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VGSOM, IIT KGP GD/PI experiences[2008-2010] - 03-03-2008, 07:54 PM

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Re: VGSOM, IIT KGP GD/PI experiences[2008-2010] - 03-03-2008, 08:30 PM

Venue: SJSOM,IIT BOMBAY
SLOT: 1:00pm
Reached at 12.45 pm
Process started at 2.40pm

We had a presentation follwed by the GD...

Had a case study..Was about one page long!!!
Had a pretty good GD...Spoke 2-3 times and made good points...
Overall i was satisfied.
SUMAARY + DISCUSSION + WRITTEN SUMMARY = 1 per person + 5-7 + 1 minute
Total members 17 of which 2 were absent!!

Now the PI
Faculty (F) , Other Guy (O), ME (M)

M - Good evening (was 4.30 pm)
F - Good Afternoon
F - So tell me something different in ure Xth , XIIth and Engg cerificates...
M - Sir the way my Name is written was very different
Smiles all around.....
F - (Still smiling) - So u have three different ways of writin ure name.
F - Where ure Mom Dad from
M- Punjab
F - So u were born n brought up here in Mumbai...
M -Yes sir
F - U the only Child?
M - No sir younger sister at XYZ college...
F - Good...Why have u quit ure job..
M -Gyan
F - Hmm seemed happy with my reply....Good acads i must say!!
O(All of a sudden) - give me ure attested copies of the transcripts (They eventually kept the copies...didnt do it for anyone else before me)
O - Lots of xtra curriculars good...Accha tell me why has ure percentage fallen to 70 in engg...
F (interrupts) - arre Mumbai and Pune university 65 is like 90...relax..they dont give marks...
M
O - Name 3 business leaders...
M - (without thinking) Narayan Murthy, Bill Gates, Warren Buffet (Dunno why i said these names)

O -What is WB`s company name
M -Berkshire Hathway
O -Anything unique abt WB
M -Chairty work etc etc Gyan....
F -Tell me about ure work exp.....
M- Gyan...
F -Interesting....I`m done..
O - Yeah i didnt realize that we overshot the interview time!!!
F - Pleasure meeting u young man....
M - Pleasure is all mine sir....

Was a feel good interview..Lasted for 10 mins...I`m hopeful!! Lets see


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Re: VGSOM, IIT KGP GD/PI experiences[2008-2010] - 03-03-2008, 09:49 PM

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Venue: SJSOM,IIT BOMBAY


Was a feel good interview..Lasted for 10 mins...I`m hopeful!! Lets see
Oh MAN, u had a gr interview.
do u know what Panel u were with.
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Re: VGSOM, IIT KGP GD/PI experiences[2008-2010] - 03-03-2008, 09:55 PM

Please do not open any new threads for GD-PI purposes.
All discussions pertaining to GD-PI should be kept to the main thread only: http://www.pagalguy.com/forum/other-...ml#post1019801 (VGSoM Admissions -GD/PI Helpdesk 2008-10)

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Re: VGSOM, IIT KGP GD/PI experiences[2008-2010] - 03-03-2008, 10:24 PM

Well puys, I think today was the first day for the process. Had my center at SJMSOM, IIT Bombay. Here is my experience:
We were asked to reach SJMSOM at 8 am. Saw a group assembled in the corridor of the main building, had a chat with a few. The presentation about the college begun at 8:25. The placement figures of 2008 were also mentioned. The professor who took the presentation was particularly enthusiastic about the cultural events that take place at VGSOM. Then in the middle of the question answer session the dean of the institute came with another faculty. We were given our badges and taken to the GD rooms. There were 51 people called there, out of which 3 batches of 17 people were formed! Although I found that 2 people were absent per batch, but 15 is a very high number for a group, and we all feared a fish market as we went to the room around 9:20.

The prof who had made the presentation was in our panel. The panelists clearly mentioned their scorn for fish markets and clearly said that there are no marks for argumenting/raising one's voice etc. Instead there were marks for speaking well and following discussion dynamics. We were asked "To behave like a group of executives; assuming that you are the body of top executives of this cable company". I think that was the only reason why our GD didn't turn to a fish market. I later found that the other 2 groups had exactly the same case study and managed to make it a fish market.

About the case:
This cable company in the US has a market in 3 cities in the north east, but at 12% growth rate it believes that it is not growing well in the north east region. So it acquires a Tuscan cable company. They find that at the end of the year the growth rate in Tucson is only 2%. So how would you analyze the situation and what could be the reasons for it? Then a background of the company was given, where it was mentioned that the Tucson company had only a 20% market penetration whereas the company had about 45% penetration in the 3 cities. That the company had tried promotional schemes like free HBO/free Disney channel for one month without much success. That the Tucson households are spread far and wide which increased the maintenance costs. Their operational costs and fixed costs drivers were mentioned.

