CAT 2008: Quantitative Questions a Day 101-133 - The discussions - Page 6
PaGaLGuY.com - The Everything of MBA, CAT 2008, GMAT, XAT, IIM
         Home          MBA Forums         PG Office Blog         Contact Us         About Us                  Jobs @ PG
Exclusive Bschool Content:      Interviews      B-School Watch     MBAs speak     Placements     GMAT & MBA Abroad      Form Notifications
» Sponsors






Go Back   PaGaLGuY.com - The Everything of MBA, CAT 2008, GMAT, XAT, IIM > Exam Resources > Quantitative Questions and Answers

Notices
Quantitative Questions and Answers Discuss Quantitative and other Math related questions. Post your math doubts and get it solved by the smartest brains this side of the universe !

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Re: CAT 2008: Quantitative Questions a Day 101-133 - The discussions
Old
  (#51)
fiction
has no status.
Trainee PaGaL
 
Status: Offline
Posts: 98
Thanks: 31
Thanked 20 Times in 15 Posts
Join Date: May 2008
Location: bangalore
Re: CAT 2008: Quantitative Questions a Day 101-133 - The discussions - 22-08-2008, 09:08 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by fiction View Post
f(x+f(x)) = x

put x = c + f(c)

f(c+f(c) + f(c+f(c))) = c +f (c)

f(c + f(c) + c) = c + f(c) ...............(since f(c+f(c)) = c)

f(2c + f(c)) = c + f(c)

compare with given. f(ax + b f(x)) = cx + d f(x)

a = 2 b = 1 c = 1 d = 1

b = c

answer option (1)

least time taken by me to solve a QQAD problem , ever
   
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Re: CAT 2008: Quantitative Questions a Day 101-133 - The discussions
Old
  (#52)
v-factor
needs some hope and confidence
Hardcore PaGaL
 
v-factor's Avatar
 
Status: Offline
Posts: 327
Thanks: 538
Thanked 206 Times in 70 Posts
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Bangalore
Re: CAT 2008: Quantitative Questions a Day 101-133 - The discussions - 22-08-2008, 09:27 AM

f(x+f(x)) = x----->1
and f(ax+bf(x)) = cx+df(x)----->2

Comapring the coefficients we get a=1, b=1, c=1 and d=0
So b=c and b=d+1

Putting x=x+f(x) in equation 1 we get
f(2x+f(x)) = x+f(x)
Comapring the coefficients with equation 2
a=2,b=1,c=1,d=1

So if we go on repeated substitution we see only b=c is true for all cases
Option 1)


A Proud Member - UDT'08
MOCKer or the MOCKed
http://www.pagalguy.com/forum/cat-an...ml#post1164034

My girlfriend asked me to be more affectionate.....now I have TWO.
   
Reply With Quote
Re: CAT 2008: Quantitative Questions a Day 101-133 - The discussions
Old
  (#53)
rohith_s_theone
The Biggest Loser on Earth
Expert PaGaL
 
rohith_s_theone's Avatar
 
Status: Offline
Posts: 103
Thanks: 30
Thanked 164 Times in 43 Posts
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Bangalore
Re: CAT 2008: Quantitative Questions a Day 101-133 - The discussions - 22-08-2008, 09:40 AM

We have to recursively substitute and compare

f(x+f(x))=x ;f(ax+bf(x))=cx+df(x) which means a=1 b=1 c=1 and d= 0
This eliminates option 3 (a=d)

Now substitute x= x+f(x)
f(x+f(x)+f(x+f(x))=x+f(x)
f(2x+f(x))=x+f(x) ---[2]
Compare with f(ax+bf(x))=cx+df(x)
a=2 b=1 c=1 d= 1
which eliminates options (2) b=d+1 and (4) atleast 2

Now we are left with options (1) and (5).
By substituting x=x+f(x) again in [2] we get
f[3x+2f(x)]=2x+f(x)
which suggests that option (1) is correct

ANS: (1) b=c
   
Reply With Quote
Re: CAT 2008: Quantitative Questions a Day 101-133 - The discussions
Old
  (#54)
IIM maniac
Is calm
Expert PaGaL
 
IIM maniac's Avatar
 
Status: Offline
Posts: 218
Thanks: 190
Thanked 206 Times in 77 Posts
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Pune
Age: 23
Re: CAT 2008: Quantitative Questions a Day 101-133 - The discussions - 22-08-2008, 10:29 AM

My attempt to this question..

