[I Must]

Originally Posted by harshaoz

Hey Swati,

you are right
no point in increasing thread posts without any value add

But the only reason we have PUNE,BLORE,MUMBAI etc is that at least it gives a chance for a lot of ppl from that region to get together and share views more dynamically

as you know its not possible to do this b/w cities and this way we could a get a lil more insight into the course as well as each other and how we can genuillly learn from one another
Its in a way true that it it regional , but hey, if we look at the bigger picture we each in our oqn lil way help each other.

Our region is nothing more than a coincidence and therfore what we could do is after each group does reserach on each topic we could take this up more vigoursely with other regions as well benefitting all

I request all puys to view this procedure with a more open mind and not bring it down to blore Vs. Pune etc

Peace and Best of luck

harsha

Hi,

I understand your concern and need for this group preparation. But there is no point if each day one guy/gal comes and post "Any one from X city?". Rite? Kindly take some pain to go through few pages in the thread or PM to those with location as X city.Even myself and a puy is trying to form a group in Chennai. We are working on it thro PMs and other chat applications.

Lets resume using this thread as common pitch for our preparation rather than for finding our own city aspiarants.

[calvin_wonders]

There's one thing i have experienced on this TISS thread .
I had thought of letting it carry on but it's obvious that in the end we all loose.

See,the very reason pagalguy became famous was that you will find quality content here organised in a user friendly manner.None of the littering or spamming or other nonsense.For this purpose Allwin ( the man who started Pagalguy) had always insisted on certain rules to be followed.

They were common sense things like -
1)Any post in a thread should be relevant to topic
for eg it it is chineese noodles the discussion is about chineese noodles and not amritsari pathoora !

Reason being obvious : everything gets cluttered.If you talk CAT ,talk CAT.For XAT we have different thread

You can check the rules here .

So if you post something irrelevamt to a thread it is deleted by mods.
Now problem is TISS is in a different category of its own.

We have a lot of people joining on TISS thread with no idea about all those things.

So we have two solutions-
1)Call mods in and get all irrelevant posts deleted
and The puys who hav been on pagalguy for a while help the new people joining by politely pointing them to guidelines.

or the seond idea is that since this thread has become too cluttered and would continue to do so ,
All the people who are interested in useful discussion can move over to a thread which is properly moderated.

I think it's high time we started some proper discussion.

Here's the new thread (TISS 2008 GDPI preparation- A Topic a Day !) and please stick to guidelines

[GeminiGal]

Originally Posted by swati4mba

Apart from that, I wanted to say, why not start GD here, as well.


Peace and Harmony
Swati

Hi All,

I am posting a topic for GD and some views on it.
"Foreign Direct Investment in Education sector"

1) Indian economy is incurring an expense of more than $4 billion every year because of the fact that thousands of Indian students are going to America and Europe for higher education. If foreign universities are allowed in India, much of this money can be saved.

2)If foreign universities are allowed in India, students from neighbouring countries will come to India , as this will turn India on a regional hub for education.

3)HRD Ministry and Leftist partie sare opposing this as they will it will commercialize education.



Source:Rediff.com

Please let me know your views on the same.

Regards,
GeminiGal

[ANGELNIDZ]

gd/pi will take place in april... i called tiss today and was informed abt the same...

hmmmm....

[shivikapur]

hi
FDI for education seems like a good idea as long its kept within limits. one cannot forget the fact that without a doubt these institutes will be expensive.. and this expense can further create a divide among the rich and the poor. Children from govt schools are already facing trouble regarding infrasrtucuctural as well as academic facilities... we cannot further widen the gap...

first, the quality of education within India should be improved... as the grass roots level...
also, what about the already existing educational institutions in india.. wont they get effected by it? they will also lose out on students if worthy and good institutes come to india.. india will incur a greater loss of money if students start joining other foreign instititutes within India.
thats my point of view... i might be wrong though...
regards

[kaustavio]

Originally Posted by GeminiGal

Hi All,

I am posting a topic for GD and some views on it.
"Foreign Direct Investment in Education sector"

1) Indian economy is incurring an expense of more than $4 billion every year because of the fact that thousands of Indian students are going to America and Europe for higher education. If foreign universities are allowed in India, much of this money can be saved.

2)If foreign universities are allowed in India, students from neighbouring countries will come to India , as this will turn India on a regional hub for education.

3)HRD Ministry and Leftist partie sare opposing this as they will it will commercialize education.



Source:Rediff.com

Please let me know your views on the same.

Regards,
GeminiGal

hi Geminigal... thanks for the relevant topic for disciussion started by you.

first of all lets understand the level at which we preently are with respect to education.

though India has been the centre of learning in the past still we face the daunting task of attaing atleast 75 % literacy in our country. Our nation Boasts of one of the best technical and professional institutes in the world yet we are behind in many respects.

the question which many reformists in and out of the government are pondering upon is whether to allow Foreign direct investment in the field of education. as it is mandatory according to the General agreement in trade and services(GATS) for us to open over education sector to the world.