We were all given 5 mins to study the case and to make points. We were asked to speak for a few seconds each (called at random). I was the second last person asked to speak, and by then two of my points were already spoken :-|, but I still managed to give a structured intro (possible causes, short term solns, long term solns). I must have got marks for mentioning "combination offers" like getting a connection free with a new TV; and "brand loyalty" of tucson cable consumers. I observed that they were cutting those short who were speaking in a comma comma comma fashion (not ending their points).

The GD started with causes, and revolved around the various marketing strategies that the company could follow. After a lively discussion on the causes (local culture, competition, etc) we discussed quite a few interesting alternatives. As soon as we began long term solutions we were asked to stop!:dontgeti: It must have been only 8 minutes. I was very disappointed as I had an excellent point about a long term solution that I could not mention. But I am glad that the GD had a flow, did not become chaotic and almost everyone contributed.

We had to write 3 points each on the paper that we were provided with. I asked for a clarification and they were supposed to be the points that the group agreed upon. We had to mention our JMET regn no and the panel provided it to those who couldn't remember.
We were asked to go back to the seminar hall in the ground floor. As my no was 16, I went for breakfast at a canteen right outside the building with a couple of my batchmates. The interview calls were serial. I will discuss about the interview experience in the next post.

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Re: VGSOM, IIT KGP GD/PI experiences[2008-2010] - 04-03-2008, 01:22 AM

Coming to the interview process.
The Panel that was present for our GDs was the one that took our interviews as well. We could interact among ourselves so it was a very chilled out atmosphere. The interviews in the beginning were lasting around 15-20 minutes, the later ones condensed to 10 minutes. The panel in which the dean was present had longer interviews in general and HR focussed interviews.

People were usually asked about their work experience, job profile, details about the client, their learnings etc. Few people were asked about the Budget, but mostly general things, like the GDP of India, VAT, Tax, "your take on the budget". A few people were also required to give an extempore!! Well they were asked to speak for one minute on topics like "nano" and "Give me 3 reasons why I should NOT select you" :sly:.

Freshers were asked about academics. But they were given the initial opporunity, they were asked questions like "Which is your favourite subject?" or "What did you study during Engineering?" effectively moving to their strengths or their area of preparation .

My interview began at 1:30 pm, with 13 people being interviewed before me and went something like this (As usual, P1= panel 1, a senior professor with 25 years of industry experience and more than 5 years at VGSOM, P2 = panel 2, a prof specialising in finance and accounts with 10 months in VGSOM and 10 years overall experience, and M = me):

P1: So...Abhishek.....are you hungry?
M: (Understood that this is an ice breaker question, smiled, and asked them if they were hungry)
P1: Oh yes, I am very hungry, but don't worry as this will not affect your interview and your chances in any way
So....your surname suggests that we can trace your origins to a remote place in MP or Ujjain or Bihar or UP?
M: Sir my parents are from (a state) but I have been born and brought up in Mumbai.
P2: What is your take on the recent activities against north Indians like you in Mahrashtra?
M: (Without getting emotionally charged up) Sir I think that it is very unfair.....
P1: (Interrupting) Oh yes.....very unfair....
P2: I think that the educated Maharashtrians do not support them...
M: Yes sir, in fact I have a friend from college who is one and condemns their actions. I believe that the core issue is not what they have brought up, but it is that Mumbai's resources are under pressure from immigrants, but they are targetting a particular section of the society. Also the methods that they have used are wrong. Violence is wrong.
P1: Yaar tumhare marks kaise hain.....which trigonometric graph does this represent?
(Taking out a sheet of paper, dividing the XY axis in 5 horizontal lines)
Ye tumhare 10th aur 12th ke marks hain....close to 90. Aur ye itna bada drop hua graduation me?
M: Actually it is not easy to score in Mumbai University.
P2: (Looking at P1) Achha...bahut kanjoos university hai (smiling)
M: (Went on to mention that the university topper from my class had got 80%, and that he was the topper of the entire university.)
P1: So if I go by your graph, it will go further down in MBA?
M: (Smiling) Sir it can go upwards as well. (Serious) My point is that now I am very motivated to do an MBA and I am sure that I will perform when the time comes.
P1: Yes yes, you are very motivated, that's why you got 157 rank in JMET. So you must have attended this (pointing to the floor of the college) interview as well?
M: No sir, I didn't get a call from SJMSOM, probably due to a low sectional score in DI.
P1: (Half looking at P2) Oh, they consider sectionals?
M: (Thinking, C'mon, you don't know that?:sly....As far as I know.
P1: Which college did you study in?
M: xyz college, in Mumbai only.
P1: So you are an abc Engineer (designation). Ah that guy who came in some time back was also the same. (Decided not to ask me the ramayan about the job profile as I am sure the "other guy" would have already told him, and by 13 interviews they might have got terribly fed up)
P1: (Reading from the printout of my form) Poetry....hmm....Mr. Poet.
P2: Which languages do you write in?
M: Mostly English.
P1: Photography? Which camera do you have?
M: Minolta.
P1: Digital?
M: Not digital. But it has zoom lens and great quality. I don't get the feel of good photography with digital cameras.
P1: Which model is it? SLR?
M: No sir. I don't remember the model but it is not SLR.
I got this interest from my father who was an amateur photographer. He had a few photos published in magazines, newspapers. He has taught me a few tips and tricks.
P1: Who else is in your family?
M: Blah...
P1: You will come to Kharagpur? You will stay alone?
M: I have stayed alone for 3 n half years (details), so I think I can adjust.

