[juned_mirza]

Originally Posted by cutearchie

hey guys mock gd sounds like a really good idea... so mumbaikars ne plans to meet up and hv a good face to face interaction and clear our doubts.. wat say??

Hey,
why not.........?
Pick every mumbaikar who has got a call from TISS.......
And can we meet on Sunday??

[juned_mirza]

Hey,
Congrats to all call getters!!!!
So.......mumbaikars can we meet up anywhere for the GD........
On any Sundays!!!

[mridzz]

Chennaites... if i have forgot to pm any 1 of u..

We are plannin a meet on saturday/sunday... Plz PM me for details..!

[reetisri]

people from Bhubaneswar lets make a group

[Subrat.etc]

Originally Posted by reetisri

people from Bhubaneswar lets make a group

Had made the call earlier also...bt didnt get any response.......from any corner

[arulprakash]

This was supposed to be a GD/PI discussion thread but no 1 has started discussing any relevant topics, its better if we can do some discussing right ea, instead of posting announcements here create a new thread for finding partners to do GD in your city..because posting announcements of city meets in this thread doesn't make it useful...

k let me start off..with a topic,this one is a bit controversial and a hot topic for years not only in india but across the globe..

Is capital punishment justified?

my stand

1. Lets take china for a example...capital punishment is very common in china, Most of the cases handed out Drug smugglers, So the government of China thinks that drug smuggling deserves the most severe of judicial punishment .The belief being this will deter other from committing the crime in fear of the punishment but Drug smuggling in China has increased in the last decade in China , so what is wrong in China's policy, The problem lies in the social and economic disparity .it seems people don't care about death penalty,So death penalty doesn't deter them after all.
2. Most convicts serve long terms in prison before the execution. Every day they have to undergo the mental agony of waiting for their eventual execution. This, in itself, is the harshest punishment that civil society can ever give to anyone. Eg: Dhananjoy Chatterjee spent 14 years in Alipore Jail in Kolkata before execution. During this time he was said to be mentally shaken due to the prolonged wait for his execution.

3.Death penalty in India is awarded only in the ‘rarest of rare’ cases as stated by the Supreme Court. However, the interpretation is open to scrutiny and hence the judgment is solely at the discretion of the judge. Eg: Prof S.A.R. Geelani was awarded the death penalty for his alleged involvement in the Parliament attacks of December 13, 2001 by a POTA court in Delhi. However, the high court acquitted him of all charges since the evidence was insufficient. Counter point: A death penalty awarded by a lower court is automatically referred to the high court of that state for confirmation.Hence, S.A.R Geelani’s case proves that the system does not bring injustice to the innocent.
4.In a civil society, no one should have the right to take the life of another including The State. Counter point: If society has no right to take life, then what of mercy killings?.
5.Death penalty involves cruel form of torture viz hanging by the neck till death.
6.It is a relic of barbarism extending the principle of a life for a life.

[Subrat.etc]

Is capital punishment justified?

1.Capital punishment may kill one criminal for committing one crime.But the crime in itself is not killed. I feel crime can be controlled only when people are made aware of the dreaded consequence of commiting such crimes.And capital punishment doesnt create that sense of fear. A criminal who for example has the soul to do mass murder or rape will never be intimidated by the simpole thought of getting hanged and bearing the pain for few seconds.

I would rather stand for a system of punishment which creates a sense of fear in the mind of people.The thought of the consequence itself should stop them from committing the crime.Say for example one who involves himself in mass murder could be punished with his hand being cut making him handicapped forever or somthing of this sort.

One such punishment and the entire nation would be shocked. This shock factor itself would be enough to shake the criminal world. Just imagine the condition of a dreaded ex-criminal living in a society, abandoned by the society and handicapped.And no one can argue on the humanitarian side of it as the crime he commited of murdering 10 innocent people - father of some one, sole bread earner of any big family, husband of a newly wed and so on- is more henious and the punishment shud be equally henious.

Regards

[Simple123]

Originally Posted by Subrat.etc

Is capital punishment justified?

1.Capital punishment may kill one criminal for committing one crime.But the crime in itself is not killed. I feel crime can be controlled only when people are made aware of the dreaded consequence of commiting such crimes.And capital punishment doesnt create that sense of fear. A criminal who for example has the soul to do mass murder or rape will never be intimidated by the simpole thought of getting hanged and bearing the pain for few seconds.