What are the basic advantages that are we to gain from this.
1. as you correctly mentioned Indian economy is incurring an expense of more than $4 billion every year because of the fact that thousands of Indian students are going to America and Europe for higher education. If foreign universities are allowed in India, much of this money can be saved.
2.There are limited seats in Indian colleges and universities. So, allowing FDI would increase more opportunities to study for Indian students.
3.Many students are going abroad to pursue higher education. If foreign universities come to India, then some of these students will surely stay in India and study here.
4. FDI in the education sector will attract the best universities, the best professors and the best research facilities for the indian students.

these are a few disadvantages.
1. Affect on basic inidan culture.
2.the instituitions coming to india will only come to make money and not make india a better nation.


this sector has a great oppurtunity as regard to the bulk of indian students travelling abroad for studies and as a result of this they would be attracted to satay in india eventually stopping Brain drain.

Please puys continue with your views

thanks
Kaustav

[itsaekta]

Hi,

1. This move will not only facilitate students who have plans to go abroad for studies.. but also encourage the major lot who have to drop plans of higher education for the fear of moving away form the country, safety concerns abroad, family issues etc. So it will be a major push to the ones on the fence.

2. It should also cut down on the fees spent by students overall (considering hostel, mess, etc wont be mandatory)

3. Courses like Pharmacy which hold a much greater reputation in countries like Switzerland and US than what it holds here will, through their courses, show India a picture of the changing senario and improve the scope of such subjects, thus encouraging students to opt for a specialisation after their Bachelors degree.

Explanation for puys:
DIfference here lies in the scope a student holds after doing an M.Pharm (Masters in India, other than NIPER ofcourse) and an M.S. (Masters abroad)
Both M.Pharm & M.S. are post-graduate courses after Bachelor's program in pharmacy. Most of the students who are technically inclined to Pharma opt for M.S. over M.Pharm (Bcoz getting thru a NIPER is too difficult)

other views???

[arulprakash]

Originally Posted by kaustavio

hi Geminigal... thanks for the relevant topic for disciussion started by you.

first of all lets understand the level at which we preently are with respect to education.

though India has been the centre of learning in the past still we face the daunting task of attaing atleast 75 % literacy in our country. Our nation Boasts of one of the best technical and professional institutes in the world yet we are behind in many respects.

the question which many reformists in and out of the government are pondering upon is whether to allow Foreign direct investment in the field of education. as it is mandatory according to the General agreement in trade and services(GATS) for us to open over education sector to the world.

What are the basic advantages that are we to gain from this.
1. as you correctly mentioned Indian economy is incurring an expense of more than $4 billion every year because of the fact that thousands of Indian students are going to America and Europe for higher education. If foreign universities are allowed in India, much of this money can be saved.
2.There are limited seats in Indian colleges and universities. So, allowing FDI would increase more opportunities to study for Indian students.
3.Many students are going abroad to pursue higher education. If foreign universities come to India, then some of these students will surely stay in India and study here.
4. FDI in the education sector will attract the best universities, the best professors and the best research facilities for the indian students.

these are a few disadvantages.
1. Affect on basic inidan culture.
2.the instituitions coming to india will only come to make money and not make india a better nation.


this sector has a great oppurtunity as regard to the bulk of indian students travelling abroad for studies and as a result of this they would be attracted to satay in india eventually stopping Brain drain.

Please puys continue with your views

thanks
Kaustav

FDI in education is only a temporary solution. If a political party is looking for a political mileage then they might do this, but on the long run this is not the best solution.Instead of bringing foreign universities to India we need to invest more in this sector so that our education system develops in stature .This may take longer duration to produce results but it is sustainable in the long run and will give 100% liquidity within our market .
2.FDI for infrastructure development of educational institutions can be allowed .It is needed as liquidity needed for infrastructure projects are very high due to the booming real estate market...
3. Foreign institutes cann be allowed to collabrate with local universities so our universities get the exposure

[arulprakash]

1. Aging and its social complication... "the second childishness" were every action requires an helping hand. For some lucky few help is just a smile away but for other its a struggle. They are the lot who were abandoned by the society, deemed no longer useful left all alone to fight for their themselves .They are the people who worked their entire life to make their families ends meet . They didn't plan their retirement , they didn't plan, not because they weren't aware but because they cared for their loved sons they wanted to give everything that they had...Only a few land in old age houses and the rest wander off into the sun never to return

2. insecurity- even if they manage to save something for living a peaceful life after retirement. the old people living alone face many dangers .old people living on their own are easy target to burglars and convicts.They dont think much just kill them as we can see from they alrming number of such incidents

3. why is this suddenly happening in India?? A country known for its family values and bonding..Does that mean we are moving towards the western culture ?? .Well the answer to this is Quite frightening to say the least ...Never has a nation we felt so insecure that we might lose our identity as unique culture. Superpower status doesn't only depend on economic growth but it also needs social stability...to want to add some more

[GeminiGal]

Originally Posted by kaustavio

hi Geminigal... thanks for the relevant topic for disciussion started by you.

Foreign direct investment in the field of education. as it is mandatory according to the General agreement in trade and services(GATS) for us to open over education sector to the world.

these are a few disadvantages.
2.the instituitions coming to india will only come to make money and not make india a better nation

1 )But correct me if i am wrong, the third world and muslim nations have told WTO that they will not open their education sector to foreign universities. So even if India denies, we would not be the sole ones to have gone against WTO...in other words, i am not sure if it is mandatory

2)Also think in this way that a new college is set up in India. So it will require people to carry out basic operations in managing college affairs, so it will employ Indian people there...so in other words it would create employment opportunities....Please correct me if i am wrong.

Regards,
GeminiGal