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Re: Tiss- Hrm& Lr 2009-2011 - 17-03-2009, 12:10 PM

OK so finally the day arrived when I was back in TISS campus again for the great day.....and incidentally, my 400th post would also be my TISS GD/PI experience, so emotional about it:sleepy:

Reached at the new campus first floor at around 10 A.M. when we were randomly(or in some order which TISS guys know) distributed into 4-5 groups for GD. The first person in my group was absent, and I was second. So in the GD, I was effectively the first person sitting in one corner (location advantage, could see all).

GD
This year we have a HR Case Study in the GD unlike last year.
My group's case was around Raju, immediate assistant who had been indisciplined in the past and is showing improvements in the last 3 months. Its time for appraisal, so what would you do?

A very smooth GD, everybody could speak, no fish market at all, infact 4-5 min before GD we were silent!!!!!!! I mean never in any of my past experiences have I seen the group coming to a conclusion and summarizing and having no more points to say

We brought up a number of points about internal/external factors, taking the middle path, setting the right precedent, having org learnings, taking seniors help, how to reward,taking feedback from his co workers.....

I had quite a number of good points which I could easily put in, and at one point of time some people who were speaking were looking at me only rather than the whole group....please don't do that.....its a group discussion not one to one....on the whole quite a good GD for me as well as the group, and dare I say I would give myself 5/5 for the GD....was very happy and was looking forward to the PI....

PI
The GD was over by 11 AM, but waiting for PI was like a torture!
My PI turn came at around 5:15 PM, and those of us left had already been drained out of energy and were tired

My panel was 3rd Panel with 3 gentlemen(G1, G2, G3) and 1 lady...one old gentleman(G3) was the same one from the GD panel......

The lady was just observing, and din't ask anything...I had a different kind of pen in my pocket, and at one time when I was looking at her explaining something she was looking at my pen

G3: (reading my DAF)...ok so you have done so and so from this and this college...tell me something about your college (meanwhile he was scanning through the form)...
Me: (caught unaware, and thinking- he said "tell me something about yourself or my college") so I clarify with him and then start telling abt my degree, subjects I learnt, a specialization I took in my 8th sem(Industrial Engg) etc etc...

G3: Ok and then you have been working in Infy....what do you do there...
Me: Told.....

G3: Ohk, so you are doing good....why HR now? And please dont give a repetitive answer...
Me: Tell my reason.....the panel seems satisfied

G3: What do you think about teamwork? Is it must?
Me: Sir for most of the professions yes...for some like freelancing, journalist writer, consultant- maybe not but it is....some grilling around that.....

G3: What is so special about Infy?
Me: It is one company which gives you opp beyond regular work...to explore and grow.....CSR/talent nurtuting etc etc etc...some more around that

G3: How did you come to know abt TISS?
Me: Tell abt my doctor sister wanted to do MHA for which I searched net and found abt TISS when I was in college....and so on...G3 says good....

G1: Now he takes over.....What are the qualities of an HR manager?
Me: Tell....fairness/sensitive but not emotional/take right decisions/networking/of course comm skills....he seems satisfied.....

Now came the turn of the middle guy, G2- and I guess he was waiting to pounce upon me:new_evil:...perhaps then started the bad part of my PI, maybe the stress part too......
G2: What do you think can be the challenges you would face during placements?
Me: :whatthat: Now that is a bouncer..but composing myself, tell him that seeing the present recessionary scenario might not get a placement at alluppydog:

G2: Then what would you do..or some other q I dont remember the exact words...
Me: I would get into research...and maybe later search for job/placements....

G2: See thats what...ur coming here for placements no!
Me: Feeling that he is trying to trap me in this discussion about Placements etc- a typical B School trait TISS hates!....so say no sir, I am genuinely intd in this field and passionate abt it

G3/G2: How can you convince that you are intd in HR?
Me: Tell them abt the work I have done at office....tell them that this is primarily related to Employee Relations, and I have no idea abt other aspects which I would learn and complement with my experience...

