[Apurv]

Dear puys,

Most of you would have noticed that quite a few Admission Directors and Professors from various b-schools like ISB Hyderabad, SP Jain-Dubai & Singapore, SIBM Pune, SCMHRD Pune, MICA Ahmedabad and KJ Somaiya Mumbai are participating officially on PaGaLGuY.com and answering your queries about admissions.

It's time for the next step!

The purpose of this thread is to pour in all our feedback and suggestions on the quality of these threads, the quality of answers given by the officials, how we can help them answer questions better, where improvements can be brought in, etc. Next year, we plan to invite more b-schools on board officially but before that, it's time to review how it's been until now.

Following are links to the threads where Admission Directors are answering queries:

MICA Ahmedabad (Ask MICA Ahmedabad: Official Admission Query Thread featuring Prof Deval Kartik)

ISB Hyderabad (Ask ISB-Hyderabad: Official Admission Query thread featuring ISB's Admission Director)

SIBM Pune (Ask SIBM Pune: Official Admissions Query thread featuring SIBM's Prof Pranab Deb)

SCMHRD Pune (Ask SCMHRD, Pune: Official Admission Query thread featuring the SCMHRD Director)

KJ Somaiya Mumbai (Ask K. J. Somaiya, Mumbai : Official Admissions Query thread)

SP Jain Dubai & Singapore (Ask SP Jain Dubai & Singapore: Official Admission Query Thread)

Please write your experiences with using these threads, how it could have been better, how it helped you, how it didn't help you, etc.

Cheers

[ankit.madan]

Hi Apurv

Thanks a lot for starting a thread for queries answered by SCMHRD Pune (Ask SCMHRD, Pune: Official Admission Query thread featuring the SCMHRD Director) officials.
Helped me as i needed.
I understand that the answers related to cut-offs n calls are never concrete, but there were many other issues which were sorted out first hand and with surety.
Thanks Again.

[Apurv]

Originally Posted by boywonder82

U could mail them, but knowin govt officials in India , but u would be waiting all your life for the reply. Still its better not to leave any stone unturned at your end. !
As far as cutoffs are concerned, with 99.7 %ile last yr it would have been 131 and with jb closin at 175, its virtually impossible!
Sydenham kj somaiya welingkar closed at around 169, 168,167 so welingkar seems theoretically possible with an excellent gdpi though !! Assumin u have 4/6 in PAR u still need 32/34 in GDPI
There have been cases wherein it has been achieved , but those are by far few, but nonetheless possible

All the best for gdpi , May u suceed in your quest for ur desired college

Dear boywonder82,

Patrick is heading this thread and is taking the efforts to answer questions here. It would be appreciated if you do not intrude here and let him do his task.

Cheers,

[D CHOSEN ONE]

Originally Posted by Apurv

Dear boywonder82,

Patrick is heading this thread and is taking the efforts to answer questions here. It would be appreciated if you do not intrude here and let him do his task.

Cheers,

Hi apurv:::

i wanted to put forward my opinion that this is a public forum running for interest of public. so it doesnt matter that who is heading any particular post. if anyone ("boywonder" in this case) is trying to help someone you should not try to stop him, rather you should appreciate his efforts,being a part of this site.
this totally depends on opinion seeker's wish to follow the advice or rely on what experts are saying.
no one here can stop others from sharing their view,opinions,suggestions etc.
so please dont show biasness towards any particular person and let everyone participate.

[Apurv]

Originally Posted by D CHOSEN ONE

Hi apurv:::

i wanted to put forward my opinion that this is a public forum running for interest of public. so it doesnt matter that who is heading any particular post. if anyone ("boywonder" in this case) is trying to help someone you should not try to stop him, rather you should appreciate his efforts,being a part of this site.
this totally depends on opinion seeker's wish to follow the advice or rely on what experts are saying.
no one here can stop others from sharing their view,opinions,suggestions etc.
so please dont show biasness towards any particular person and let everyone participate.

Interestingly, this is your first post and doesn't seem like you're one of the affected people here to be speaking for others. Anyhow, I wouldn't stop anyone from posting in the normal CET/MAT thread. However, this thread was started with a specific purpose which should be honored.

