[rudraksh123]

Originally Posted by study_hard

No one here asked to completely ban smoking. Instead people envisaged upon the fact that smoking must be there but in any case it mustn't adversely affect the non-smokers. This 60 year old restaurant owner got cancer just because of people who used to smoke in her restaurant. So just because of the fact that tobacco industry sustains a huge volume of population we can't justify smoking. Every problem has it's alternatives and it's high time we start thinking about the same.
High revenues should in no way come in the path of healthy life of passive smokers.

China, India and Brazil.. all 3 r devoloping countries... especially china n india.. n the tobacco obviously is one of the prime contributer towards revenue.. so it does matter..! and then why only smoking? wht abt the pollution caused vehicles?? doesnt that matter?? 1st put a bann on all the old vehicles.. there a lot of things which can be banned before thinking of banning smokin...

[poojadatta]

@rudraksh

First of all congrates ( 200 post on 201th page pe aapka phela post; Off Topic )

everyone has states there point you too have stated your point and its valid... its not for topic or against topic... if u say they are asking to ban smoking than from your post u are saying smoking should not be banned completely its not about banning or not banning its about take step to make it more organized and less hazard..

take it easy guys its discussion not debate (No offense meant)

Lets switch to today's topic...

[rudraksh123]

Originally Posted by poojadatta

@rudraksh

First of all congrates ( 200 post on 201th page pe aapka phela post; Off Topic )

everyone has states there point you too have stated your point and its valid... its not for topic or against topic... if u say they are asking to ban smoking than from your post u are saying smoking should not be banned completely its not about banning or not banning its about take step to make it more organized and less hazard..

take it easy guys its discussion not debate (No offense meant)

Lets switch to today's topic...

thanks..

and..

sure.. :-)

[study_hard]

Originally Posted by poojadatta

@rudraksh

First of all congrates ( 200 post on 201th page pe aapka phela post; Off Topic )

everyone has states there point you too have stated your point and its valid... its not for topic or against topic... if u say they are asking to ban smoking than from your post u are saying smoking should not be banned completely its not about banning or not banning its about take step to make it more organized and less hazard..

take it easy guys its discussion not debate (No offense meant)

Lets switch to today's topic...

Ditto
It's not about banning or not banning. And true... smoking was never banned due to the large chunk of revenue it generates. No country can survive w/o revenues. But that doesn't mean that we give a clean chit to smokers. Banning smoking at public places would immensely help non-smokers.... and smokers... they'll still manage smoking somehow or other
Take a common example, when we use a public transport say auto rickshaw and see the driver smoking. Do we raise a voice? No....
But the point is that with the new law in place we can if we want to. It's not just about banning smoking it's also about empowering non-smokers. As far as smoking is concerned it's your personal decision but smoking in public... come on you don't have a say in others' health.

Will get back to today's topic in a while...

[rudraksh123]

Originally Posted by poojadatta

@study_hard
Great thanks dude
Today's topic
IS PUB CULTURE ACCEPTABLE IN INDIA?

From what happened in Mangalore is unfortuante
The reason given by them for performing such activities were they had
information that drugs and illegal things were carried out, second reason
was they was against the girls being westernize and going to the pubs
according to them this was against Indian tradition.

Now a day such individual group first in Maharashtra and now in
karnataka are have lot of courage to carry out such horrible events which
I think is not acceptable in India. If they have any such information
they could have informed police and would have let them handle the case
instead of they taken law in there hand. Secondly how are they having so
much courage to take law in there hand so they have some support from the
strong entity else how can they perform such
heinous act in public without any authority. Again when govt say
we will discuss that means not before few years.

Regarding India getting westernized and girl loosing Indian tradition...
if that’s the case they should have raised there voice long back... may be
6-7 years back at that time where were they? Besides they were hitting
this girls cruelly is that an Indian culture?

Basically "Pubs" are not bad, but pubs doing some illicit work than they
are wrong. But to stop them private group taking law in there hand is
wrong. There should be a proper procedure to do this. Just performing
such acts won’t help... And on that was it really a reason they wanted to
attack this place

Pugys takes?

It was indeed very unfortunate what happened.. And as usual it was carried out by few useless elements in the society.. Such elements exist everywhere and its the duty of the people as well the govt to put such elements behind bars..

What worries me is the Govt. view on this. Yesterday we saw news flashin.. Ministers stating.. "We are not gonna accept pub culture in Karnataka.." ... have they jus forgotten bengaluru??? I mean cmon.. along with a software hub.. its a pub hub too.. Its just that dirty politics have already began with this issue.. As pooja pointed out.. there is a huge support for such elements by political parties.. corruption to the core..!


