Why Poor Acads?

[alan707]

Hey,

I got 99.85 percentile in 2006 cat (and all iim calls) with 2 years workex. but my BE marks are 60% and i'm grilled on that in almost every interview. i have prepared the following pitch in defense/explanation which is the actual reason also. pls. post in ur comments as to what can be improved here. also in case a guy gets low acads do the bschools not take him seriously?

• When you say 60% is poor, you are right. But compared to what? 80% or 90%? We do not have a 80% or 90% in our college for mechanical dept. The highest is 75% but still my marks are certainly below my potential
• The reason being in the year 2001 when I got into dce, I had also appeared for iit and missed it by a whisker. So I decided to give iitjee another try next year. As things went, I missed iitjee next year and also ended up with many backlogs in the first year in my dce. But the good thing is I managed to clear these backlogs within the stipulated time of 4 years, came out with 2 jobs in hand. Subsequently also did well in professional life.
• Also another thing I would mention though it is not a substitute for BE marks. I had appeared for GATE 2005 mechanical engg paper and got 94%ile there. So my mechanical is not all that bad!

Thanks in advance!

[the.bombardier]

Originally Posted by alan707

Hey,

I got 99.85 percentile in 2006 cat (and all iim calls) with 2 years workex. but my BE marks are 60% and i'm grilled on that in almost every interview. i have prepared the following pitch in defense/explanation which is the actual reason also. pls. post in ur comments as to what can be improved here. also in case a guy gets low acads do the bschools not take him seriously?

• When you say 60% is poor, you are right. But compared to what? 80% or 90%? We do not have a 80% or 90% in our college for mechanical dept. The highest is 75% but still my marks are certainly below my potential
• The reason being in the year 2001 when I got into dce, I had also appeared for iit and missed it by a whisker. So I decided to give iitjee another try next year. As things went, I missed iitjee next year and also ended up with many backlogs in the first year in my dce. But the good thing is I managed to clear these backlogs within the stipulated time of 4 years, came out with 2 jobs in hand. Subsequently also did well in professional life.
• Also another thing I would mention though it is not a substitute for BE marks. I had appeared for GATE 2005 mechanical engg paper and got 94%ile there. So my mechanical is not all that bad!

Thanks in advance!

ur first point sounds a bit on the aggressive side..mellow it down a little,n i think u got a valid point..
the second point:if ur report sheets dont show that u had backlogs,then i suggest u dont mention it..if ur report sheet does,even then i feel talking bout backlogs is kind of negative..
the third point seems fine..
u could also highlight any extra curriculars u were involved with..that would help a lot..
also if u can prepare some technical stuff properly,n show the interviewers that u r more knowledgable than ur marks suggest,that would be great..
these r my opinions,wait for others comments too...dont worry much,ur cat score is very good,n if u can manage the interview well,u should be through..
best of luck!!

[PGcalling]

Originally Posted by alan707

Hey,

I got 99.85 percentile in 2006 cat (and all iim calls) with 2 years workex. but my BE marks are 60% and i'm grilled on that in almost every interview. i have prepared the following pitch in defense/explanation which is the actual reason also. pls. post in ur comments as to what can be improved here. also in case a guy gets low acads do the bschools not take him seriously?

• When you say 60% is poor, you are right. But compared to what? 80% or 90%? We do not have a 80% or 90% in our college for mechanical dept. The highest is 75% but still my marks are certainly below my potential
• The reason being in the year 2001 when I got into dce, I had also appeared for iit and missed it by a whisker. So I decided to give iitjee another try next year. As things went, I missed iitjee next year and also ended up with many backlogs in the first year in my dce. But the good thing is I managed to clear these backlogs within the stipulated time of 4 years, came out with 2 jobs in hand. Subsequently also did well in professional life.
• Also another thing I would mention though it is not a substitute for BE marks. I had appeared for GATE 2005 mechanical engg paper and got 94%ile there. So my mechanical is not all that bad!

Thanks in advance!

i agree with ur point that 60% is nota bad.. there will always be people with 70 - 75% scores.. but that doesnt mean that ur score is bad.. i think if someone asks u questions on ur acads.. this is the point u need to get across.. even in terms of what the entire class scores u will still be better off than quite a few...

Also regarding ur backlogs, u do have a valid explanation as to why they were there in the first place.. if someone does ask u on it.. u can tell the positive side of it that is it hasnt affected u much and u probably are a better person because u took up the challenge to clear them before ur four years...

regards
Sriram

[HarshaRocks]

Well even I need to be ready with an answer to that question
You might like to PM some of these guys and know how did they manage

http://www.pagalguy.com/forum/464828-post297.html

http://www.pagalguy.com/forum/463782-post268.html

http://www.pagalguy.com/forum/464078-post274.html

http://www.pagalguy.com/forum/464171-post278.html

http://www.pagalguy.com/forum/464298-post286.html

http://www.pagalguy.com/forum/464309-post287.html

http://www.pagalguy.com/forum/60428-post2.html



Let us(including me first ) know the answers.

