[catfever]

Hi Everyone,

Second Round Process for SJMSOM - one of the premier management Institute in India has already started. Please start posting your experiences soon so that other guys can benefit.

An astonishing amount of thanks reserved for the guy who post first.(Indiguy in this case .Eagerly looking fwd to interview details from u)

For the benefit of everyone concerned, please keep the format like this:


PROFILE:

Acads:
X
XII
Undergrad Major - GPA/%age

Work-Ex:
NIL/Sector - Number of Years - Country

JMET Rank

Any other special thing abt u:


GD:
Topic:
Number of Ppl present
Time:
Brief Snapshot of Discussion:
Other Salient Details: As whether summary was asked to be written or not, Time given, and other stuff.

PI:
Panel Members Intro:
Questions:

MISC.
Any other relevant detail like they r checking certis, taking attested copies or else

[IndiGuy]

Had MY gd pi in the morn 8.00 today

just came home so ill just type a short summary now...more deatils later in the evening




PROFILE:

Acads:
X 90

XII 90
Undergrad Major - GPA/%age 72%

Work-Ex:
NIL----fresher

JMET Rank 107



GD:
Topic: case study on TCS
Number of Ppl present 8--i think...dont rem exactly
Time: 5min for reading....20 min discussion
Brief Snapshot of Discussion: not exactly a fishmarket...guess everyone got to speak their point....although a person seemed to be a self appointed leader....was asking questions and doubts to othe candidates during gd
Other Salient Details : no summary asked
PI:
Panel Members : 2
Questions:


am from IT so asked many technical questions since am a fresher...on databases,
OS....some were asked statistics too

MISC.
they r checking certis, taking attested copies and they make u fill a form on which the panelists ask questions,,,sop was not asked to anybody before me or to me...however we had to give it to them



met the seniors over there...pretty cool presentation...overall ok gd--pi



more details later...i have to eat now

[PHEONIX_RISES]

PROFILE:

Acads:
X:88.5
XII:83


Work-Ex:
2 yrs+
JMET Rank: 55



GD:

Number of Ppl present:9
Time:20 mins and 5 mins to think (enough time to talk)

Topic: Attrition in a company,has no hr department at bangalore..views of diffrent junior
managers on why attrtion is taking place...
Q>hr dep req
Q>how to get hr dep sactioned from delhi
Q>what kind of organizational structure do you have..

gd went on smoothly..i was very happy at the end of it..
except for a self made moderator who was getting on everyones nerves
he ofcourse surely got himself rejected their itself..did ruin the gd for
some other people though...i got to make 6-7 good points so just ignored him

i dont know where do these charcters come from , dont have any clue what the gd is all
about...he was smug and happy at the end of it..there were other people their
who wanted to punch him.

PI
was ok
Q> work ex..about my company
Q>diff java and c++
answered well

Q> why is c++ not a complete oops lang is java
i didnt ans ,this one i didnt know
(prof in panel 3 was s/w guy loves s/w)
discussion on programming practices and i told him how we actually prog
it in gamming and dont follow many of the normal conventions to save memory

Q>is operator overloading their in java
Q>how do you port games on diff mobiles
Q>diff between pc and mobile game prog
Q>on my extra curriculars,debating competition
Q>abt my work ex in prev company
Q>my designation in my present company
Q> abt my BE marks and rank in college(noted it down on the form)
Q>Is multiplayer gamming possible in mobile phones?

It was a pretty chilled interview,(no statistics) they panel were very keen during the interview but i think they had made up their mind pretty fast about me..not much grilling
I hope its positive..but i wont call the pi a great performance..but i dont think it
was bad enough either to cancel my rank and gd performance and work ex either.

So pretty happy about it and hoping for the best.

All the best to everyone on the forum
..this was 5th and my last interview,with iift convert,fms (wl)
and 3 iit results yet to come..i am singing off for some time and going to chill out..dont know where as yet but surely will be doing my mba this year...

[santiago]

Already made a huge post in the other thread will copy the same here..


Seems that i am going to be the first to post about GD/PI of SJMSoM 2007. This is going to be a long post so i will split it inti two parts..GD and then the PI....

Some background..:

10th: 88% (CBSE)
12th:86% (kar State)
Engg:72 % (VTU , Karnatake)
JMET Rank: 177

My first EVER GD/PI .Never attended the TIME/IMS GD/PI coaching either. Never been to Bombay too..

