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Re: [2008] DMS- IIT Delhi GD/PI experiences - 30-03-2008, 11:16 AM

My gdpi was today.....total 12 students in the gd, topic: to decide not to decide.........
all the topics today were abstract, some of them were left right 123 and predictably all were fish market. Our was a little good. There was a guy in our batch who was english faculty from IMS, so ofcourse he had to show his leadership skills, but.........letc c if panel was able to identify his over-leadership capabilities.

then PI, My panel was 1 and it had finance hod, one more faculty member and i guess 2 from the industry. I work in health insurance domain. work ex 18 months

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HOD introduced me to the panel by vocally pronouncing my degree, college(on which i think he was impressed because its one of the top 10 in india), my work ex(on which everyone retorted :- all are just the same.) then one prof asks.
q. tell us about your work respnsibilites.
ans: rata rataya ans

q. so you work as business development
ans (from where did he get this). no sir this and this not this

q. so in insurance there are few terms like adverse selection.
ans: i had heard about this term, can i give it a try (nods). I try, he says thats wrong, so i accept defeat, later checked that i was right. dont know why did he disagreed.

q. tell us about the US healthcare.
ans. was fully prepared for this and answered it viz-a-viz indian healthcare system. Told about US being privately managed by insurance companies and india being managed by goverment run hospitals with insurance penetration being less. Also told about India expenditure on healthcare being less than 3% of the gdp while US spends over 6% of its GDP.

HOD: But you said US was privately managed then how cum this expenditure.
me: Told that while India spends on AIIMS like institutions, US has National Institutes of health which are 21 in number for specialized R&D.

q. do this type of insurance schemes work like they have in US.
ans:- where India lacks is in implementation. some of the schemes in the budget were very good, like rashtriya bima yojna in which govement will pay 100 RS as insurance premium and it will give 30k cover to the poor, but most of the times what fails is the implementation, like PDS.

q. that is what (ANGRY), you can have good schemes on paper but implementation is what counts, give me areas where PDS lacks.
ans quality of cereals and curruption, then spoke about the smart card which are being implemented in this budget to ensure the reachability of the PDS to the targetted people

q. whom does PDS target.
ans BPL population

q. define BPL.
ans in calories terms its so and so

q. No i want in value terms
ans 1$ per day

q. in rs terms
ans should be 40 but he disagreed so i said that i am not sure if it is PPP terms which i though it was.(verified it to be in PPP terms which is Rs 10
then he passes the chance to other prof

q. tell me about financial concern in the yesterdays newspaper.
ans i said sub prime but he asked more recent, so i said inflation i guess was looking for this answer.

q. how much was it and what do you mean by that
ans 6.64% and its meaning as in it is the change in difference of price of basket of predecided goods over same week last year to current year./p>
q. there are some other indices too
ans wpi and cpi, and their differences, could not recall the difference in the actual baskets but he was satisfied and asked me to let it go.

NOW COMES THE DOWNFALL.q. so you are electronics engg.ans
q. favourite subjects, why are CMOS widely used, than NMOS and PMOS
Ans. wrong ans, said that they are faster to switch than a transistor

q Faster than transistor??????both are transistors, expand MOSFET.
ans expanded, Metal oxide Field effect TRANSISTOR phew was tough to recall

q: see you said transistor so both are transistors.
ans so it must be faster than BJT.

q. No they are not, has something got to do with power.
ans by this time i was totally fed up with the question that i got it all wrong, so i said i dont know.

q. what is clock speed of pentium
ans dont know

panel.....YOU DONT KNOW CLOCK SPEED OF PENTIUM, GET OUT.(gist was this)
HOD: So are you satisfied with your interview, the sir's part (who asked me ELEC questions). I say that i am not satisfied with the electronics part, then he asks me about the earlier part, to which i say that I am.
He then asks me to leave.
me
so its all over it seems on one inane question, and couple of other in electronics. God why did i choose electronics. I think after the last three questions they decided that i was hopeless, but i have 80+ % in degree....how can they expect me to remember such typical reasons after 2 yesrs though i studied them well in engg. My rank too is amongst last to be called so i might be rejected. letc, i am hoping against hope.


a ton of thanks to the seniors, they were very helpful, panel 1 coordinator for pi manish was extreamly helpful. ciao


VERDICT: converted based on this interview.....

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Re: [2008] DMS- IIT Delhi GD/PI experiences - 30-03-2008, 06:00 PM

2 days over and only 1 experience!!!!

This will not do re, MBA karna ho to aur kaam karna padhta :P

I will be posting my Experience soon

Honestly, being on the other side of the wall is an experience in itself. It was real fun interacting with such a lively bunch and it was a pleasure organising the whole thing!!

