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Re: CAT 2008: Quantitative Questions a Day 1 to 50 - The discussions
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Re: CAT 2008: Quantitative Questions a Day 1 to 50 - The discussions - 20-05-2008, 08:56 AM

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Quantitative Question # 020
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For all integers x, y, f(x, y) is defined as f(x+2, y+1) = f(f(x+1, y),f(x, y)) and f(x+1, 0) = f(x, 1), then f(f(2, 3), f(2, 2)) =

(1) f(4, 5) (2) f(3, 3) (3) f(3, 4) (4) f(4, 3) (5) none of these
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Can you pls clarify whether both f(x,y) and f(x+1,o) are equal to f(x,1) or just f(x+1,o) ?
   
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Re: CAT 2008: Quantitative Questions a Day 1 to 50 - The discussions - 20-05-2008, 09:00 AM

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Can you pls clarify whether both f(x,y) and f(x+1,o) are equal to f(x,1) or just f(x+1,o) ?
Sorry , I got it .... I didnt read the quest properly

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Re: CAT 2008: Quantitative Questions a Day 1 to 50 - The discussions - 20-05-2008, 09:12 AM

I'm sorry for sending today's question late -> had forgot to set the timer of the NL.
Please read last year problems also and try solving that yourself 1st before looking at the solution.

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Re: CAT 2008: Quantitative Questions a Day 1 to 50 - The discussions - 20-05-2008, 09:29 AM

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Quantitative Question # 020
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For all integers x, y, f(x, y) is defined as f(x+2, y+1) = f(f(x+1, y), f(x, y)) and f(x+1, 0) = f(x, 1), then f(f(2, 3), f(2, 2)) =

(1) f(4, 5) (2) f(3, 3) (3) f(3, 4) (4) f(4, 3) (5) none of these
On plugging x=2 , y=2

we get f(f(3,2), f(2,2)) =f(4,3)

so f(f(2, 3), f(2, 2)) comes out to be f(3,4)

i.e option 3

(the above conclusion is based on following observation

f(3,2)= f(f(2,1) + f(2,0))
f(2,3)= f(f(1,2) + f(0,2))
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Re: CAT 2008: Quantitative Questions a Day 1 to 50 - The discussions - 20-05-2008, 09:47 AM

Hey,Please answer this:
Find the sum and no. of factors of 157! divisible by 18.

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b)37
c)38
d)39.

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Re: CAT 2008: Quantitative Questions a Day 1 to 50 - The discussions - 20-05-2008, 10:08 AM

i am gettin option 5...i.e none of these.

here's how:

f(x+2,1)= f( f(x+1,0) , f(x,0) ) (putting y=0 in d 1st function)
= f( f(x,1) ,f(x,0) ) (using 2nd function)
= f( f(x,1) ,f(x-1,1) ) (using 2nd function).........(3)


now, f(2,2) = f( f(1,1) , f(0,1) ) (x=0 n y=1 in function 1)
= f(3,1) (using 3 where x=1)

again f(2,3) = f( f(1,2) , f(0,2) ) (x=0 n y=2 in function 1).....(4)

f(1,2)=f( f(0,1) , f(-1,1) ) (putting x=-1 n y=1 in function 1)
= f(2,1) (using 3 where x=0)

f(0,2) =f( f(-1,1) , f(-2,1) ) (putting x=-2 n y=1 in function 1)
=f(1,1) (using 3 where x=-1)

Substituting d values of f(1,2) and f(0,2) in (4),

f(2,3)=f( f(2,1), f(1,1))
=f(4,1) (using 3 where x=2)

Thus, f( f(2,3),f(2,2) )= f( f(4,1),f(3,1) )
=f(6,1)

hence option 5.

Aarav plzz correct me if i'm wrong!


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Re: CAT 2008: Quantitative Questions a Day 1 to 50 - The discussions - 20-05-2008, 10:10 AM

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Quantitative Question # 020
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For all integers x, y, f(x, y) is defined as f(x+2, y+1) = f(f(x+1, y), f(x, y)) and f(x+1, 0) = f(x, 1), then f(f(2, 3), f(2, 2)) =

(1) f(4, 5) (2) f(3, 3) (3) f(3, 4) (4) f(4, 3) (5) none of these
f(x+2, y+1) = f(f(x+1, y), f(x, y)) - eq1
f(x+1, 0) = f(x, 1) - eq2

=>f(2,3) = f(f(1,2), f(0,2))

=>f(1,2)=f(f(0,1),f(-1,1))
=>f(1,2)=f(f(0,1),f(0,0)) deriving from eq2
=>f(1,2)=f(f(1,0),f(0,0)) deriving from eq2
=>f(1,2)=f(2,1) [reverse eq1.]

=>f(2,3) = f(f(2,1), f(0,2))

=>f(0,2)=f(f(-1,1),f(-2,1))
=>f(0,2)=f(f(0,0),f(-1,0))=f(1,1) reversing eq1
=>f(2,3) = f(f(2,1), f(1,1)) = f(3,2) reversing eq1

=>f(f(2,3),f(2,2))=f(f(3,2),f(2,2))=f(4,3) reversing eq1 again.

Hence (4) is right.


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Dhruva Sagar

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Re: CAT 2008: Quantitative Questions a Day 1 to 50 - The discussions - 20-05-2008, 10:18 AM

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For all integers x, y, f(x, y) is defined as f(x+2, y+1) = f(f(x+1, y), f(x, y)) and f(x+1, 0) = f(x, 1), then f(f(2, 3), f(2, 2)) =

(1) f(4, 5) (2) f(3, 3) (3) f(3, 4) (4) f(4, 3) (5) none of these
f(1,2)=f(f(0,1),f(-1,1))=f(f(0,1),f(0,0))=f(f(1,0),f(0,0))=f(2,1)
Now, f(2,3)=f(f(1,2),f(0,2))=f(f(2,1),f(1,1)=f(3,2)
Also, f(f(3,2),f(2,2))=f(4,3) =>f(f(2,3),f(2,2))=f(4,3)


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Re: CAT 2008: Quantitative Questions a Day 1 to 50 - The discussions - 20-05-2008, 10:24 AM

One box contains 8 cubes, and 6 spheres. A second box contains 6 cubes and 12 spheres. One object is transferred from the first box to the second box.
Probability that an object selected from second box to be a cube is?

Ans: 46/133

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Re: CAT 2008: Quantitative Questions a Day 1 to 50 - The discussions - 20-05-2008, 10:28 AM

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