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30-03-2005, 07:31 AM

hi friends,

i dont think the thread is meant for the discussion that has ensued .... lets not get off topic .... well this was a doubt i posted a few days back ... and others too have the same doubt ... esp the non delhiites ....today being 30th hopefully we should see more activity from the seniors now!!!!!!! so posting again ... hoping for a quick reply

secondly, it also mentions tht in case the last exam has not been passed from DU we will need to fill up the univ admission form to get a roll no. So does tht mean tht the candidate will have to be there in person since this kind of a form will need the candidate's signature somewhere or the other i am sure!


someone plz clarify this issue asap.

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Smile Inperson Visit at FMS Recommended - 30-03-2005, 01:08 PM

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Hello! Friends !

Thanks! to "Vincentian" to change the topic of discussion "FMS Vs XLRI" which was both inappropriate and boring !!!
Aptly said by Puneet , that "CAPABILITIES DECIDES UR DESTINY" , so lets forget all this and join the respective B-Schools with full heart and spirits !!!
Now coming to the point of going to FMS in person . I would strongly advise pupils to go to FMS for their admissions "IN-PERSON" . It is strongly recommended for students who would like to know more about hostelling and facilities and I have heard that FMS seniors hold "WELCOME-CAMPS" to help students clear their doubts . So I think going there would help solve many of their doubts .

Cum'mon Friends arents you all enthusiastic to go to FMS ???? I am at WL-4 and am showing more energy to go than a confirmed candidates ....!

So "LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOO"
"Dekho" kahin deair[Hindi for 'Delay'] na ho jayeeeeeee!! Lol

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Hello! Friends !

Thanks! to "Vincentian" to change the topic of discussion "FMS Vs XLRI" which was both inappropriate and boring !!!
Aptly said by Puneet , that "CAPABILITIES DECIDES UR DESTINY" , so lets forget all this and join the respective B-Schools with full heart and spirits !!!
Now coming to the point of going to FMS in person . I would strongly advise pupils to go to FMS for their admissions "IN-PERSON" . It is strongly recommended for students who would like to know more about hostelling and facilities and I have heard that FMS seniors hold "WELCOME-CAMPS" to help students clear their doubts . So I think going there would help solve many of their doubts .

Cum'mon Friends arents you all enthusiastic to go to FMS ???? I am at WL-4 and am showing more energy to go than a confirmed candidates ....!

So "LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOO"
"Dekho" kahin deair[Hindi for 'Delay'] na ho jayeeeeeee!! Lol

Regards,
Siddhartha

Hi Sid,

I completely agree with you ... even I am eager to visit FMS personally ... but with office going on its going to be tough to get leave etc etc

And also my parents were travelling to delhi next week so was wondering if they could do the fee filling on my behalf!

Has anyone called up FMS for the same yet???

-Shiv

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help guys - 30-03-2005, 09:48 PM

HI ALL WANNA BE FMSites.

guys i need ur help in deciding which inst. to join among
fms, xl(bm), mdi

i m a delhiite lukin for specialisation in FINANCE.
also studied in DU(SRCC) for 3 years
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Question 30-03-2005, 11:05 PM

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HI ALL WANNA BE FMSites.

guys i need ur help in deciding which inst. to join among
fms, xl(bm), mdi

i m a delhiite lukin for specialisation in FINANCE.
also studied in DU(SRCC) for 3 years
Ok.. so here is a thread which will be a good read for you - http://www.pagalguy.com/cat/showthread.php?t=3830 (XLRI vs FMS)

In Addition, can someone set up a poll asking who all are not joining FMS? would be very useful for those on the waiting list.
   
