[arulprakash]

HOCKEY


If you are going to pick a nation for its outstanding record which stood out in the sport of field hockey it would be India, all for the right reasons pre 1980 and for the wrong reasons post 1980. I went to the Asia cup final held at chennai last year they thrashed south Korea 7-2 , I thought may be there was a hope after all. But that was last year and now it is three months without international hockey for a team which needs to perform to qualify for the Olympics. "Practice makes perfect" anybody who has half the brain would be able to tell you that.The team should have had at least 10 friendly but all they got was 3 matches against Belgium who were by no means world beaters.

okay, I listened to the bbc on the day of the loss,I was so angry listening to the sports update, you know the anchor read "hockey kings knelt down to the knights". they were praising the British team and they deserved it but the Indian team was belittled.I thought if ,if only K.P.S.Gill knowed the enormity of it and how heritage,value and national pride are intertwined with this wonderful game.

Infrastructure needs to be developed,the process should start at the grass root, scouts should be sent to spot the talent at the tender age so we can shape the future. you cannot build a team overnight.A tree will not grow on its own, we need to nurture it, protect it and care for it. the process may be slow but the fruits that can be got are worth the wait


Hire and fire , as far as I can remember Indian team is changing coaches almost every year, coaches need time to make the players understand the way he wants them to play and players on the other hand is forced to change his style of play with each coach. If each player doesnt know what his role in the team is then how can we win.


Any sport to be popular three things are important
1.results
2.accessibility
3. media

results- until we start to produce results we cannot expect the people to embrace the sport, Nobody wants to flock by the millions to the stadiums paying their hard earned money to see their team getting thrashed. Cricket is producing the results fairly consistently so the public adore the sport. Role models are winners not losers

accessibility- Until we develop playing field how are the kids supposed to play, hockey is not like football , it need special pitches, nowadays hockey is played in astroturf our kids play in clay and grass. We need to change its not 1950's when Olympics was played in grass.So more stadiums means more people playing it as simple as you like.

Media- the Indian media is going crazy, its blah blah blah they start off with trivia and end with trivia, News has lost its perhaps baring a few, most of them, don't have a clue of the word called content profiling. They put everything from saif ali khan getting a tattoo to wardrobe malfunction. There got to be something more important than that in a nation of a Billion people.I would rate our media third worst behind only the British and Aussies.


Guys what do you think about the New Rajiv Gandhi International Airport being opened by our president oh sorry, our prime minister oh no its not the prime minister then who else, hey its Sonia Gandhi . What is going on?. what right does a Leader of a political party have in opening an public building?. And naming it rajiv gandhi airport when regional leader of the state are left out. NT rama rao is a more prominent and relatable name that could have been given

[sidrah]

Originally Posted by gunjanr5

lets talk about globalization and its impact .... i found two topics asked in last year's gd ....Globalisation has eroded the nation state and Globalisation boon or curse for Indian youth. keeping both in mind lets give our views.....

Liberalization refers to a relaxation of previous government restrictions, usually in areas of social or economic policy.
Privatization is the incidence or process of transferring ownership of business from the public sector (government) to the private sector (business).

Globalization in a literal sense is international integration.[1] It can be described as a process by which the people of the world are unified into a single society and functioning together. This process is a combination of economic, technological, sociocultural and political forces.
Since World War II, barriers to international trade have been considerably lowered through international agreements - General Agreement on Tariffs and Trade (GATT). Particular initiatives carried out as a result of GATT and the World Trade Organisation (WTO)

For

• Brought in competition in Indian market
• Better services now for customers
• Technological advancements
• Infrastructural developments due to forieg investments in less developed countries or areas

Against

• Disadvantage to poorer countries as they are basically agriculture products exporters and the farmers of these countries cannot compete on the international mkts and are forced to sell their products at a lower price.
• In context of Indian youth- mall culture has come up and it is more of a dating place rather than for buying things…thus kind of changing Indian culture
• Many factories are being built as a result pollution is increasing

Hey Gunjan
You seem to be doing some good work buddy.
I have an issue though with the mall and dating thing that you've written as a disadvantage of globalisation. Dont you think its outright parochialiastic to do so. I mean nowdayz one does see couples making out et al in autorickshaws (bbay)...so do we thrash them out??? I think lets look at larger issues rather than haggling over such inconsequential ones.
Good Job.