First Impressions : Stayed in a hotel in Andheri east. LOVED Bombay so far. Traffic seems OK coming from bangalore , ppl are friendly , the place is great.Sort of a mixture of Goa and a big city. It does not have the big city feel though..Could be that i am wrong, since i have travelled only from Andheri to Powai.

Reached IIT at 12:15 , slot was at 1:30. SoM is a building tucked away in the IIT campus. Was pretty much relaxed as i had decided what my future course of action vis-a vis MBA would be. Was directed to the Sjmsom audi where the documents were checked. The ppl there were a mix of old hands at MBA business, ppl desperate to get any college after three years of frustration, ppl with IIM calls, even a fresher whose mom promised him Iron Maiden tickets if he came to the interview..

We were split into groups as Floyd introduced us to SoM with a ppt..

[santiago]

I was in the group meant for panel 4. We were a group of 10 and were called in the same order to the GD room. paper was provided and there were spots marked 1 to 10 where we had to sit in a certain order. It should be noted that we had not mentioned our rank anywhere in the whole process as it was thought that that would bias the panel...a nice touch...There were two people in the panel ,an older gentleman(P1) and a younger guy (P2).It was learnt that later the same panel would be taking our interview in the same order as we were seated.

As it was my first GD i was pretty excited ,and boy was i in for a shock!!
It was a case study which went like this...

A law firm based in Delhi decides to set up a branch in Bangalore.However it was learnt that due to various reasons, compensation not being one of them, youngsters were quitting the firm. One of the reasons was not having an HR dept.

1. Should there be an HR dept? If yes, what should be its functions?
2. How to convince the top brass about the need for HR dept?
3. What is the organizational structure.

As soon as the panel gave the signal to start, all hell broke loose...I thought a GD would be a discussion like the one friends have over a bag of chips and pepsi, however this one turned out to be like the discussion one would have haggling with the ladies at the fish market. One suddenly realizes why Gds are sometime termed fish market....

As 3-4 people started trying out for the guiness book for the loudest voice, i tried to get into the GD, but alas ,posessing a voice not even fit to get into the local gymkhana record books, i was sadly beaten back. 3-4 ppl, myself included had to suffer the humiliation of being told by the panel to speak ,while they shut the others up. After 20 mins of this shouting competition, we were asked to go back to the audi. The winners were seen congratulating themselves with comments like "Cracked it yaar, i made 10 points". This left me wondering if in addition to all the prep i have to make for CAT, i have to exercise my vocal chords too...I think i need to get to at least the limca record level....

PS:The ppl who were shouting justified the GD saying that its cut throat competition, if you dont step over ppl, they step over you. This was a guy who had IIM calls. While i understand where he comes from, being a little accomodating or a little polite dosnt hurt anyone...., I think the panel would understand if you gave chance to someone else too..Maybe i should try being a little more agressive too.. what say puys??

[santiago]

After the horror GD, was waiting to be called for the interview.Was called near the end. Learnt from the previous guys that P1 was an HR guy, while P2 was technical. prayed that P1 would ask most of the qns as i remember as much of my engg as Homer Simpson of his nuclear reactor training...

P1: Why SoM?
Me:One Of the best B schools in the country..
P1: How do yo know?
me: decided based on various parameters..
P1:what parameters?
melacements..
P1:how are the placements.
me:quoted some mugged up figures....
Also thru some seniors...
P1:who?
me:ramesh and shekhar..
P1: (Knowing Smile..)
P1:what do you do after work?
Me: ( This was the qn i was waiting for...i could lead him into the hobbies trap and make him ask me a few qns on that, thus leaving less time for tech qns..)

Reading, Quizzing ,sports. I am also interested in American Pop Culture...(Notice the clever quirky hobby at the end..this is the hobby trap,i was sure the next qns would be on that and i was well prepared to lead him on a merry dance...)

P1: Excuse me, i have to go out...
Me: ( What the HELL!!! )

I now turned to P2...here come the technical....

P2:which branch did you say you were in?
Me:Elex

P2: i see you had operations reasearch and management in your final sem..

Me: (My heart which had been floating sunk like the titanic..)
Yes..

P2: Tell abt some ppl who contributed to Opns Mgmt?
Meont recall (like 99% of my engg!!)
P2:tell me abt the Big M method.
Me: Its a quantitative method to optimize output from a give set of raw materials.

P2making a face)I see you had optic fibres..
Me: yes.
P2;why dont ppl use ofibress widely?
Me:Blah blah.

P2:what the bandwidth?
Me:Infinite.