G2: He talks something abt lateral placements...then he says again- u dint get the q- framing again- what are the challenges you can face after 2 years of ur HR course...
Me: Giving up, this guy is hell bent to screw me...so I say- I haven't given much thought to this aspect yet thinking ki ab to kuch aur pocho and get away from this topic.......

G2: Hell bent to screw me more, he asks- ok give me some insights abt HR in your workplace...
Me: Sir, do you mean issues?

G2: No, I know you can talk abt issues, but Insights
Me: Again perplexed!...give an example abt a guy not good at communication.....

G2: Put it in one word/sentence like communication in this particular case....and?
Me: Talk abt imp of motivation in driving people sometimes....my mind is already going numb and I was unable to think much...

G2: Ok....kind of gives over to G3.....
G3: What are your interests?
Me: Teaching...tell abt something which I did in office....and Reading

G3: Some books?
Me: Non fiction....at that point I was getting black and was finding it difficult to recollect the names....my voice was also not that enthu.....said HR value proposition..and Stay Hungry Stay Foolish....

G2: (:( back with his stingy self!) Ok what is a value proposition
Me: say something around there...

G2: Ok leave that, tell me what is your value proposition? Why should we take you?
Me: Sir I am passionate abt HR

G2/G3: No no not that....your value to TISS?
Me: Sir I can share my experiences with other people and learn from them...I have a learning attitude....

G2/G3: Thank you and a very good evening (now the way they addressed in the end was wierd!)

And I came out....with a very unpleasant experience...this was the first time in any of my interviews, I was sad.....unhappy with my performance, could have done better Would give myself 2/5:whatthat:

They grilled me on everything under the sun about whatever HR qs one can prep for....
Why HR? Why TISS? Convince abt ur HR inclination? Qualities of HR? Insights abt HR in your org?Teamwork?

Let's see what happens with the result....All the Best to the rest of you....
My suggestion- In GD be cool, everyone has ample time...don't dominate or speak excessively.....
In PI be pretty sure about what you answer...try to convince them with full force....rest is destiny....

One piece of info seniors shared: Out of 53 seats, we all know that around 35-38 are for GEN....and they intentionally try to keep a balanced girls:boys ratio. Effectively, we boys(and girls too) are after 18-20 seats:rockon:


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Re: Tiss- Hrm& Lr 2009-2011 - 17-03-2009, 12:35 PM

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Thought... U do and say whatever U want to, but I ll write my own destiny. I am not so spoonfed that I ll join MH. aise hi MH/PH ke liye beth gaya, qualified ho gaya then what is my mistake? Rather it is my credibility to qualify in all 3. Am I right?
While you have all the right to take decisions and chose your course in life, but don't you think you attended the HR interview because of its placements than compared to PH/MH and not just an interest in this field??
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Re: Tiss- Hrm& Lr 2009-2011 - 17-03-2009, 01:04 PM

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While you have all the right to take decisions and chose your course in life, but don't you think you attended the HR interview because of its placements than compared to PH/MH and not just an interest in this field??
No Offences Meant, just my thoughts
Dear friend

Thanks. Perhaps U can see I have not mentioned about any kind of placements. I have also not mentioned all the reasons in my post for which I want HRM. And yes definitely I can say that any one should get into that course which really interests him/her. So please don't take it otherwise.