[gunjanr5]

@ sidrah

hey thanks...well that point was not actually mine, i go to cl n thr in gd sm1 had brought this point that it this polluting our culture.... and i just happen to remember this dating point ;-)

[mockingabird]

The downfall of Indian hockey wasn't unexpected.

Reasons for it:

* Game is all about its players. The IHF does not have enough funding to keep the youngsters at the grass root level interested. There aren't enough training institutions int he country. The players think a million times before weilding the hockey stick as it isnt a lucarative or even a sustainable career option.

* Media has a great role to play in spreading awareness. Whenever a player hits a century in cricket there is such a lot of hue and cry about it. But they seem to propagate a populist culture than enlist their support in uplifting other sports. The public awareness is low.

* We call hockey a "National game". With the nation comes the bureaucracy...! Gill and jyotikumaran have been at the helm of affairs for the last 15 years. I wont attribute the defeat to them. But, I would definitely fault their lack of vision and the fact that a coach like charleswoth has been sidelined. We need to have a board with passionate players who want to do soemthing for the game.


* Promotion of the game : Well, hockey as a game is self promotory. Int he sense that, it is a fast game , an exciting game...! All it needs is an awareness level to watch and appreciate the game. Schools need to promote hockey. colleges and corporates have to enlist their support in promoting the game. There has to be a beginning....!

Well, come on... Lets find out when the next match is going to be played... Lets get there if we have a chance to see it live. Lets watch it on television. Lets start a hockey club in our work places. Lets do something than just whineeeeee!!

[gunjanr5]

Today lets discuss ....
why Airports authority of India (AAI) went on strike....
problems and advantages of privatization of airports of india
what steps were taken to call off the strike
any other solution we can suggest
instances of any such strike and how it was resolved in the past

reason for strike:
the aviation sector is now in for privatization by the govt in the form of a joint venture with private companies. the new airports that are being built are greenfeild airports. A greenfield airport is one which is built from scratch on a new or, undeveloped site. The venture could be entered into on the basis of a Build-Own-Transfer (BOT) arrangement or a Build-Own-Operate (BOO) arrangement.these are modern world class arports.
the strike was against the govts decision to close the old arprts of hyderabad and bangalore and kolkata after the starting of new greenfields airport. the first greenfield airport is near hyderabad with GMR grp having 63% stake, malasiya airports holding berhad having 11%, AAI 13%, Andhra pradesh govt 13% stake. the employees wanted to continue with the old airports as they thought their jobs will be at risk. The continuation of the old airport will not be economically feasible along with the new one, the costs will further increase.

steps to call it off
under the terms of a 2004 agreement with the pvt consortia developing the arprts at hyd and banglre , the govt agreed to stop all comercial operations at old arports after new ones are operational.
Mr. praful patel came up with the compromise formula with 3 assurances
1- no arprt to be closed without consulting them
2- the modernization of 35 non metro arprts will be carried with full involvement of AAI workers
3- he promised to reexamine the agreement of 2004 to identify any shortcommings.

privatization will...
do away with inefficiencies and capital shortages for upgrading facilities

[Di$ha]

Originally Posted by gunjanr5

Today lets discuss ....
why Airports authority of India (AAI) went on strike....
problems and advantages of privatization of airports of india
what steps were taken to call off the strike
any other solution we can suggest
instances of any such strike and how it was resolved in the past

The seeds of privatization has brought long term benefits in many sectors and so would be the case with the aviation system. Privatisation has led to improving the efficiency cutting costs and boosting revenues, introduction of new marketing and management styles. Such bold decisions need to be taken but then the existing work force needs to be given an assurance either to retain them or provide employment at any cost. We cannot afford to increase on the already existing unemployed force. The strike would lead us no where instead it is just creating lot of hue and cry among the Citizens. It needs to be understood that infrastructure sectors such as airports needs are badly in need of expansion and upgradation. We should not leave any stone unturned to boost our economy.When the left parties stage a concern for the same and do not understand the vitality involved then how can we expect the common man to lend support and confidence.I think it’s a welcome development and would surely reap in lot of benefits to the nation and the economy.

