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Re: CAT 2008: Quantitative Questions a Day 1 to 50 - The discussions - 07-05-2008, 09:23 AM

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Plug-in the value from the options. For x = 32 we have sin(76-32).sin(72) = sin44.sin(76+32).

Let's see who comes up with pure geometrical solution
what's wrong with a trigonometrical solution . geometry will make it easier, but the chances of it striking are lesser, but I know trigo will always work for me !!
   
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Re: CAT 2008: Quantitative Questions a Day 1 to 50 - The discussions - 07-05-2008, 09:32 AM

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what's wrong with a trigonometrical solution . geometry will make it easier, but the chances of it striking are lesser, but I know trigo will always work for me !!
Nothing wrong - even I follow the same approach and as you said thanks to the genius Loney. But purists may argue for geometrical solution and most of these solutions teach a thing or two more about geometry


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Re: CAT 2008: Quantitative Questions a Day 1 to 50 - The discussions - 07-05-2008, 09:39 AM

Let M be the point where the perp. bis. cuts DA

we can prove that MDX and AMX are equilateral => DX = AX (SAS axiom)
also let <DXA = 2x;

now, using sine law in ABX,
AB/sin(<AXB) = AX/sin(44)
or AB/sin(76-x) = AX/sin(44) ...(1)

using sine law in CDX,
CD/sin(104-x) = DX/sin(72)
use sin(180-x)=sin(x)

we get CD/sin(76+x) = DX/sin(72) ...(2)

now in 1 & 2 AB = CD and AX=DX so eliminate them

we have sin(76-x)/sin(76+x) = sin(44)/sin(72)

use componendo dividendo, then use identities: sin(90-x)=cos(90-x) and for tan(90-x)=cot(x)

upon simplification we get cot(x)=tan(58=cot(32)

so x=32
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Re: CAT 2008: Quantitative Questions a Day 1 to 50 - The discussions - 07-05-2008, 09:48 AM

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Let M be the point where the perp. bis. cuts DA

we can prove that MDX and AMX are equilateral => DX = AX (SAS axiom)
also let <DXA = 2x;

now, using sine law in ABX,
AB/sin(<AXB) = AX/sin(44)
or AB/sin(76-x) = AX/sin(44) ...(1)

using sine law in CDX,
CD/sin(104-x) = DX/sin(72)
use sin(180-x)=sin(x)

we get CD/sin(76+x) = DX/sin(72) ...(2)

now in 1 & 2 AB = CD and AX=DX so eliminate them

we have sin(76-x)/sin(76+x) = sin(44)/sin(72)

use componendo dividendo, then use identities: sin(90-x)=cos(90-x) and for tan(90-x)=cot(x)

upon simplification we get cot(x)=tan(58=cot(32)

so x=32
hence ans is (3) 64
I know its a typo
still to not confuse others
Sin(90-x)=cosx
   
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Re: CAT 2008: Quantitative Questions a Day 1 to 50 - The discussions - 07-05-2008, 09:54 AM

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The problem has been solved correctly by most of you in the 1st attempt. Very well done

Here is the official solution to 001 - we might change this if by end of the day someone comes with a better approach

Solution:

Given a(a+1) + b(b+1) + c(c+1) + d(d+1) = 312 => (a-1)^2 + (b-1)^2 + (c-1)^2 + (d-1)^2 = 312 - 3S + 4 = 256. Let a-1 = A, b-1 = B, c-1 = C, d-1 = D => we have non-negative integers A, B, C, D such that A^2 + B^2 + C^2 + D^2 = (A+B+C+D)^2 (the LHS <= RHS always) and can only be true if all but one number is zero => three among a, b, c, d are 1 and fourth number is 17.

Thus (3) holds true - (2) can guarantee the values for c and d. For a=b we have exactly 2 determinable values - thus (1) is not true.

=> choice (5) is the right answer

Hi Arav!
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i tried the problem and i feel answer should be (3)
as we all have got 17,1,1,1 is the only sol. and if a>b then all of them are uniquely determinable. a-17, b=c=d=1

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Re: CAT 2008: Quantitative Questions a Day 1 to 50 - The discussions - 07-05-2008, 09:58 AM

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Hi Arav!
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i tried the problem and i feel answer should be (3)
as we all have got 17,1,1,1 is the only sol. and if a>b then all of them are uniquely determinable. a-17, b=c=d=1

plz clear my doubt

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(2) is also correct so

(5) is the answer

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Re: CAT 2008: Quantitative Questions a Day 1 to 50 - The discussions - 07-05-2008, 10:06 AM

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