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Re: [2008] DMS- IIT Delhi GD/PI experiences - 30-03-2008, 07:28 PM

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My gdpi was today.....total 12 students in the gd, topic: to decide not to decide.........
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a ton of thanks to the seniors, they were very helpful, panel 1 coordinator for pi manish was extreamly helpful. ciao
Hey,

I had interacted with almost everyone who was in panel 1 because I was right outside conducting GD's. And from all the other interactions that I've had, every electronics fresher from that panel suffered the same fate. So, dont worry, you have a great chance.

The best part about such a process is that you will be judged relatively. So, have fun @ home/office & ATB.
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Re: [2008] DMS- IIT Delhi GD/PI experiences - 30-03-2008, 07:52 PM

ok..here goes my experience...
JMET RANK-23
Acads-avg
work ex-approx 6 months

DMS building find karna s a task unto itself if u come from the IIT main gate... took 15-20min to find it..

so it Started with Doc submission...I had forgotten to bring my photocopies..DUMB o me..i had gone one day b4 to get them attested, banged my car in the process and now forgotten them !!!
anyways

GD- power-nucleate or nuclear!!
2min to think, 13min to discuss..

As soon as i saw the topic, i was terrified...!!
i dint even understand the meaning , so wt shud i write in the pad..
nwys.. i understodd nuclear, so i started writing bout nuclear power...
Alas!! as soon as the discussion started, pepal were discussin centralisation/decentralisation!!!...i was like ab kya karu!!! anyways listened to pepal n then started giving my points...
Overall v discussed many aspects includin nuclear power(ye ye!!)..
I believe it was a somewat noisy gd.. My contribution was decent..

So now to PI..
I was assigned panel 4..tokin to the panel coordinator he told me the panel was koool.. Bt the person comin oout b4 me said, the asked him chemistry.....n i HATE chemistry....bt then wteva!!

went in... 3ppl.. p1,p2,p3..m=me

p1..so ur xxxxxxx eh..done ur engg frm XX coll with this %age..
M.. yes sir
p1..so u ve been preparing
m..no sir, i m working as well with XYZ....
p1..oh is it..ok..
p2..ur workin in del?
m..yes now i am but was in ABC city b4...
anyways some discussion bout my job, where i work, etc etc...
all p1,p2,p3 asking Q's here..

p3..ok..so u know about current business scenario...
m..yes sir..
p3..tel me about budget
m..told..
p3..nethin bout tax slabs..
m..oh yes...told...


p2..ok, have u heard o bioinfomatics n ccccc(some term i dunno)
m..No sir, i haven ever read bout them

Now p1 takes over

p1..so do u know about stock mkt, finance etc..
m..yes sir,
p1..bull, bear?
m--answrd
p1..sensex consists of hw many securities
m..told
p1..wat is mkt capitalisation
m..told
p1.Q reg depreciation, devaluation
m..couldn answer very well..but arrived at somethin..
p1..hw can rbi stem dollar depreciation..
m..told...

p1..ok thanks n smiles
m..thank you sir..

Thats bout it,..
have mentioned all the Q's fr u ppl..Do well..
As for me..i m sick of so many rejects now.. i don even wana think bout nethin... I think i was overconfident b4 some processes n thats y they kicked me.. waiting for the main calls now..

Note: The seniors were very helpful.. all o them were.. n the process was very well managed and fast...reportin for me was at 1030 and i was free at 1215...
Thanks alot seniors..


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Re: [2008] DMS- IIT Delhi GD/PI experiences - 31-03-2008, 12:26 PM

Venue: DMS, IIT Delhi
Date and Time: 30 March, 8: 30
JMET < 100
Acads: < average
Work-ex: 2.5 yrs in IT
Interest: Operation (mentioned in SOP)

GD:
12 ppl were scheduled, only 7 turned up, so the next batch was combined making it 11 of us. 4 evaluators. 2 mins to think + 12 mins of discussion.
Topic: Rapid transmission: Good or Bad????
Couldn't really understand the topic.. was it abt transport or information or ideas? In the end the group talked about everything!
We were told that there had been too many fish markets before so the group made a concious effort to keep the decibel levels down. At a point when 2 ppl were trying to enter the GD... and 4 ppl were trying to moderate!!! But it simply meant that every1 got to talk.