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Hope this will end FMS vs XL comparision!! :) - 30-03-2005, 11:17 PM

Courtsey-Career launcher

For those who have the luxury to choose the B Schools

The dilemma starts after one has cracked the written examination. Is it gonna be B or C, or the fight is between SPJ and MDI, or FMS is better than L. And the biggest wisecrack of them all - is A really the big bully and calls the shots?
First of all, give some time to yourself and pat your back for having achieved such a big feat. Not one but multiple calls from the big heavens of higher management education in India. And then once the reality has sunk in get on with the task and find out which is the one for you.
Career Launcher has clustered the institutes in four categories with all the institutes in one category being clearly distinct from the other, so if student has a choice between the institutes of two different categories, he/she knows clearly which category he has to go. If the choice is between institutes of the same one category, what should be the deciding criteria for selecting one institute over the other…read on.

Cluster Analysis
The B-schools are arranged into four clusters wherein the best institutes are in Cluster 1 and the lesser institutes go to Clusters 2, 3 & 4.Thus, if a student has a call choice between institutes in Cluster 1 and Cluster 2 he could go for the Cluster 1 institute. Similarly Cluster 2 institute should be preferred to Cluster 3 and Cluster 4 institutes.
In case a choice has to be made between two institutes in the same cluster, then refer to the intra-cluster analysis given below.

Cluster 1
IIM-A, IIM-B, IIM-C, IIM-L, XLRI, TISS
In this cluster, if one has a call from IIMA, he/she should not even think twice and should straight away go for it. In this cluster the big confusion is for the people who are hanging between B and C. Also the confusion is between L and XLRI. As far as TISS is concerned, one hardly has anything to worry about on two counts; one, it is second only to XLRI in the field of PM & IR and moreover they conduct their exam in the month of June by which time one would have already deposited fee with the possibility of zero refund.
Specialised courses : If you are clear of your specialization and if it is any of the following two specializations, your decision is that much more easier.
PM & IR: If one has got call from XL for PM & IR, and is interested in doing PM & IR, he could go for XL even if one has calls from IIMs and there should be little scope for doubts.
Agriculture and Rural Management: If this is the your field of action and you have got a call from PGP-Agriculture of IIMA along with some other good calls, we don't have to tell you what to do or do we have to?

XL (BMD) and IIM-L
IIM-L could be preferred over XLRI for the following reasons:
The name is the game : The biggest advantage that L gets is the IIM tag and hence the reputation and host of other factors like support of other IIMs, the support of government, and recognition of the industry. Also it has got one of the best administrators as its director, Dr. Preetam Singh, who made quite a name as the director of MDI. So L scores a bit above XL here.
Placements : L scores over XL on this parameter. The placements at XL are by and large restricted to Marketing and Finance and the placements in Systems are negligible.
Specialisation : If you want to specialize in systems, don't go for XL as they may not be able to get the critical batch size required for a good specialisation. As far as L is concerned all specialisations are possible.
In HR, XL scores in bounds and bounds (no leaps even) as it started muu…cchh earlier than L. However despite that it has still not been able to make a name in foreign placements, which L has done quite well in such a short span. But placements are not a limitation for both of them. Overall L scores over XL here.
L Plays (read studies) It Rough and Hard (Not that XL is a cakewalk) : L has got one of the most rigorous of curriculums and one of the most demanding study schedules, it beats even IIMA at that, and a sleep of 4-5 hours in a day is luxury at L, at least in the first year. So if you have the guts and nuts for it, go ahead and take your plunge or play (study) it safe and join XL.
Mind you, XLRI ( BMD ) is as good as IIMs when it comes to normal MBA.
Other things that may matter to you :
- Jamshedpur has the TATAs on every breath including its name while L possibly has a varied and better industry interaction.
- Lucknow is the hot bed of politics, being the capital of the most politically sensitive state in India, UP.
- The campuses are not a problem with either of them.
- As far as climate is concerned, both the places witness extremes of weather.

Cluster 2
The place under the sun: IIM-I or K > SPJ > FMS > MDI > JBIMS
Specilialised Institutes : IRMA, NITIE, IIT-B, IIT-D, IIFT, MICA.