Given : f(x+f(x)) = x --(1)
f(ax+bf(x)) = cx+df(x) --(2)
Comparing 1 & 2 we get a=1, b=1, c=1, d=0
Putting these values back to eq 2, we get f(x + f(x)) = x --(3)

Putting the value of x in eq 1,
f[(x+f(x)) + f(x+f(x))] = x+f(x)

But f(x+f(x)) = x
therefore eq reduces to f[x+f(x) + x] = x+f(x)
f(2x + f(x)) = x+f(x) --(4)

Comparing 4 with 2,
a=2, b=1, c=1, d= 1

therefore b=c, Option 1

Ameya
   
Reply With Quote
Re: CAT 2008: Quantitative Questions a Day 101-133 - The discussions
Old
  (#55)
prvineeth
has no status.
Expert PaGaL
 
Status: Offline
Posts: 164
Thanks: 46
Thanked 13 Times in 12 Posts
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Nagpur
Age: 21
Re: CAT 2008: Quantitative Questions a Day 101-133 - The discussions - 22-08-2008, 10:34 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by fiction View Post
f(x+f(x)) = x

put x = c + f(c)

f(c+f(c) + f(c+f(c))) = c +f (c)

f(c + f(c) + c) = c + f(c) ...............(since f(c+f(c)) = c)

f(2c + f(c)) = c + f(c)

compare with given. f(ax + b f(x)) = cx + d f(x)

a = 2 b = 1 c = 1 d = 1

b = c

answer option (1)

How can you put x=c+f(c) ?

here x is a variable and c is a constant.........

As per your assumption variable= constant
   
Reply With Quote
Re: CAT 2008: Quantitative Questions a Day 101-133 - The discussions
Old
  (#56)
madhulikasambit
has no status.
Trainee PaGaL
 
Status: Offline
Posts: 37
Thanks: 57
Thanked 4 Times in 2 Posts
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: coimbatore
Age: 22
Re: CAT 2008: Quantitative Questions a Day 101-133 - The discussions - 22-08-2008, 10:36 AM

please correct my approach if flaw....

given f(x+f(x))=x
now let f(0)=y
then f(0+f(0))=f(y)=x
now f(ax+bf(x))=cx+df(x)
so f(0+bf(0))=f(by)=bf(Y)=bx
hence b=c
hence option 1
could get just this....
please help me if my approach is wrong
   
Reply With Quote
Re: CAT 2008: Quantitative Questions a Day 101-133 - The discussions
Old
  (#57)
Fuzon
35
Hardcore PaGaL
 
Status: Offline
Posts: 288
Thanks: 93
Thanked 85 Times in 57 Posts
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Bangalore
Re: CAT 2008: Quantitative Questions a Day 101-133 - The discussions - 22-08-2008, 10:38 AM

Let f(x + f(x)) = x for all real x, and if f(ax + bf(x)) = cx + df(x), then which
among the following is necessarily true?

(1) b = c (2) b = d+1 (3) a = d (4) at least 2 of the foregoing (5) none


Comparing the given equations viz: f(x + f(x)) = x and f(ax + bf(x)) = cx + df(x),
we know a=1 b=1 c=1 d=0
Thus option three can be shown the door.

Now for the above compared values 1) and 2) are correct. So lets check for another set of values

Lets put x=x+f(x) and try to get the equation in the form of ax , where a =2

f(x+f(x) + f(x+f(x))) = x+f(x)
thus
f(x+f(x)+x)=x+f(x)

f(2x+f(x))=x+f(x) compare with f(ax + bf(x)) = cx + df(x)

a=2 b=1 c=1 d=1

Now here b!=d+1 but b=c still persists

jitni chaadar hove hai utne pair pasaar

Answer option 1) seems correct to me ...
   
