Welingkar Batch Of 2005-2007 (pgp E-biz And Pgdbm)

[adits_pg]

Originally Posted by mukta_1982

hi everyone

yesterday was my cet gd pi
gd went so well but pi went so bad that in both the cases i cannot explain u my experience
but i have got through welingkar's pgpebiz prog mumbai campus
but yaar i am not from the technical background
i did MA eco and have a work ex of accounts executive in a company that's it now that the course structure of pgpebiz is more than pgdbm and its technical what suld i do
please suggest sumthing
never did computer course as well in my life
please suggest sumthing
regards
mukta

read the info abt the ebiz course on this thread thti had posted a couple of days ago.


- Adi

[saneguy]

I think a lot of people have apprehensions about placements. One has to also keep in mind that we will be graduates in 2007. The job market could be a little different by then. And going by the current trend it definitely is expected to be better than now

And as far as I know Welingkar's placements have been improving year on year.

[adits_pg]

Originally Posted by saneguy

I think a lot of people have apprehensions about placements. One has to also keep in mind that we will be graduates in 2007. The job market could be a little different by then. And going by the current trend it definitely is expected to be better than now

And as far as I know Welingkar's placements have been improving year on year.

Thanx saneguy. Just one more point, if u screw up the interview, whos to blame, the college or u??

On a more sober note, do u think everyone at the IIMs gets the fantastic salaries u read abt. Its normally less than 1% of the class. The same trend is across all b-schools.


- Adi

[saneguy]

Originally Posted by adits_pg

Thanx saneguy. Just one more point, if u screw up the interview, whos to blame, the college or u??

On a more sober note, do u think everyone at the IIMs gets the fantastic salaries u read abt. Its normally less than 1% of the class. The same trend is across all b-schools.


- Adi

yup agree with you completely. If we screw up the interview the college cant be blamed. The companies come for recruting. If they find you are good enough they would very well make sure you get a fat package.

It all depends on the students. Besides yea i very well know that we just read about 1-2% of the guys getting huge pay packs. But most people get a decent pay pack.

All in all I am defintely joining Welingkars and I am confident of ending up with a decent placement as well. Whether through the college's ability or my own...either way its gonna work out fine. My cousin's passed out from Welingkars about 4 yrs ago and hes also confident about Welingkar's placement so am not much worried

I definitely as of now have faith in welingkars placements. Besides I think one has to personally gear up before the placements

[navin_rebirth]

hi everyone, its been really tough to come to a decision abt taking up pgpebiz at welingkar, however after the day i met up with adi and the rest of their gang.......i was a lot more clearer abt. the course. to put in a nutshell, the course is just like any other 'MBA' apart from the fact that it has like 4-5 subjects in each sem on IT. now wot i would really like to tell y'll is tht i would want to go in for hardcore marketing and advertising and i beleive if i'm gonna look long term it makes more sense to invest in an ebiz programme rather than the run-of-the mill vareity dished at hordes of B-schools. letz start looking at ourselves as managers who will be in great demand say 5-10 yrs. from now.

anyone still not sure abt. ebiz take a dekho at this book .POWER SHIFT-Alvin Toffler

if you are still unsure of taking up this course........then plz don't u r not really cut out for it.

[Arjun_M]

Originally Posted by saneguy

Welcome mate,

I dun even remember wat date my gd/pi was ... let alone the batch

Anyways coming back to your queries. Well I dont know how helpful would a management degree be for a student interested in designing stuff. Management course basically teaches you the management part of a business.

In your engg you'd probably know how to fix a machine. But MBA is a little different. It will teach you nothing bout particulars but would rather teach you more about HOW TO RUN A BUSINESS...how to manage people ..time ..production ..finance...etc etc..

MBA for engg students is good as they understand various aspects of business.
But you are looking for a dynamic job. MBA as per me would more or less get you a desk job. The course is definitely not completely theoretical. Lots of projects n stuff is usually given.

About why I wanted to take up management education, there are several reasons. Some very typical- no job, add something to my resume, something different from boarding a plane to the US (there's one too many).