If and only if you don't have a call from any of the Cluster 1 institutes, then should you come to Cluster 2. This includes the specialised institutes also. So even if want to go to advertising, and have calls from IIML and MICA or XLRI and MICA, you should take up IIML or XLRI.
This analysis applies to those people who have to choose between two or more Cluster 2 institutes.
As far as other institutes are considered, here it follows.
IIM-I
Being an IIM, this obviously wins the name game and scores above rest of the non-IIM institutes. It has an excellent infrastructure and a small batch size ensures the personal attention of faculty. This apart, Indore is an industrial town and hence the opportunities for institute - industry interaction are better. Also it is fully residential and placements are becoming better and better with each year. It also had the distiction of the highest average salary (higher than IIMA also). The obvious disadvantage is its being the last in the family of IIMs and hence alumni are not in a position to drive the placements. Students who get calls only from IIMI should join and not wait for next year for a better institute.
IIM-K
This also gets the advantage of being an IIM. However it suffers on account of its location, as Kozhikode has few industries worth its name. So, it might not be able to provide industry-interaction in higher dosages. It has also shifted to its own campus from the earstwhile operating campus of REC, thus scoring better in terms of infra. It has got one of the better libraries amongst the IIMs. Again the students are not as high as the other four older IIMs. There are three advantages of this; (a) this ensures that even if there are not many students, the ones who are there are good, (b) this enables faculty to give personal attention to students and finally, (c) it is never difficult to place a smaller batch irrespective of the job market in a year.
SPJ
The institute should be given preference above FMS. It is not affiliated to Mumbai University and is an autonomous institute. The reputation of the institute has been building up extremely well. The institute has several pluses to its credit. The biggest advantage is its location in Mumbai. The second advantage is its being fully residential and finally the structure of course it provides, it is very focused and you have the specialization from the beginning.
FMS
This is the best institute for general MBA in non-IIMs despite all its handicaps. It was an early starter and hence has a very strong alumni base, which makes its placements one of the best in the country. However it suffers on various counts like, it is not a fully residential program and hence unlike the IIMs here, the learning process is limited to college hours only. It doesn't have good infrastructure, hence not an ideal place for systems and IT related specialization. It is not an autonomous institute and hence suffers from the slow processes of university and is not very fast and flexible to incorporate changes. Inspite of these handicaps, the placements are excellent and hence it figures higher than MDI or JBIMS of this cluster.

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30-03-2005, 11:20 PM

Here is the link to the full article...

http://www.pagalguy.com/cat/showthre...7&page=1&pp=25 (Multiple calls-Which to choose.)


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30-03-2005, 11:26 PM

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HI ALL WANNA BE FMSites.

guys i need ur help in deciding which inst. to join among
fms, xl(bm), mdi

i m a delhiite lukin for specialisation in FINANCE.
also studied in DU(SRCC) for 3 years
If you want to go for Finance....XL should be your obvious choice!!

Read my earlier post..

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30-03-2005, 11:59 PM

Hi seniors,


Can u please throw some light as of sal figs, job profile and companies visited, foreign placements etc for SYSTEMS at XLRI.. i have heard its not so good...

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Same Discussion....Same Post - 31-03-2005, 12:12 AM

1. CAT % = 99.25 (KI)
2. XAT % = 99.94
3. FMS
4. XLRI (BM)
5. MDI
6. SPJ

My first post at PG yay!!!!!!!

My order of preference (arrived after a lot of consultation with seniors at IIMs and ofcourse reviews on CL and IMS websites)

XLRI > IIM I > IIM K > SPJ > FMS > MDI

Now i know a lot of ppl would be up in arms but i think XLRI is a cluster 1 insti while all others are cluster 2 Instis. Things might change if i get in IIMK or IIMI. Somehow cant just turn a blind eye to the brands of IIMs. Will be tough call chosing between IIMs and XLRI but other than that no problems whatsoever in chosing XLRI over MDI and FMS

For reference

http://www.imsindia.com/intrac/stude..._bschools.php3

http://www.careerlauncher.com/pegasu..._b_school.html

These are professional institutions run by IIM almuni, and i believe their reviews couldnt be far off the mark.

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