I would rather stand for a system of punishment which creates a sense of fear in the mind of people.The thought of the consequence itself should stop them from committing the crime.Say for example one who involves himself in mass murder could be punished with his hand being cut making him handicapped forever or somthing of this sort.

One such punishment and the entire nation would be shocked. This shock factor itself would be enough to shake the criminal world. Just imagine the condition of a dreaded ex-criminal living in a society, abandoned by the society and handicapped.And no one can argue on the humanitarian side of it as the crime he commited of murdering 10 innocent people - father of some one, sole bread earner of any big family, husband of a newly wed and so on- is more henious and the punishment shud be equally henious.

Regards

Thats really an extreme thinking.If a person is sadist or I should say take pleasure in killing people then I believe society too shudn't behave in the same manner.if the same behaviour is metted out to the person,it would reinforce his idea of committing atrocities on people and making him handicapped and leaving him on his own would make him /her hate society even more and the hatred stays in the socirty.Rather than that he shud be given life imprisonment and should be made to provide renumeration for the victim's family by working hard or by selling off his assets.He should be made to compulsarily read good books and something on these lines.
But cutting somone's hand off is barbaric I feel.

[arulprakash]

Originally Posted by Subrat.etc

Is capital punishment justified?

1.Capital punishment may kill one criminal for committing one crime.But the crime in itself is not killed. I feel crime can be controlled only when people are made aware of the dreaded consequence of commiting such crimes.And capital punishment doesnt create that sense of fear. A criminal who for example has the soul to do mass murder or rape will never be intimidated by the simpole thought of getting hanged and bearing the pain for few seconds.

I would rather stand for a system of punishment which creates a sense of fear in the mind of people.The thought of the consequence itself should stop them from committing the crime.Say for example one who involves himself in mass murder could be punished with his hand being cut making him handicapped forever or somthing of this sort.

One such punishment and the entire nation would be shocked. This shock factor itself would be enough to shake the criminal world. Just imagine the condition of a dreaded ex-criminal living in a society, abandoned by the society and handicapped.And no one can argue on the humanitarian side of it as the crime he commited of murdering 10 innocent people - father of some one, sole bread earner of any big family, husband of a newly wed and so on- is more henious and the punishment shud be equally henious.

Regards

Well this type of punishment is seen in some of the countries of the middle east were the shariah law from the quran are followed, though it is in practice It is , Such type of punishment will bring paranoih to the public and a clear case of human rights violation.It is not a solution but a problem in itself

[kaustavio]

Originally Posted by Subrat.etc

Is capital punishment justified?

1.Capital punishment may kill one criminal for committing one crime.But the crime in itself is not killed. I feel crime can be controlled only when people are made aware of the dreaded consequence of commiting such crimes.And capital punishment doesnt create that sense of fear. A criminal who for example has the soul to do mass murder or rape will never be intimidated by the simpole thought of getting hanged and bearing the pain for few seconds.

I would rather stand for a system of punishment which creates a sense of fear in the mind of people.The thought of the consequence itself should stop them from committing the crime.Say for example one who involves himself in mass murder could be punished with his hand being cut making him handicapped forever or somthing of this sort.

One such punishment and the entire nation would be shocked. This shock factor itself would be enough to shake the criminal world. Just imagine the condition of a dreaded ex-criminal living in a society, abandoned by the society and handicapped.And no one can argue on the humanitarian side of it as the crime he commited of murdering 10 innocent people - father of some one, sole bread earner of any big family, husband of a newly wed and so on- is more henious and the punishment shud be equally henious.

Regards

Though what my friend here says is really extreme and harsh to think of, it has created a sense of fear among people who commit such crimes and hence do not commit them at all. but as rightly put it is not a solution rather a problem in it self. We need to understand that a society means a gathering of people and ideas and thoughts which culminate into Peace and harmony where in the introduction of barbaric laws would only create an environment of lawlessness and fear.

Capital Punishment in my opinion is unjustified. It is an easy escape for a person who has commited a crime demanding such a judgement without realizing the graveness of the crime. Though in the heat of revenge it seems completely justified and hence the people associated with the victim feel a sense of relief, yet it is shortlived. It does not bring back the people that are lost.

it is necessary for us to strenghten our justice system so that a person committing such a crime feels repentance for the crime and as a result is brought back to society wherein he can contribute rather than destroy.
We should understand that not all crimes are created in cold blood. the circumstances in which crimes are committed should be considered before declaring such a harsh verdict on somebody.

though principally "Capital Punishment" cannot be removed from the justice system. It should be a verdict used only in the rarest of occasions.