But on a serious note, I was thinking about the job profile. I want something different from the dull, dreary, boring jobs offered in IT, BPO and banking (although I wouldn't mind getting a job in L&T). Something with a big project attached, or very dynamic, or just different from the usual desk job. The real inspiration was that show on CNBC- Young Turks- where they profile young businessmen who don't just 'blend in', but stay true, follow their interests and just enjoy what they're doing. I was expecting something along those lines- dynamic, interesting, innovative. MBA's don't have to have a desk job all the time. Of course, they started their businesses, with a lot of opposition at first.

Moreover, I was also considering what they teach in business schools, and how. In four years of engineering education in Mumbai University, I have to say, everything was blinkered- there is no room for anything out-of-the-box, and that may be the same with most of these post-grad MS courses. There was far too much to study, too little practical activity, and just taxed the students heavily, without giving the more innovative and creative ones much room to use their skills. Seniors tell me that management is a good place for such creative, innovative, off-the-road types- maybe that's what the panelists wanted when they conducted the interviews, rather than the conservative, by-the-book lot. In a few words, I thought this is something I may be good at. You mentioned projects- that's what I would like.

Since I am interested in designing, particularly cars and bikes, one career I would like was featured on NDTV, where a group of students design fittings for motorcycles to give them a new look- I too sketch car/bike designs quite often, existing ones and new. Would any of you recommend applying for such a course rightaway, or first get an MBA, then apply for it, part-time? Another interest of mine is advertising and marketing- I had applied for marketing as an area of specialisation.

[saneguy]

Originally Posted by Arjun_M

About why I wanted to take up management education, there are several reasons. Some very typical- no job, add something to my resume, something different from boarding a plane to the US (there's one too many).

But on a serious note, I was thinking about the job profile. I want something different from the dull, dreary, boring jobs offered in IT, BPO and banking (although I wouldn't mind getting a job in L&T). Something with a big project attached, or very dynamic, or just different from the usual desk job. The real inspiration was that show on CNBC- Young Turks- where they profile young businessmen who don't just 'blend in', but stay true, follow their interests and just enjoy what they're doing. I was expecting something along those lines- dynamic, interesting, innovative. MBA's don't have to have a desk job all the time. Of course, they started their businesses, with a lot of opposition at first.

Moreover, I was also considering what they teach in business schools, and how. In four years of engineering education in Mumbai University, I have to say, everything was blinkered- there is no room for anything out-of-the-box, and that may be the same with most of these post-grad MS courses. There was far too much to study, too little practical activity, and just taxed the students heavily, without giving the more innovative and creative ones much room to use their skills. Seniors tell me that management is a good place for such creative, innovative, off-the-road types- maybe that's what the panelists wanted when they conducted the interviews, rather than the conservative, by-the-book lot. In a few words, I thought this is something I may be good at. You mentioned projects- that's what I would like.

Since I am interested in designing, particularly cars and bikes, one career I would like was featured on NDTV, where a group of students design fittings for motorcycles to give them a new look- I too sketch car/bike designs quite often, existing ones and new. Would any of you recommend applying for such a course rightaway, or first get an MBA, then apply for it, part-time? Another interest of mine is advertising and marketing- I had applied for marketing as an area of specialisation.

Tough call Arjun... but if u ask me I'd rather play safe. I'd first get a MBA degree then look for a course that I need for designing etc... but thats just me...

[adits_pg]

Originally Posted by Arjun_M

About why I wanted to take up management education, there are several reasons. Some very typical- no job, add something to my resume, something different from boarding a plane to the US (there's one too many).

But on a serious note, I was thinking about the job profile. I want something different from the dull, dreary, boring jobs offered in IT, BPO and banking (although I wouldn't mind getting a job in L&T). Something with a big project attached, or very dynamic, or just different from the usual desk job. The real inspiration was that show on CNBC- Young Turks- where they profile young businessmen who don't just 'blend in', but stay true, follow their interests and just enjoy what they're doing. I was expecting something along those lines- dynamic, interesting, innovative. MBA's don't have to have a desk job all the time. Of course, they started their businesses, with a lot of opposition at first.

Moreover, I was also considering what they teach in business schools, and how. In four years of engineering education in Mumbai University, I have to say, everything was blinkered- there is no room for anything out-of-the-box, and that may be the same with most of these post-grad MS courses. There was far too much to study, too little practical activity, and just taxed the students heavily, without giving the more innovative and creative ones much room to use their skills. Seniors tell me that management is a good place for such creative, innovative, off-the-road types- maybe that's what the panelists wanted when they conducted the interviews, rather than the conservative, by-the-book lot. In a few words, I thought this is something I may be good at. You mentioned projects- that's what I would like.