All the best to you for your forthcoming GD/PIs.
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Re: Tiss- Hrm& Lr 2009-2011 - 18-03-2009, 10:36 AM

My gd/pi experience :
17th march,10 am.
GD: Case study. Revolved around Bhaskar who comes 2 work usually drunk n 1 day hits his supervisor under d influence of alc. Went very well...d panel had warned us b4hand dat trying 2 dominate will invite negative marks...d group was well informed n there was not a single moment of dullness / stagnation...
PI:was the last 1 b4 lunch.
Panel of 3, 2 males,1 female.
Questions ask were mostly profile based...m an mbbs, so why medicine to hr? hav i applied 4 ne othr prog in tiss?(no) why not mha? Is this my 1st attempt(it is) ..They seem 2 find my face familiar...How will i implement it in hethcare?Den d lady asks me abt medical tourism in india,
Pt bed ratio..dif betn public,pvt&corporate hospitals n re of hr in dem..ansd all..
lady askd hw serious r u abt hr?
I sed VERY serious..or else i wud hav appld 2 othr courses as well

Overall:I m satisfied wid my perfrmnce..n i hav been honest.Bt as de say,tiss only selects u if de c u fitng it...& it fitng u..kipng fngrs crossed!


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Re: Tiss- Hrm& Lr 2009-2011 - 18-03-2009, 05:47 PM

my gd/pi experience

my gd/pi was on 16th..
first they had the gd..2 member panel. 7 people in the group.the case study was a lazy, but intelligent employee starts working hard, three months before his annual appraisal..as a manager how would u handle his appraisal..group was good. came out with varied points..but our summarising could have been better..overall decent gd..

and then the loooooooong wait..my gd finshed at around 11:30
and at 5:00 my pi turn came....i went in..there were 4 ppl..an elderly person,a curly haired faculty,another faculty and a lady..the elderly person started by asking to describe myself and I answered..then he asked why hr and I said my reasons..this went on for around 7-10 min..during the whole time the curly haired faculty was observing me.and after 10 min he started with his qs..he asked me about my insights I got from connecting hr to my company and I said that..and then the turning point came
He asked me this case study..he is a leader of a terrorist org and he want to recruit a suicide bomber.what all he should look..i started off saying that he should look for a guy who believes in his ideology and in between I smiled and said it was an amusing case study..from thrrrrrrr it was all kool..they were all relaxed..then he asked does IT indeed reduce costs to the company..i said about obama and how his tax cuts are not going to reduce outsouring because of the huge costs IT saves for india..and a few other things..and they were all smiling ..then other questions were asked and all were smiling and laughing.
then they said..nice talking to you ..hope u had a good time..and I said it was a pleasure talking to u all and I had a great time especially with the terrorist q..more laughs..
now tht no of seats for guys is just 15-20 ..so however good u do u still cant tell..so keeping my fingers crossed
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new thread - 19-03-2009, 07:46 PM

hey all
to make it easier let's share our GD/PI experiences here:

http://www.pagalguy.com/forum/other-...ml#post1454001 (TISS GD/PI experiences 2009-11)



all the best for results!

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Re: Tiss- Hrm& Lr 2009-2011 - 19-03-2009, 07:51 PM

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Re: Tiss- Hrm& Lr 2009-2011 - 20-03-2009, 09:17 PM

my pi experience

today[20th] began on a great note with m being somewhere on time ....
i had my interview scheduled at 10...at the main campus....[its jst so awesome]
we were asked to wait in class no 5...
and then an orientation frm a senior [mr joy mukherjee ....thanx a lot]
of masters in health admin...
was really good....

i was among the first batch of 10 students to be called out for the interview....
mines was the second panel...
after a long wait of two hours..and nyc chit chatting and making friends...
i was called in for the "big thing"

the panel i hope believed in gender equality as there were two guys nd two ladies stationed in the nycly lit room...[mind it awesome view]

there was this oldie....[i was told ...he was the hod....of media nd culture ],a really sweet smiling lady..,a visibly bored lady[i doubted how she would be at da end of da day].nd a cool dude...kinda hippy..loved his hair do...

neways after a short greeting and giving million dollar smiles...we started...

the oldie: so miss nitisha...u are from mumbai right??.....is it the frst
time ur coming to tata institute...

moi: ya i have been here earlier for the form submission and the exam
as well...

the sweet lady:how did u find the insti...u liked it

moi:yes mame..it has a positive vibe to it...i would love to be a part
and parcel of the campus life here....

the oldie:so u look up2 mr prahlad kakkar and mr rajdeep sardesai..
dont u think u are in for a wrong course..

moi: sir i dont wana restrict my horizons to a certain stream of media
like advt or journo...but wanna get familiar and taste diffrent soils
of media like video production ...nd which institute other than
tiss would assist me hon ma skills...nd give me a great start in
the field of ma intrest ...

now there were *smiles* nd more *smiles* in da panel..

the sweet lady:so nitisha y media..when ya applied for hr as ur frst
preference wat would u select if ya were called in and
selected for the both...