PI:
2 profs from marketing and one industry guy.
P1: Tell me abt yourself?
P1: Tell me abt EPZs and SEZ. (since i had worked in SEZ) Was asked when it was set up but could not answer and which was the first EPZ but could not answer. Discussion went for 1 min.
P1: Ur view on MNS activities against north-indians (since i m from mumbai) Discussion went for 2 mins. Was asked to name the article that MNS is infringing on... in exact words and the article #!!!
P2: SJMSOM Vs DMS
P2: If both are equal in all aspects.. which one and why?
P2: Tell me about a retailer that gives "completely customized product".. I tried asking about whether we were talking india or global. But he didn't specify... I tried saying Dell.. bu he didn't approve of it.. some discussion followed on dell for 1 min.
P3: Tell me about the recent activity in retail... I couldn't think of any. He asked me abt FDI limit in different formats... told its 100% for speciality stores and 49% for Others.
P3: Name a few big retailers in Mumbai... what are challenges facing mumbai retailers?
P2: Tell me about thermodynamic propogation of sound!!! I was clueless abt what i said for the next 30 sec on this topic.
P3: Tell me about fortune 500 compnies, criterias, 3 of top 10 companies etc... i didn't have a clue.
(By now... it was close to 20 mins i think and i was waiting for it to get over.)
P3: Tell me no of seats in Rajya sabha, lok sabha, how many nominated members, term of members in RS and many more on constitution. (didn't know any of this)
P3: You need to work on ur General awareness.. Good day

The last 5 mins simply screwed my chances royally... but if there are any marks to sport a smile throughout the process... i will get full marks Personally, this has to be the worst interview I have given... and feels bad to end the interview season on a low note.

DMS seniors, the process was well-managed.. 400 students in 2 days is excellent going... except for the doc verification (long queue)
Hostel facilities were a big question mark.. (i heard abt the constraints) but had we know abt it before hand... we would have made alternate arrangements!
Nonetheless, i have made some friends and visited Qutub minar on the previous day. Nothing can beat this!

Puys, All the best for results.

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Re: [2008] DMS- IIT Delhi GD/PI experiences - 31-03-2008, 12:29 PM

Hi PUYs

Sorry for the late post but here goes my GD/PI exp.

Prelude:
JMET Rank -- 57
Work -ex -- 21 months
Acads -- Good
ECA -- Decent

Bumpy ride into Delhi... reached late on Friday even.. grabbed 4 hrs sleep b4 gearing up for the interview...
Again searching for DMS building is a tuff thing if u have entered thru the main Gate...

The
Process: Date: 29/03/08 Slot -- 8.30 am

Started off with the document verification. Assigned a number and we went off for our GD. In our group of 12 only 7 turned up.. and in the next out of 12 only 5.. so we were merged together to create a group for GD...
Topic was "Haste makes Waste"... 2 mins to jot down points and 13 mins to chatter abt it.. Me went blank for 10 secs and then picked with few blah blah points...
GD started with one guy quoting some examples ... we discussed lack of planning, diff b/w hasty decisions and prompt decisions... and such arbit stuff...
I entered 2-3 times with few points and one example of the B'lore international airport...
Before we cd sum up properly the panel asked us to stop and leave... overall satisfying experience..

PI was very soon after that ( hasty !!!!).. My panel was number 1 (with HOD and 3 others... i suppose only panel with 4 ppl) ..short and sweet...

HOD, 1 madam (from IT background), one person (P1) (presumably from B.Tech side...), one person (P2) (from either DMS or corporate)...

HOD -- Parasuram, u hv a heavy name..so who was the original famous Parasuram...
M -- gyan... (mugged it up by now..)
HOD -- looks like u hv prepared well for the interview
M -- grin!!! ( wat else can i do!!)
HOD -- so u r working ?
M -- yes sir for past 20 months in XXX...
HOD -- tell us something abt ur work... (points towards the madam... )
M (turning to her) -- gyan ....
Madam --- specifice questions abt the tool i am working on.. diff b/w old version and new version... what platform ...
M -- answered them all... she seemed satisfied...
HOD -- so electrical engg huh ?? ( moderating the interview...) u want to ask something ( towards the B.Tech staff)...
P1 -- (must say very gentle person.. ) so wat were ur fav subjects ?
M -- dc machines and electical circuits...
P1 -- ok then tell what is the condition reqd to transfer power from one power circuit to another...
M -- ( socha strike 1...) sir the transmission impedance shd be low ... ( saw the look on his face and stopped... wrong answer ... )
P1 -- (surprised...) no not that...
M -- Maybe i'm nt able to und ur ques... can u repeat it / rephrase it ??? (some thing on those lines...)
P1 -- took a note pad... and drew a representation..
M -- (dimaag ki batti jali) sir are u talkin abt max power transfer theorem... ?
P1 -- yes yes...
M -- elec gyan.. ( 4 saal baad elec k funde dene ka chance...)
P1 -- hmmm ... u hv given me just the theory but i am fine with the answer...
M -- ( stumped... !! abe aur kya bolna tha..) smiled @ him ( thanks chodd diya itna pooch kar!!!)
HOD turns to P2 ... u want to ask something...
P2 -- just one question... wat do u know CSR ( corporate social responsibility...)
M -- ( i had mentioned something abt CSR in my SOP...) gyan... lotsa blah blah...