P1: Wow, tum kya nahi karte ho.....(Noting down a couple of things that I mentioned in the extra curriculars sheet, in his notepad)....Igggg (society)?
M: I was an event coordinator of the society as well as its most active participant in college.
P1: .......bbbing, cccing, ddding, trekking
M: (Smiling) Sir this could be a reason why I didn't get so many marks during graduation. (Serious) The trekking passion started after I joined xxx company. We got many opportunities there.
P1: What about reading?
M: Yes. (Went on to name the last 2-3 fiction books that I had read, almost forgetting the name of one author, but recollecting it before it was too late).
P1: (Showed some knowledge about one of the fiction authors that I mentioned, then quickly moved on). What about non-fiction? Do you read any?
M: I am currently reading India Unbound by Gurcharan Das. (Details about the book in one line).
P1: What does Gurcharan Das do?
M: (Lost a point there, as I haven't researched about him, and haven't reached that part of the book yet )
P1: He was the CEO of xyz company, then he quit and became an author and what not.
M: Nodding.
P1 and P2: Ok that's it. Thank you. (long pause, then almost half willing....) Would you like to ask us something?
M: (Had framed the question after their ppt) I wanted to ask you that you have a 6 month project.....people coming from engineering background, many opting for different kinds of roles, like HR.....So how does the company trust the student for a 6 month job?
P1: (Went on for a minute. Began with how MBA students are serious, are looking for a change in job/profile. Ended with an example of a student who had got a ppo for an HR role in a biggie company last time around after his 6 month stint).

Overall an ok interview except for that mistake, but it did not deviate from the weird pattern of my interviews. 4th interview in a row that did not have "Why MBA?" "Tell me something about yourself". I am seriously thinking about changing the way I fill forms/sops .
Well these cliche questions were not asked to many today, only 3-4 candidates that I can recall. I do remember someone being asked about Entrepreneurship (I am guessing they picked it up, as usual, from his SOP). Psssst..there was a certain Pagalguy creature in our batch ...a certain ModSaurus

Regarding document verification, absolutely none happened. One of my batchmates asked this at the end of his interview. They looked at his call letter, saw the list of documents required, then said that they don't need to look at anything. But just to be on the safe side, it is better to carry all the certificates just in case you need to substantiate something.

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Re: VGSOM, IIT KGP GD/PI experiences[2008-2010] - 04-03-2008, 08:53 AM

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Oh MAN, u had a gr interview.
do u know what Panel u were with.
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Re: VGSOM, IIT KGP GD/PI experiences[2008-2010] - 04-03-2008, 12:48 PM

Hie!! Had my VGSoM GD and Interview at IITSoM in the morning batch.

GD :eh:
It was a Case study, 10 mins to read, 1 min per person to speak followed by 10 mins of Group Discussion. I would rather term '17' as a crowd discussion rather than group discussion. Anyways, was okayish. My contribution was okayish. Nothing to lavish, nor dismal.

PI

Panel - B.
P1 - Panelist 1 (10 months at VGSoM - Accounts and Finance)
P2 - Prof. Sinha (24 years in Industry followed by 5.5 years at VGSoM - Operations and SCM)