Since I am interested in designing, particularly cars and bikes, one career I would like was featured on NDTV, where a group of students design fittings for motorcycles to give them a new look- I too sketch car/bike designs quite often, existing ones and new. Would any of you recommend applying for such a course rightaway, or first get an MBA, then apply for it, part-time? Another interest of mine is advertising and marketing- I had applied for marketing as an area of specialisation.

Yes, mgmt. courses do hv projects but also deadlines. U can be creative but can u defend it in front of an audience who may not accept ur views?? On the other hand, if u need time to be creative, 4get it. u'll get arnd 3 hrs. to come up with a business plan and it may not be u alone. What u essentially learn is how do u work together with others while at the same time show ur individuality.

If u hv such plans, go ahead and do them, u dont need a mgmt. course and they may look good on your resume but are u prepared to take that risk. If no, then play safe and do the program and develop these ideas on the side.

Besides, from the multitude of ideas tht u hv given here, how many are feasible tht u can do as a career?? u may get new ideas by the time u graduate. So the strategy tht everyone here can follow is yeah do what is asked but think and understand y it is done so. if u hv a better idea bring it fwd and defend it.

The institute tries to make the environment like tht in a co. if u dont like it too bad.


Here i wud like to quote a much maligned signature on another thread
"When u are being raped, dont fight but enjoy it". Another way to look at it is u may not enjoy it but are u going mope all ur life tht u hv been raped or get on with ur life?? The choice is urs.

I am sorry if this sounded harsh but understand the idea behind it.


- Adi

[adits_pg]

Originally Posted by navin_rebirth

hi everyone, its been really tough to come to a decision abt taking up pgpebiz at welingkar, however after the day i met up with adi and the rest of their gang.......i was a lot more clearer abt. the course. to put in a nutshell, the course is just like any other 'MBA' apart from the fact that it has like 4-5 subjects in each sem on IT. now wot i would really like to tell y'll is tht i would want to go in for hardcore marketing and advertising and i beleive if i'm gonna look long term it makes more sense to invest in an ebiz programme rather than the run-of-the mill vareity dished at hordes of B-schools. letz start looking at ourselves as managers who will be in great demand say 5-10 yrs. from now.

anyone still not sure abt. ebiz take a dekho at this book .POWER SHIFT-Alvin Toffler

if you are still unsure of taking up this course........then plz don't u r not really cut out for it.

who says hardcore mktg. and advt. do not use technology now??

Although u guys hv relied on me for info and thanked me for it. At the very basic, it seems i hv marketed the courses at welingkar to y'll using the board. I think this board classifies as using technology.

- Adi

[optimystix]

After going thru the discussions above, I am tempted...almost compelled to post my thoughts here.

Plz guyz,...DO NOT BASE YOUR DESCISION OF ACCEPTING OR REJECTING AN ADMIT BASED ON THE SALARIES OFFERED.

i know that it is extemely difficult to decide upon your B schools, especially when you are at the cross roads of your career. But it is important to understand that a B school experience gives you a lot more than just salaries.

1. As already pointed by someone earlier in this thread, the salaries quoted by even the IIMs are not what all 120 odd students get. It is just 5-6 students who end up getting the dream salaries that are hyped by the media.

2. A B school does a lot more than just placing you in a good company. The entire B school experience and the experience of working in a team and creating synergies tranforms your personality and your thought process.

3. These are the learnings that eventually make or break your career...You could start with a 7 lac per annum and be stuck there for 3-4 yrs or you could start wiyh 1.5 lac per annum and grow to 8 lacs in two years...It is entirely upto you and what you can make of what you learn at your B School.

Welingkar is a gr8 place to be in........and I am not saying this coz it has 100% or gr8 placements.....I am saying this coz I have seen the transformation the welingkar experience has brought in few of my friends.......

Dont bother abt salaries...PLACEMENTS HO JAAYENEGE.

Just go ahead and enjoy your B school experience and try and learn as much as u can..

Enough of the GYAAN.

All the Best