P2:why what flows through it?
Me:light
P2:whats light made of ?
Mehotons..

p2hotons,electrons,they are the same, why doesnt normal wire offer infinite BW?
Me:blah blah again..(Notice i can blah blah abt stuff i know very little about..its how i passed my engg...)

p2:tell me about your final year project?
Me: (YES,something i actually know abt, since i worked my a@# off for this)
Its implementation of Triple DES using FPGA....

P2: Lot of qns on cryptography..
Me: (Since it was my fav subject, could ans most of them)

P2: Asked about GPUs...
Me: (Again a reasonably comfrtable topic,since im into gaming)

P2: (Some more tech qns that i had no idea abt).
Me: Dont know sir.

P1 returns:You may leave now...

Me: Thank you sir.(Relief)


PS: My first exp of a big B school interview,hopefuly not my last..Competition is indeed cut throat, met many who were frustrsted at this repeated process and wanted any coll they could get, many who were hopeful of getting IIMs next year. Of Course there were cocky ones who brandied their IIM calls and certis from various colleges,in short it was a learning experience....

PS 2:End my longest post ever in PG, hope this will help other puys...My learnings at the interview..brush up on acads,current affair(esp eco ones that occured in the last two three months right upto interview day....,be a little considerate )

PS 3: Saw many student volunteers working very hard. A big thank you to them...

[profootball25]

Originally Posted by PHEONIX_RISES

Topic: Attrition in a company,has no hr department at bangalore..views of diffrent junior
managers on why attrtion is taking place...
Q>hr dep req
Q>how to get hr dep sactioned from delhi
Q>what kind of organizational structure do you have..

Y is SOM repeating last years cases ????
Please check this ....
http://www.pagalguy.com/forum/676855-post15.html

@santiago
I think u had a lot of PGites in ur group ..
that cd be the only reason why they were fighting for air time ...

Ab bolo mat kal bhi same case denge

[amitnsitian]

had my GD PI yesterday

GD - case study on TCS - went Okish types

PI - awful ! acads of college arbit stuff abt general things which i had never heard ! watever was taken left right and center for those 10 minutes

ATB to all

[thakurpratyush]

PROFILE:


X:- 70.6
XII:- 86.2
Undergrad Major - Mechanical Engineering,71.5%
Work-Ex: Maruti Udyog Ltd 33 months.
JMET Rank:- 6

16/3/07 01.30 pm slot.

GD:- Case study about HR department in a law firm. I think this has been repeated from last year. I had read it somewhere in PG. Anyways, GD went ok. I came in once or twice with some points but wouldn’t rate my performance top class.

PI:- Mine was the first interview. There were two profs P1 and P2. I went inside and sat on the chair and found out that it was inclining backwards. I asked the profs about a chair change but they said it was safe to sit on it. I smiled and said it’s ok in that case, sir. J