Lemme get to the point of whether it should be accepted in India or not.. well.. I guess we have already accepted it.. and there are even rules n regulations in place.. If a pub does an illegal activity.. it definately need to shut by govt. They are not implemented is a different issue.. The prob in India is that we rely on references for everything.. Everything has some EXTERNAL SUPPORT!..

Regarding India getting westernized and girl loosing Indian tradition.. well India getting westernized.. there is no harm in that untill and unless we dont cash in for the wrong things.. There is quite a lot of good things which we can learn from western countries..
Girl loosing Indian tradition.. well its completely upto the girl.. its her choice.. Everyone is a unique individual and has the right to select they way they want to live.. Why is it never questioned.. A guy loosing Indian tradition? Even Guys have Indian tradition rite?

Reason for this senseless act : can be anything.. from some insane behaviour to may be stoppin illegal activities in a pub.. but more importantly I c it as a dirty game of politics.. nothin else..!!
Solution.. well.. Education.. not the poor people.. but the politicians..! (there is a lot to discuss but it will be off topic here..)

[poojadatta]

Yup true points....
For time being they are making this hue and cry about not allowing pub culture... but they are not going to ban it might be they will come up with certain rule....
Within few months all will settle down... basically the problem is its state mangaged by people who are hardcore believer of hidustava and those who did were hindutva supporting organization they will not upset them coz they don't want to lose there power there and so for time being they will carry on this but sooner this will die but would say it would be good if they come up with some rules and law.
Besides pubs in such city attract lot of crowd, tourist and corporate world (indirectly) and on that pub are basically in India is for alcoholic drinks and this industry give quite a good amount so they will not ban this culture but would implement some rules. Which could be a good option... and ya politician need primary education

[anuragpol21]

seniors please please help me out i want to reschedule my sys gd pi wch is on 7th as i ve anthr gd on tht day...i ve tried mailng n callng thm bt no one is replyng so plz help me wat to do...

[rudraksh123]

Originally Posted by anuragpol21

seniors please please help me out i want to reschedule my sys gd pi wch is on 7th as i ve anthr gd on tht day...i ve tried mailng n callng thm bt no one is replyng so plz help me wat to do...

Hi Puys..

This might be a lil off topic..

For all those FELLAS who are coming here for help regarding RESCHEDULING..!!

1st of all.. is rescheduling really possible??? if thats the case.. then why wud SCIT or for that matter any college decide on any dates n give it out in the admission process?? they wud have rather ask you all.. when are you comfortable in answering the GD/PI...
Anyone can jus ask for a reschedule jus like that on a day he/she is comfortable with.. even if he doesnt have anyother gd/pi..
Colleges put up the full admission procedure with dates jus so that everyone can schedule their leaves according (especially work-ex people.. n also students..)..
If a college starts rescheduling as per an aspirant's demand/request it also questions the credibility of the college...!


Its upto u fellas.. to give priority.. to what you feel is imp..! If you have other gd scheduled on the same day... why dont u ask that college authorities to reschedule it?? its jus coz u have SCIT as a backup rite???

Its a part n parcel of the whole process..! u need to take risks.. if you have got a call from IIM.. n SCIT.. u probably might have a better chance of converting the SCIT call .. but then.. will u let go IIM call jus like that??? That talks about ur decision making and how well you know urself..! You need to take risks fellas.. Nothing is easy..

You cant just have everythin rescheduled as per your choice..

GD/PI process has a lot of consideration into it..! everythin is well organised and scheduled..
May be at max you can catch hold of a fellow aspirant and exchange schedule with him.. i.e. subjective to the condition that he and the college authorities are ready..

Have you all ever wondered while filling forms why do we have to answer questions like.. "Which other tests you have answered?" or "which other colleges you have applied too??"

Prioritizing, risks, descision making.. some of imp Managerial qualities guys..!!

So just think before straight away asking for a reschedule.. I really dont know if it is allowed or not (I dont think it is!!).. but if u do succeed in getting ur gd/pi rescheduled (which I dont c happening anyway), get ready to face the question during interview.. "why rescheduling...?" "was the other GD so imp???"
You all are hampering your own chances by asking the college to reschedule especially when you have to attend some other gd/pi process.
If you are keeping SCIT as a backup.. the college might to the same for u.. rather the college might even not consider you...

All the best fellas..!

Hope you all get my point..!! ..!

[study_hard]

Originally Posted by rudraksh123

It was indeed very unfortunate what happened.. And as usual it was carried out by few useless elements in the society.. Such elements exist everywhere and its the duty of the people as well the govt to put such elements behind bars..