[Gitanjali More]

Hi, my first post for a GD topic - the recent drug scene in Goa. The little girl getting murdered, and today's newspapers show news of a German lady suffering the same plight.

Another potential topic would be the law being taken into the hands of the masses - the way they deal with petty criminals/rapists, etc.

I think there's a lot of controversy attached to these topics, providing loads of room for discussion.

[neetugw]

we can discuss the topic:- HR outsourcing: Opportunity or threat

[sidrah]

Gitanjali had mentioned mob voilence, so here's my 2 cents on that.tually colllaps
And yea, HR outsourcing a good topic, which we must discuss.

Vigilantism is a broader and a more generic term than mob-voilence. But for convinience I'll be using it interchangeably.
Last yr, our country witnessed a spate of voilent incidents , which involved the common man taking the law in his hands. It is reflective of the common man's loss of faith in the criminal justice system. Broadly speaking, factors that have lead to such mob- voilence are:
-inefficient police
-shoddy prosecution
-lethargic judiciary
-prisons which allow criminals to carry on their activities and hence perpetrate crime.

The Malimath Committee on judicial reforms in 2004 said that the criminal justice :system of the counrty is "virtually collapsing, ineffective , inefficient ans prohibitingly slow. As a result of which people have been driven to use such desperate and horrible measures. The Committe did suggest some reforms, which were (expectedly) stalled. While the politicians and the beaurocracy want the status quo to continue due to their alleged symbiotic relations, human rights activists dont seem to look beyond the rights of criminals and prisoners.

No wonder in a country where antideluvian laws framed in colonial era exist and reforms nevr seem to take off , do such incidents occur.

This by no means is to jsutify such acts. They are nothing but a wild, brutish sort of justice bereft of any structure and where the opponent has no chance of defence.

In any civilised society such acts are totally unacceptable, much less in a functional democracy and an emerging super- power like India. What we need is immediate reform of the criminal justicde system where justice kis swift, inexpensive and fair.

[Gitanjali More]

Originally Posted by sidrah

Gitanjali had mentioned mob voilence, so here's my 2 cents on that.tually colllaps
And yea, HR outsourcing a good topic, which we must discuss.

Vigilantism is a broader and a more generic term than mob-voilence. But for convinience I'll be using it interchangeably.
Last yr, our country witnessed a spate of voilent incidents , which involved the common man taking the law in his hands. It is reflective of the common man's loss of faith in the criminal justice system. Broadly speaking, factors that have lead to such mob- voilence are:
-inefficient police
-shoddy prosecution
-lethargic judiciary
-prisons which allow criminals to carry on their activities and hence perpetrate crime.

The Malimath Committee on judicial reforms in 2004 said that the criminal justice :system of the counrty is "virtually collapsing, ineffective , inefficient ans prohibitingly slow. As a result of which people have been driven to use such desperate and horrible measures. The Committe did suggest some reforms, which were (expectedly) stalled. While the politicians and the beaurocracy want the status quo to continue due to their alleged symbiotic relations, human rights activists dont seem to look beyond the rights of criminals and prisoners.

No wonder in a country where antideluvian laws framed in colonial era exist and reforms nevr seem to take off , do such incidents occur.

This by no means is to jsutify such acts. They are nothing but a wild, brutish sort of justice bereft of any structure and where the opponent has no chance of defence.

In any civilised society such acts are totally unacceptable, much less in a functional democracy and an emerging super- power like India. What we need is immediate reform of the criminal justicde system where justice kis swift, inexpensive and fair.

inefficient police? makes me wonder when the police is going to be policed themselves! they're the cause of so much grief in the common man's life too! i don't deny that some of them are good, and want to do a good job, but on the whole they're a bunch of corrupt, underpaid individuals (read criminals!) themselves.....
we look at causes - since the police and our justice system is not as efficient as it shd be, ppl take the law into their own hands - that being the most plausible reason.
since the police are highly underpaid, no one wants to join the police force, and since they are underpaid they resort to bribes. and since they know they can get money easily thru bribes, they sit back, relax, get drunk (or watever else they do - no offense to ppl supportive of the police) and are inefficient, which brings us back to where we started...