Btw,can't this thread be made sticky?

I have always believed that academic achievement is never a true reflection of your abilities(hope the IIM prof's think the same way)

[prof_calculus]

Originally Posted by alan707

Hey,

I got 99.85 percentile in 2006 cat (and all iim calls) with 2 years workex. but my BE marks are 60% and i'm grilled on that in almost every interview. i have prepared the following pitch in defense/explanation which is the actual reason also. pls. post in ur comments as to what can be improved here. also in case a guy gets low acads do the bschools not take him seriously?

• When you say 60% is poor, you are right. But compared to what? 80% or 90%? We do not have a 80% or 90% in our college for mechanical dept. The highest is 75% but still my marks are certainly below my potential
• The reason being in the year 2001 when I got into dce, I had also appeared for iit and missed it by a whisker. So I decided to give iitjee another try next year. As things went, I missed iitjee next year and also ended up with many backlogs in the first year in my dce. But the good thing is I managed to clear these backlogs within the stipulated time of 4 years, came out with 2 jobs in hand. Subsequently also did well in professional life.
• Also another thing I would mention though it is not a substitute for BE marks. I had appeared for GATE 2005 mechanical engg paper and got 94%ile there. So my mechanical is not all that bad!

Thanks in advance!

The question is - How important are acads for an interview like those at IIMs etc ?

If your acads are good;
you are (prima facie) taken as a sincere guy, who can take the rigours of studies and come out with flying colours.

If your acads are not so good or even bad:
You are (prima facie) taken as someone who either lacks potential or aptitude to perform at IIMs.

Imagine yourself as the authority at some institution, you will always like to get the best students from the available lot.

Now the second part:

Kindly see the italicised word (prima facie= at first sight). A person with bad acads starts the game at disadvantage. But this does not mean that you are going to lose the game.

If you can somehow convince the panel that despite having bad acads, you have all the qualities necessary to succeed in the rigourous training at any IIM (or any other good B school), you may end up there.

When you say 60% is poor, you are right. But compared to what? 80% or 90%? We do not have a 80% or 90% in our college for mechanical dept. The highest is 75% but still my marks are certainly below my potential

Still compared to 75 % , your score is not that good. You have mentioned it already.

The reason being in the year 2001 when I got into dce, I had also appeared for iit and missed it by a whisker. So I decided to give iitjee another try next year. As things went, I missed iitjee next year and also ended up with many backlogs in the first year in my dce. But the good thing is I managed to clear these backlogs within the stipulated time of 4 years, came out with 2 jobs in hand. Subsequently also did well in professional life.

Not a good excuse buddy. Taking a virtual drop (spoiled dce) and still missing IIT will not put you in good light. Think something more creative.

Also another thing I would mention though it is not a substitute for BE marks. I had appeared for GATE 2005 mechanical engg paper and got 94%ile there. So my mechanical is not all that bad!

This thing might a helpful. You have performed good in GATE. It should help you.

If you can prove through your job experience etc that despite having average acads, you are quite good and really sincere in whatever you do, it will sure help you succeed in GDPI.

All the Best.

[chahat_85]

hello this is chahat
preparing for 07 CAT. my acad is not good 10th=69%,12th=73.4% frm the state level board.
n grad. only 67%. will it effect a lot on getting admitted into a top b-school
I m a B.Sc graduate with no work ex.
i want a good top b-school. what r my chances plzz suggest me

[prof_calculus]

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[vinit121184]

hi 10th-88% 12th-77% BE-55% plz tel me how 2 convince PI panel abt
low marks in BE? no work ex.i hv my own reason but its not convincing.
i got very low marks in term work,orals n pracs even after performinf well.
plz help me.

[konqueror_vivek]

Originally Posted by chahat_85

hello this is chahat
preparing for 07 CAT. my acad is not good 10th=69%,12th=73.4% frm the state level board.
n grad. only 67%. will it effect a lot on getting admitted into a top b-school
I m a B.Sc graduate with no work ex.
i want a good top b-school. what r my chances plzz suggest me

Get a high percentile in CAT, and 67% is not bad, it is relatively a notch below when you talk of 70%+, but it is acceptable, if you could prepare well, and could show the panel that you have done several other things apart from academics during your engineering tenure.
Surely, a high score at CAT would enhance your chances.

[xcoolaryan]

Originally Posted by chahat_85

hello this is chahat
preparing for 07 CAT. my acad is not good 10th=69%,12th=73.4% frm the state level board.
n grad. only 67%. will it effect a lot on getting admitted into a top b-school
I m a B.Sc graduate with no work ex.
i want a good top b-school. what r my chances plzz suggest me

Dude, first concentrate on CAT'07, crack it first and then think about low acads