Cheers,

[D CHOSEN ONE]

Originally Posted by Apurv

Interestingly, this is your first post and doesn't seem like you're one of the affected people here to be speaking for others. Anyhow, I wouldn't stop anyone from posting in the normal CET/MAT thread. However, this thread was started with a specific purpose which should be honored.

Cheers,

yup apurv this is my 1st post as i joined pg recently. but i am a regular reader on pg and now decided to participate in posts where i can contribute something.
although i am not affected it doesnt mean i cant be in future.so as people say "prevention is better than cure " i took a step for same.

we all honour the purpose of this thread and expect same from this site and its management.
so lets indulge in to a healthy discussion rather than pointing out who is answering whose query and at the same time waiting for a single person to answer.

i believe i am right and hope that no objections will be there by anyone now.

anyways thanks for considering my view and giving weightage to my participation.

[letsrock31]

Originally Posted by Apurv

Interestingly, this is your first post and doesn't seem like you're one of the affected people here to be speaking for others. Anyhow, I wouldn't stop anyone from posting in the normal CET/MAT thread. However, this thread was started with a specific purpose which should be honored.

Cheers,

Interestingly it isnt my 1st post bt yet i concur wid wot tat person said...
we shud really stick to d rules maintained for d forums....irrespective of the fact who one is posting...aftrall its all for MBA aspirants who wish to seek the guidance of experts out here(..who so evr he may b...)....n hence shall be done wid sheer spirit of camaraderie keeping personal or professional motives/intentions apart.

Moreover apart from being a separate thread its more of a PUBLIC forums so d utmost is to safeguard d decorum of the community rather than infringing the line of demarcation in deciding the extents of wot is liberal n wot Outrageous.

May b the thread is governed/created by/for one specific person.....bt wots d ULTIMATE motive??..TO HELP STUDENTS in adorning their career....so a d advise of one may/may not guarantee 100% satisfaction to evryone....sometimes....d advise of one can b good for someone....n d advice of another can b better ....so on a more general note, i think...WE(..d public/students..) shall decide whom to listen .... n aftrall its HELP provided gratis so one shud not hav problem that ONE is helping oders. Atleast we wud like to listent to evryone n thn decide whose counsel is more helpful/appropriate to us. !!!!!!!After all one is HELPING us...



EX :

Originally Posted by chirag_mba
Hey Patrick and Ashutosh thanks for helping us Out here !!
I am Mumbai university student , have given Cet and also applyin thru All India Seats
I have got 98.7% (Very Less) in MAT but i have 99.7% in ATMA , The problem is i have given MAT as the All India Exam. Please help i wanted to know can i change my All India Exam from MAT to ATMA , Also how good is the Score 99.7% for Jb and Syd Please help me with this ....

See people r THANKING both of them...tat means they r intrigued in listening to the cousel of both of them over d same....so let d two( or as many as present ) work for d interest of people widout reminding who has made d thread n for whom is it designated...???

I hope not ther isnt any contradictory point in wot i stated being an active member of the forum n d privileged to share my view point....."d RIGHT to speech" shall be maintained for evryone, living a democratic environment.

[hitu_rambo]

I think u r doing a good job
But not allowing someone from replying to a post is not good.
If you are good enough people will follow you and I think this being a public forum one should not stop anybody.
None the less important thing is that everyone gets the right information..

[Apurv]

Originally Posted by letsrock31

Interestingly it isnt my 1st post bt yet i concur wid wot tat person said...
we shud really stick to d rules maintained for d forums....irrespective of the fact in wch one is posting...aftrall its all for MBA aspirants who wish to seek the guidance of experts out here(..who so evr he may b...)....n hence shall be done wid sheer spirit of camaraderie keeping personal motives/intentions apart.

Moreover apart from being a separate thread its more of a PUBLIC forums so d utmost is to safeguard d decorum of the community rather than infringing the line of demarcation in deciding the extents of wot is liberal n wot Outrageous.

May b the thread is governed/created by one specific person....bt still tat doesn't guarantee 100% satisfaction to evryone....sometimes....d advise of one can b good for someone....n d advice of another can b much better than d previous one....so on a more general note, i think...WE(..d public/students..) shall decide whom to listen .... n aftrall its HELP provided gratis so one shud not help problem that ONE is helping oders. Atleast we wud like to listent o evryone n thn decide whose counsel is more helpful/appropriate to us. !!!!!!!