I enter the room, Prof. Sinha asked me to sit.
Me - Good Afternoon.
P2 - Good Afternoon. seems you had a long wait! (I was last to go in from the morning batch)
Me - Yeah, sure was.
P1 - Hmm. tell me about yourself.
Me - Blah blah ....
P2 - Ok ... now you have claimed all this work-ex? How? Tell me, what did you do at Om Computer Systems?
Me - It is my company. Founding partner.
P1 - Who were your clients? When did you start it?
Me - Blah blah ....
P2 - So, interesting, you are an entrepreneur. So, what are you currently doing?
Me - Siemens, Indian, AG, etc.
P2 - Hmm. So, where in Germany do you stay?
Me - Nuremberg.
P2 - What is Nuremberg famous for?
Me - Nuremberger and Nuremberg trials.
P2 - What is Nuremberg trials?
Me - Trials on the Nazi regime after WW2 were held in Nuremberg by the international tribunal for war crimes. Since then, they have come to be known as Nuremberg trials.
P2 - And, what is Nuremberger, never heard about it!
Me - A pie. With dry fruits and resins.
P2 - Ok, next, what did you do at IMS?
Me - Part-time faculty for QA and DI.
P1 - So, you like statistics a lot.
Me - Yeah, a little bit, yes. (Although with his Fin background I thought I was in for trouble, just then, Prof. Sinha jumped to my rescue. )
P2 - So, what do you do at pagaluy.com?
Me - Moderator.
P2 - Hmm.
P1 - So, what are your interests?
Me - Hmm ... Logical Reasoning, Puzzles, Stock Markets.
P1 - Hmm. What kind of investor you are?
Me - Long term.
P1 - Define Long term.
Me - 1 year + .
P1 - Ohh! Then, because of the recent fall in markets, you would not have been effected.
Me - :eh: Everyone is effected! The only difference is, I can sleep at night!
P1 and P2 -
P2 - Hmm. Interesting profile. So, tell me, any other calls?
Me - No. Havent applied elsewhere.
P2 - Why?
Me - Blah blah .. which only you and IIMA offer!
P2 - Hmm. Ya.. that's true.
P1 and P2 look at each other. Blank faces. Nothing more to ask. Thank you and All the best.
Me - Good day!

Roughly 12-15 mins interview. I was happy. Now, I don't know how they would rate it!

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Re: VGSOM, IIT KGP GD/PI experiences[2008-2010] - 04-03-2008, 02:35 PM

Had my VGSOM GDPI today at SJSOM .........

The reporting time was 8:00(were asked to report half an hour b4 8!!!)...but the process started at 8:45. Mr. Gautam Sinha faculty of VGSOM with 25 years in the industry did give a very informative presentation about VGSOM........

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The GD started at 9:15....we were 17 guys in one group....two blokes decided against attending...so we were 15 for the GD....The GD was a case study based wherein a US based liquor company is facing problem in booking profits because of increase in distribution cost....the case had many other angles like some states allowing free availability of liquor while some controlling liquor trade....

we were given 5 min to prepare our points....then each one was supposed to speak for a min (la extempore)....i was the first person asked to speak:lookroun:....guess i did welll....we overall had a good GD...didnt turn into a fish market.........

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PI:
Had Mr. Sinha(S) as one of the panelist...the other seemed junior(J) to Mr.Sinha....and me Vendetta(V)

S: What all calls u have?
V: blah blah

S: So u have work ex in xyz company... how is the company doing...which dept u r from...
V: blah

S: hmm things surely have changed since my days in ur compny?
V: sir did u work for xyz company?

S: smiles ......1978....long back...
V:

(i guess this was the ice breaker..l8r on it was cool)

S: so what drives you in life my son?
V: reading....basically current affairs...

S: so whats happening in Sri lanka?
V: explained abt the Karuna and Prabakaran faction....imminent declaration of war by Mahindra Rajapaksa on LTTE...as the peace truce negotiated by the norwegian peace convoy has failed.......blah....

J: so who do u think will be victorious?
V: depends...if some nations esp India help SL....then LTTE may be defeated...

S: what needs to be done by India?
V: increase patrolling on Tamil nadu Coastal area.....

S: what is it called?
V: Palk Strait

S: so what kind of books u read?
V: blah....

S: tell me something abt Fountain Head?
V: blah....theory of objectivism....blah....

J: so tell me the news in ET editorial page yest?
V::crazyeye:...sorry sir cant recall

J: PPP...does it ring any bell?
V: Purchasing Power Parity.....:lookroun:

J: Nope.....
S: Pakistan Peoples Party?
V: I give up...

J: (triumphantly) public private partnership....
V: oops yeah...sorry couldnt remeber.....

S: its ok....it was nice meeting u....
J: smiles.....
V: thank you sir...(looked at both)

over all a chilled interview....the faculty were extremely cordial.....never felt like am in a midst of an interview.....all the best to others!!!


The only verdict is vengeance; a vendetta held as a votive, not in vain, for the value and veracity of such shall one day vindicate the vigilant and the virtuous. Verily, this vichyssoise of verbiage veers most verbose vis-à-vis an introduction, and it is my very good honour to meet you and you may call me Vendetta.
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