it wrong? - was it hyped - do u thnk he shudnt hav been hanged?
Justice in Priyadarshini matoo's case - was d person by ne means a noble man?
Jessica Lal was shot dead -- hasnt gt her justice yet -- is media wrong in propogatin the case - who's the one who is deverging the whole case -- Jethmalani?
If TOI produces an article on Polyandry in Punjab -- is it wrong? -- y shud women b sold?- why shud they sleep with some1 dey dnt want to -- getting the thngs out from remote places n raisin dem..isnt it right?