I hope not ther isnt any contradictory point in wot i stated being an active member of the forum n d privileged to share my view point....."d RIGHT to speech" shall be maintained for evryone, living a democratic environment.

Dear letsrock31,

This is gonna be a long post but I will try my best to put things in perspective here. I've put in a lot of effort to gather my thoughts, so I'd appreciate it before you go through the complete post well before replying .

A couple of months back, the MAT-CET section was nearing death in the number of posts and participation and it was worrying. There were endless questions but no answers. Patrick was called in because there were a large number of questions being asked that were going unanswered. To that effect, I would give credit to him for getting life back in here to some extent. To his credit, I wouldn't want to steal his thunder for what he has done. Before this thread, Patrick has been helping people on the forums for years without much self-plugging for his institute.

boywonder82 on the other hand has been found spamming esquaremc all over the forum and if you check his posts, you will find a lot of moderator edits. I do not discourage boywonder82 from posting on PG, but as an Administrator I wouldn't want to endorse users who do not differentiate between outright selling on the forums and helping out people. This is bad for the forum's culture overall and we don't want PG to become a place where every other dude spams.

I am not going all out to endorse Patrick and his brand here or disbrand esquaremc. All I am saying is that we have to give people credit for what they contribute to the forums. PG gets its edge due to the content on it. Unfortunately, a lot of people begin to misuse the freedom under the garb of 'helping out people'. Either the forum can maintain its independence and content quality or come to a point where posts have advertisement links all over and lose its charm.

Another thing - as you guys might have observed, we have been trying to get some 'official' people into the forums since last year. We had the Directors of SIBM, SCMHRD, ISB, MICA and Career Launcher's Arindam Lahiri and IMS's Gejo Srinivasan to bring in an expert's point of view, parallel to the normal student activity running on the forums. Patrick's thread is part of that. The problem we face on the forums is that bschools and coaching institutes keep taking their chances at spamming in student-driven threads, which as users we don't like one bit. Official threads such as these help to isolate commercial entities on the forum in a separate thread (Any commercial entity is free to open a thread with us (it's a free service) provided we are comfortable working with them and know that they will not misuse it for blatant marketing).

Now imagine what happens if we open up these threads to everyone - first, the thread becomes redundant to the usual student-driven thread, and secondly, the next time I go to a coaching institute to ask them to come on the forums to put in an expert opinion, they are going to say - "Dude, the users on Pagalguy won't let us answer and another coaching institute will hijack the thread!"

It is going to make the moderators' jobs very difficult! Please see things from our point of view and help us manage the forum . At the end of the day, there is still the other CET thread which other people can participate in, so it is not like nobody is being allowed to post and answer questions. So if you do not want to listen to Patrick's answers, that's fine and you can use the Mission CET (Mission Cet 2008) thread!

Hope I have been able to put things into perspective.

Cheers,

[nikhilkulk]

Hello,

Lets make things simpler around here. There are currently two main active threads dealing with CET right now
1. http://www.pagalguy.com/forum/mat-st...et-2008-a.html (Mission Cet 2008)
2. http://www.pagalguy.com/forum/mat-st...et-expert.html (PaGaLGuY.com brings CET-expert Patrick D'souza - Ask all your Maharashtra CET doubts!)

No.1 thread is like all other threads in PG where we help out each other, share our knowledge, ask queries about things we want to know and answer queries about things we know. No. 2 thread is a bit different from that. Here we have specifically engaged someone who can authoritatively speak on the subject. We have invited Mr Patrick D'souza to help out students with the help of all his experience and knowledge acquired in the before-during-after phase of CET. So Mr Patrick is like a guest to us who is helping us in dealing with CET. Now wouldn't it be a little rude on our part if we were to interrupt him now and then and answer queries addressed to him. If anybody is posting on this thread i think we can assume that they are looking for a answer from Mr Patrick himself. Otherwise they could have merrily continued on Thread No 1. I have no problems with people helping out fellow puys. That is the very principle PaGaLGuY works on, but there is a time and place for everything and it has to be respected

So I would request people to leave the answering of queries on this thread to Mr Patrick and help in making Thread No1 one of the better threads on PG. So in that way we could have two separate high quality products CET students can distinguish between and look forward to