*i was stumped*

moi: i would prefer hr...mame tiss being one of the premier institute
in india...with a goodwill of its own...nd more over the media
course is a new addition jst 3 yrs old...so i wud prefer facing the
known devil rather than the unknown 1....

* more smiles..unending smiles*

the hippy studhhkk..nyc ans..wat about feminism..whats ur take on
it

*mois...clean bowled*

moi:ya asking me about hardcore feminism...sir..

the hippy stud: no jst plain feminism wats ur take on it....

moi:sir i dont support feminism..i believe in gender equality if a guy
deserves being there and getting that he should..rather than being
towards a woman....

*giggles this time*

the hippy studkkk...wats ur take on reservation than...

moi:sir ......i believe in equality....i dont support reservation...i would
say people should be entitled to wat they deserve and devoiding
some1 from that would mean devoiding some1 meritious enuf
from the rite to study or get a job...nd thats the reason our
country is laging behind....no reservations and equal rites would
mean deserving people get the rite opportunity ....

* more smiles*

the lady in distress now took her chance...

the bored babe:wats ur take on the 26/11 coverage by media...

moi:mame..the media was lineant in their approach toward the issue on
the whole...the way they portrayed the issue created a chaos
among the crowd..painted a wrong picture....in the mind of
people...nd blah blah blah...

*more smiles...nd smiles..*

than a small greeting session...and mind it the bored babe gave the biggest smile....

the oldie was pleased to talk 2 me..the sweet lady was flashing her million dollar smile..the hippy guy...bid m a bye...nd the bored babe..was still in her smiling mode...

i think the smiling bug passed on 2 moi...nd i came out flashing a biiiigggg smile...

i dont bother about the results ..wateva they may be...but i was satisfied and happy with ma performance...
nd being interviewd by stalwarts in their own field...
in nycest place on earth at that moment...

hope u guys have a nyc interview as well..

the results would most probably out on 7th aril..keep ur fingers crossed...

no harm in thinking till than that ya selected...no...
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Re: Tiss- Hrm& Lr 2009-2011 - 25-03-2009, 12:05 PM

GD/PIs are over, but hardly 5 experiences on this thread....come on puys, please post your experiences here! It would also benefit the next year TISS aspirants.......


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Re: Tiss- Hrm& Lr 2009-2011 - 25-03-2009, 01:52 PM

Hello Puys,

My TISS interview for HR was scheduled on 20th march....

Had my GD at 10:45 AM.
It was a case study about a Branch manager who has taken over a sick BankBranch. Employees of that Branch are highly demotivated, the bank has no proper infrastructure in place and its financial records are down since last few years..what would you do if you were in place of that manger?

My PI started at around 5:00 in the evening....The whole of our group was totally exhausted..infact I took a small nap in the classroom.
In our group the average time for the PI was around 8-10 minutes, with one guy having his interview in just 1 minute!

There were three people,with one constantly observing you...one Old prof and a middle aged jovial person..

The following questions were asked:
1. why after 5 years you suddenly wake up and plan to do you MBA, that too in HR? (I have 5+ years work ex)
2. Tell Us about yourself?
3. Tell us about the HR structure in your organisation? who heads it?
4. What are your Hobbies?

Overall itlasted for 10 min....I personally do not feel satisfied after the interview..anyways, this was the last interview for the season...lets hope for the best!!


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