Reply With Quote
Re: CAT 2008: Quantitative Questions a Day 101-133 - The discussions
Old
  (#58)
madhulikasambit
has no status.
Trainee PaGaL
 
Status: Offline
Posts: 37
Thanks: 57
Thanked 4 Times in 2 Posts
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: coimbatore
Age: 22
Re: CAT 2008: Quantitative Questions a Day 101-133 - The discussions - 22-08-2008, 10:45 AM

please correct my approach if wrong
   
Reply With Quote
Re: CAT 2008: Quantitative Questions a Day 101-133 - The discussions
Old
  (#59)
nhniesl
has no status.
 
Status: Offline
Posts: 1
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: mumbai
Re: CAT 2008: Quantitative Questions a Day 101-133 - The discussions - 22-08-2008, 10:45 AM

well this is my first post...i hope the solution is right

SOLUTION :

since f(x + f(x)) = x i.e x + f(x) = f_inverse(x) --------- 1

and f(ax + bf(x)) = cx + df(x)
i.e ax + bf(x) = f_inverse( cx + df(x) )
so ax + bf(x) = f_inverse( cx ) + f_inverse( df(x) )
ax + bf(x) = c * f_inverse( x ) + d * f_inverse( f(x) )

putting the value of f_inverse(x) from 1 in the above

ax + bf(x) = c ( x + f(x) ) + d * x

simplifies to ax + bf(x) = ( c + d )x + c f(x)

from the above by equating the coefficient of the variables it can be said that

a = c + d and b = c.

thus from above OPTION 1 is right

what say u ?
   
Reply With Quote
Re: CAT 2008: Quantitative Questions a Day 101-133 - The discussions
Old
  (#60)
hismajesty143
CAT 2009........
Trainee PaGaL
 
hismajesty143's Avatar
 
Status: Offline
Posts: 94
Thanks: 44
Thanked 37 Times in 18 Posts
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Kolkata
Age: 19
Re: CAT 2008: Quantitative Questions a Day 101-133 - The discussions - 22-08-2008, 11:00 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by gripened View Post
------------------------------------------------------
Quantitative Question # 102
------------------------------------------------------



Let f(x + f(x)) = x for all real x, and if f(ax + bf(x)) = cx + df(x), then which
among the following is necessarily true?

(1) b = c (2) b = d+1 (3) a = d (4) at least 2 of the foregoing (5) none

We have:
f(x + f(x)) = x ....................(i)
f(ax + bf(x)) = cx + df(x) .....................(ii)

Substituting the value of x from (i) in (ii) below we get:

f(ax + bf(x)) = c[f(x + f(x))] + df(x)

Since x is real the function is linear. Every linear function can be expanded in the manner below:

af(x) + bf(f(x)) = cf(x) + cf(f(x)) + df(x)

Now comparing the coefficient of the like terms on both sides we get the follwing two results:
  • Comparing coefficients of f(x):
    a=c+d
  • Comparing coefficients of f(f(x)):
    b=c
Hence option (1) is definitely true, which is the result obtained from above.
Option (2) is not true, as if b is to be expressed in terms of d we will get b=a-d
Option (3) is also not true as a=c+d
Hence, Option (4) is also not true.

MY ANSWER: OPTION (1)

PLEASE CORRECT ME IF MY EXPLANATION IS WRONG..



The only substitute to hard work is Smart work..

Join the CAT 2009 group:

http://www.pagalguy.com/forum/cat-an...2009-puys.html
   
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
CAT 2008: Quantitative Questions a Day 1 to 50 - The discussions Aarav Quantitative Questions and Answers 2815 20-10-2008 05:28 PM
Quantitative questions a day 101 to 150 - The discussions Aarav Quantitative Questions and Answers 1296 18-09-2008 01:58 PM
CAT 2008: Quantitative Questions a Day 51-100 -The discussions-Brought to you by SMOT Aarav Quantitative Questions and Answers 2585 17-09-2008 05:10 PM
Quantitative questions a day 51 to 100 - The discussions Aarav Quantitative Questions and Answers 1088 20-08-2008 09:51 PM
Quantitative questions a day 1 to 50 - The discussions pagalguy Quantitative Questions and Answers 1236 10-08-2006 04:18 PM

» Sponsors










PaGaLGuY.com is not responsible for the views and opinions of the posters.
PaGaLGuY.com is an Inzane Labs Private Limited production.
Hosted on servers powered by Neutral Web