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Re: CAT 2008: Quantitative Questions a Day 134 -Till end -> The Discussions - 11-10-2008, 08:43 AM

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Is 6*5*4*3 = 360 , the answer ? It seems very simple to me , don't know if I'm missing out on something
Oh , ok.. I realised my mistake but I didn't understand the above explaination. Please elaborate.
   
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Re: CAT 2008: Quantitative Questions a Day 134 -Till end -> The Discussions - 11-10-2008, 08:48 AM

no its not dat simple.have a look @ ur 11 th class permutation & combination book.u'll find what u r missing.
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Re: CAT 2008: Quantitative Questions a Day 134 -Till end -> The Discussions - 11-10-2008, 08:51 AM

I've a slightly different approach to solving this problem.
The question can be considered to be the number of ways of selecting the numbers (1,2,3,4,5,6) each appearing from 0 to 4 times.
So, n=4, r=6 and we can use our (n+r-1)C(r-1) funda to get 10C5 = 126.
=> Option (c)
   
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Re: CAT 2008: Quantitative Questions a Day 134 -Till end -> The Discussions - 11-10-2008, 08:59 AM

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Re: CAT 2008: Quantitative Questions a Day 134 -Till end -> The Discussions - 11-10-2008, 09:33 AM

if the order is unimportant then the numbers on the dice can be arranged in 4! ways and the dice themselves can be thrown in 4 ways.
therefore i think the number of different arrangements are 4*4! ways or 96 ways.
therefore the answer is option (a) . i think.
   
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Re: CAT 2008: Quantitative Questions a Day 134 -Till end -> The Discussions - 11-10-2008, 09:38 AM

horrible at permutations and combinations could someone please help and explain how exactly to tackle these kind of problems.
   
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Re: CAT 2008: Quantitative Questions a Day 134 -Till end -> The Discussions - 11-10-2008, 10:21 AM

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Four dices(6-faced) are thrown. How many different arrangements can one get if the order is unimportant(e.g. 2356 is same as 2635 or 1124 is same as 4211)?


(a) 96 (b) 108 (c) 126 (d) 156 (e) none of these
4 same => 6c1 = 6 ways
3 same => 6c1 * 5c1 = 30 ways
2 same, 2 same => 6c2 = 15 ways
2 same, 2 diff => 6c1 * 5c2 = 60 ways
4 diff => 6c4 = 15 ways. => total = 126 ways.


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Re: CAT 2008: Quantitative Questions a Day 134 -Till end -> The Discussions - 11-10-2008, 10:26 AM

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I've a slightly different approach to solving this problem.
The question can be considered to be the number of ways of selecting the numbers (1,2,3,4,5,6) each appearing from 0 to 4 times.
So, n=4, r=6 and we can use our (n+r-1)C(r-1) funda to get 10C5 = 126.
=> Option (c)
I think you meant 9c5 = 126. Anyway, that's a different way to do the question!


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Re: CAT 2008: Quantitative Questions a Day 134 -Till end -> The Discussions - 11-10-2008, 11:28 AM

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I've a slightly different approach to solving this problem.
The question can be considered to be the number of ways of selecting the numbers (1,2,3,4,5,6) each appearing from 0 to 4 times.
So, n=4, r=6 and we can use our (n+r-1)C(r-1) funda to get 10C5 = 126.
=> Option (c)
sir how is n=4??? if u r saying dat "each appearing frm 0 to 4 times".....dat sud mean n=5??
   
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Re: CAT 2008: Quantitative Questions a Day 134 -Till end -> The Discussions - 11-10-2008, 11:32 AM

after beating my head for arnd 1 hr i m wid this
if the order is unimportant n 1124 is same as 4211 den
the possibility of nos 1,2,3,4,5,6 can appear on the 4 dice in the following ways:

all dice having the same nos
=> 6c1 = 6 ways
having 3 same nos
=> 6c1 * 5c1 = 30 ways
having 2 same each
=> 6c2 = 15 ways
having 2 same& 2 diff nos
=> 6c1 * 5c2 = 60 ways
all 4 diff nos
=> 6c4 = 15 ways.
=> total = 126 ways.

so the answer is (c) 126
   
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