At the end of it, all smiles... Thank you parasuram, All the best...( ho gaya)

Quick thanks to apna DMA Controller ( anand hariharan...), gave me info abt the panel... esp the HOD... strictly formal ( else apun to tongue-in-cheek comments k bina bol hi nahi sakta ) ... also compliments to the student body @ DMS...well managed fast paced process... overall mast process @ IIT D

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Re: [2008] DMS- IIT Delhi GD/PI experiences - 01-04-2008, 03:33 PM

hey everyone.
first things first .
the accomodation was great! about 30 of us were put into a basement room. some complained initially , but eventually everybody loved the synergy that was generated.
we had a great time together , made many friends got to interact with seniors at length.
also about 7 of us went and visited Qutub Minar together , and later few remaining to Lotus temple.
so all in all first gdpi experince where had so much fun in the city.

the bonhomie later helped in the gdpi too , as most of us were from the basement group.

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Jmet rank : 235 (about 13 guys have this rank.)
work ex : 8 months.
acads : way below average . ( in XII scored 57.4 % , has been my bugbear in many of the interviews , sometimes made me wonder if it automatically disqualified me for final selections , but finally converted XIMB to dispel that doubt.)
extra curric. : profile filled with it. right now working in a magazine as art section editor.


gd topic :
were given three topics actually , two rejected .
first was "Nothing" , which panelist gave out of his hat while discussing with us. would have loved to talk on it but group backed out . ( it was a very informal discussion where we were asked if we would lwant the topic.)
next we got to pick up a topic , i chose no. 1 from list of 1 to 10
interviewer declared that it was the toughest topic on the list ( we all braced up ready to meet the challenge.) he declared the topic
" Gandhi and Leini..."
he had to spell the other name , and no it was not Lenin , no body had heard of him except one person who knew him to be some footballer.
so finally the third topic , a very very simple one.
" Unity in Diversity"

we all talked a lot ,
from rainbows to globalization to Tibet to Yoga( meaning integration or summation ) to Zeitgeist ( google it ) to thermal equilibrium to atoms to.....
as i said a lot.
no fish market , but really one of the most keenly contested gd that i have ever attended .
many people didn't come because they have got the other calls , but it also implies that those who came were the people who really wanted this convert. so the gd was really one where you have to work in each and every word of yours inspite of it being no fish market.

PI
the senior (Vikas!) who came to discuss the insti with us last night , was the very same person to escort me to the pi panel .
he told me many unique positive points of dms before i went in , also told me that the Prof. inside was Mr. Maya( am not too sure if i have got it right)
and that he teaches creative solutions in first semester .
the info was very handy , used it to make the interview go in a creative direction . mentioned Edward De Bono ( lateral thinking guy , normal suspect name in any creative solution course) and naturally got quizzed on him.

there were 4-5 people in the panel , one prof ,and other industry guys.
questions were coming from everywhere so i am not going to use p1,p2..convention just p: panelist and m: me.

P:tell us about yourself
M:told
P: oh , you work in a magazine ,what sort of work?
M:told
P:you have got a good thing going here , why break it and go for mba?
M:told
P:what was your final year project
MDES , data encryption standard . explained in detail )
P:first computer science , then art section editor in a magazine , tell me what sort of a profile you are looking for in a job?
M: told ( it was finance , talked about the companies which came to recruit last year , talked about SBI caps which i had a discussion with a senior )
P:what are your reading habits?
M:Literature and Philosophy.(couldn't believe that i was being asked questions on this line , reading is obviously a passion . )
P:any biz related books?
M: talked about Steven Covey and Edward de Bono.
P:tell us all the 7 habits of Covey's book.
M: No way i remember them sir
( everybody laughing.)
P: ok ,tell us about two .
M: detailed about my favorite "circle of influence" .
P: Which book of de Bono have you read
M: Lateral thinking.
P: define lateral thinking in two lines.
M: To break away from the inertia of the data presented with , stepping sideways and finding new elements relevent to a solution having the whole framework in perspective. ( or something like that. )

had a bit more chit chat with the panel , and the interview finally got complete.
Was fun .


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gd topic :
were given three topics actually , two rejected .
first was "Nothing" , which panelist gave out of his hat while discussing with us. would have loved to talk on it but group backed out . ( it was a very informal discussion where we were asked if we would lwant the topic.)
next we got to pick up a topic , i chose no. 1 from list of 1 to 10
interviewer declared that it was the toughest topic on the list ( we all braced up ready to meet the challenge.) he declared the topic
" Gandhi and Leini..."
he had to spell the other name , and no it was not Lenin , no body had heard of him except one person who knew him to be some footballer.
so finally the third topic , a very very simple one.
" Unity in Diversity"
if i am not mistaken, wasnt leini the same footballer who was in news receently since in the british ciry of birhimgham, there was a controvrsy of whethr his or gandhi's statue shud b put up.. he was a famous fottballer of that city..


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