What worries me is the Govt. view on this. Yesterday we saw news flashin.. Ministers stating.. "We are not gonna accept pub culture in Karnataka.." ... have they jus forgotten bengaluru??? I mean cmon.. along with a software hub.. its a pub hub too.. Its just that dirty politics have already began with this issue.. As pooja pointed out.. there is a huge support for such elements by political parties.. corruption to the core..!


Lemme get to the point of whether it should be accepted in India or not.. well.. I guess we have already accepted it.. and there are even rules n regulations in place.. If a pub does an illegal activity.. it definately need to shut by govt. They are not implemented is a different issue.. The prob in India is that we rely on references for everything.. Everything has some EXTERNAL SUPPORT!..

Regarding India getting westernized and girl loosing Indian tradition.. well India getting westernized.. there is no harm in that untill and unless we dont cash in for the wrong things.. There is quite a lot of good things which we can learn from western countries..
Girl loosing Indian tradition.. well its completely upto the girl.. its her choice.. Everyone is a unique individual and has the right to select they way they want to live.. Why is it never questioned.. A guy loosing Indian tradition? Even Guys have Indian tradition rite?

Reason for this senseless act : can be anything.. from some insane behaviour to may be stoppin illegal activities in a pub.. but more importantly I c it as a dirty game of politics.. nothin else..!!
Solution.. well.. Education.. not the poor people.. but the politicians..! (there is a lot to discuss but it will be off topic here..)

Well said.. I'll support it with some facts about these so called responsible politicians of ours

Rajasthan CM Ashok Gehlot, w/o basis linked alcohol consumption with the rise of crime against women, especially rape, in his state and has vowed to crack down on pub culture, He also has issues with malls and said - "I want to end the pub and mall culture where young boys and girls roam about hand in hand.

K'taka CM BS Yediyurappa, instead of cracking down swiftly on Sri Rame Sene whose head Pramod Muthalik has a record of inciting hatred and is alleged to have links with Malegaon blasts accused thinks it is more imp to tell us that his govt. will not allow pub culture to grow

SOURCE: TOI

Now these people have forgot that this is India and they are running a democracy. Who are they to decide pubs should exist or not? They being our representatives have solely the responsibility to take measures to ensure well being of the society instead of having their personal views about issues. In India, where we make no demarcation based on caste, color or sex how does the point of woman not being eligible to go to pubs come into picture? And if it's not boys and girls who'll mix freely then who are supposed to? Promoting gay and lesbians... is that our culture?

[study_hard]

Originally Posted by rudraksh123

Hi Puys..

This might be a lil off topic..

For all those FELLAS who are coming here for help regarding RESCHEDULING..!!

1st of all.. is rescheduling really possible??? if thats the case.. then why wud SCIT or for that matter any college decide on any dates n give it out in the admission process?? they wud have rather ask you all.. when are you comfortable in answering the GD/PI...
Anyone can jus ask for a reschedule jus like that on a day he/she is comfortable with.. even if he doesnt have anyother gd/pi..

Its upto u fellas.. to give priority.. to what you feel is imp..! If you have other gd scheduled on the same day... why dont u ask that college authorities to reschedule it?? its jus coz u have SCIT as a backup rite???

Its a part n parcel of the whole process..! u need to take risks.. if you have got a call from IIM.. n SCIT.. u probably might have a better chance of converting the SCIT call .. but then.. will u let go IIM call jus like that??? That talks about ur decision making and how well you know urself..! You need to take risks fellas.. Nothing is easy..

You cant just have everythin rescheduled as per your choice..

GD/PI process has a lot of consideration into it..! everythin is well organised and scheduled..
May be at max you can catch hold of a fellow aspirant and exchange schedule with him.. i.e. subjective to the condition that he and the college authorities are ready..

Have you all ever wondered while filling forms why do we have to answer questions like.. "Which other tests you have answered?" or "which other colleges you have applied too??"

Prioritizing, risks, descision making.. some of imp Managerial qualities guys..!!

So just think before straight away asking for a reschedule.. I really dont know if it is allowed or not (I dont think it is!!).. but if u do succeed in getting ur gd/pi rescheduled, get ready to face the question during interview.. "why rescheduling...?" "was the other GD so imp???"
You all are hampering your own chances by asking the college to reschedule especially when you have to attend some other gd/pi process.
If you are keeping SCIT as a backup.. the college might to the same for u.. rather the college might even not consider you...

All the best fellas..!

Hope you all get my point..!! ..!

Nice post... quite exhaustive
Even I don't think they'll reschedule it, most of the colleges don't do.
Par yaar jinka Univ. exam hai unki vatt lag jaegi. How'll they manage!!