P1:- Tell us about yourself. Family background, educatation etc.
Me:- Told about everything and stressed more on my work experience.
P1:- What was your rank in college?
Me:- 28 out of 110 students.
P2:- Ok you are mechanical engineer. Tell us about the differences between petrol and diesel engine.
Me:- Told
P2:- Which is more powerful?
Me:- Petrol engine
P2:- How is the cooling of engines done and what is the difference between that of petrol and diesel engines?
Me:- Told about the water jackets etc.
P2:- What type of cooling is it air, water, oil?
Me:- Water cooled with coolant dissolved in water.
P2:- Can you tell about the latest developments in this field?
Me:- Sir, I’m not involved in engine design, so don’t know about that.( A smile of course on my face J )
P2:- Ok it’s alright.
P1:- Did you read Industrial Engineering and OR in college?
Me:- Yes sir.
P1:- Do you remember Linear Programming?
Me:- Yes sir, a little bit.
P1:- Gave some problem about the product mix of a factory and started asking about contribution and some other term which I didn’t know.
Me:- Wrote the problem statement and explained but told that this is it about linear programming.
P1:- Ok, if you don’t remember we wont grill you on that. Do you remember Statistics?
Me:- Yes sir, a bit. I had read it in higher secondary.
P1:- Told some term of statistics which I din’t know. Then said, what do you remember?
Me:- I remember normal distribution curve and elaborated. Made a diagram and properly explained.
P1:- What is Poisson’s distribution?
Me:- Sir it is used in case of discrete distribution.
P2:- What is hobbing?
Me:- Sir, it is a gear cutting process.
P1:- Any alternate process?
Me:- Sir, milling. We performed milling to cut involute gears in college.
P2:- Ok , tell us about the designing of fuel tanks ( related to my work-ex) from the beginning, material selection.
Me:- Explained in detail.
P2:- Cutting me in between, tell us how do you test the strength.
Me:- Told about CAE.
P1:- Which software do you use for that?
Me:- We use Altair and then continued with the testing method.
P2:- Can you tell the strength analysis on a stress strain curve?
Me:- Sir we do design empirically. We have some engineering standards which we follow at the time of design.
P2:- Got convinced.
Me:- Sir, should I carry on with the explanation of fuel tank design.
P2:- No no it’s ok. Tell about the material which u use and it’s spec.
Me:- Told about it.
P1:- Why don’t we use HRC(hot rolled) instead or CRC(cold rolled).
Me:- Explained.
P2:- How is CR steel produced?
Me:- Using cold roll mills. Rolling process is used to make sheets from slabs.
P1:- You have written about music in your extra currics. Which awards have you won?
Me:- Elaborated in detail.
P1:- Have you taken any formal training?
Me:- Yes sir I have taken and I am still pursuing Hindustani classical music.
P1:- Who has bought this tie for you?
Me:- My fiancé has bought it.
P1:- Which brand?
Me: Zodiac.
P2:- What other brands of ties are available in market?
Me:- Sir, I am not aware as generally I don’t wear ties.
Then some light discussion about brands. They said why do people run behind brands these days. I said very limited time available for shopping so people take good brands which are associated with good quality. They were convinced and smiling.
P1:- Which newspapers do you read?
Me:- TOI
P1:- Any other?
Me:- I used to read ET but not these days.
P1:- You are saying this so that we don’t ask questions from that. (Smiles)
Me:- No sir, please feel free to ask.
P2:- Have you heard about this heating of economy?
Me:- Sir overheating of economy……… explained in detail about inflation, inclusive growth. Goldman Sach’s report, Economic survey, budget.
P1:- About growth, contribution of various sectors.
Me:- Told and elaborated on the auto sector.
P1 and P2:- Smiling and nodding. Ok, good, thank you very much.
Me:- Thank you very much sir.

Came out very happy.Got very positive signs from the paneltists' body language. I think I had a good interview and was able to impress the panel. Waiting for the results in April.

[sk21166]

Date: 16th Mar 2007; 1:30 to 6:30 slot
Acads:
X:83.6%
XII:79%
Undergrad Major - 81% Mech Engg. from JNTU, Hyderabad

Work-Ex: 34 months-Engg. Design

JMET Rank:86

Case Study Topic: Law firm facing attrition-need for HR dept?-how is it to be pitched to the top management?
Number of Ppl present:10
Time: did not note the time. But I guess it went on for more than 20 minutes
Brief Snapshot of Discussion: Came in arnd 4-5 times with valid points. Felt the discussion did not go on well with one member even declaring that
"we all know HR dept is the most hated dept. in any company".

PI:
2 panel members--One prof from IT(P2) and the other could not be identified by even the SOM seniors(P1)
Questions:

P1-Tell us abt urself.
M-Gave him the usual stuff.
P2- So what do you do in your job?
M-Design of some products for a big US co and gave him the fundas of the work that I do.
P1- So you have worked on some projects. What was the latest one?
M-replied abt the latest design that we have come up with and told abt its relevance to the US market...
P1-What is rapid prototyping?
M-Told the same.
P2-I did not know that your company even dealt with Engg. services. I think it was totally IT related.
M- Assured him about the existance of my kind of work in my co and told him abt the growing market for this..P2 felt satisfied.
P2- Ok tell me abt the contribution of IT to India's GDP.
M-I dont know the exact figures sir??:...arre yaar he was a systems prof and the first guy he could catch was me only with a mech background. he tried to move the topic to IT always:neutral:.
P2- ok...there is an association which deals with IT services industry in India. Do you know what it is?
M- I think it is NASSCOM.
P2- Whats the full form?
M- told him it was National Association of Software Companies but I think it is National Association of Software and Services Companies. Puys, please do correct me on this.
P1 then dropped a googly...He asked me "What is FMS???:"
M- Sir...Do you mean...
Before I completed, he said "Yes, I am talking about Flexible Manufacturing Systems". I heaved a sigh of relief as the only FMS that I knew was the one in Delhi and I would have made a complete ass of myself had I blurted it out.
P2 asked a couple of questions on my extra currics.
P2-Compare your co with the rest of the 3 Indian IT bigwigs.
M- Went into a lambaa baashan on this for around 5 minutes.
P2- Have you given CAT?
M-Yes sir...got 98.1%ile with
P2- Ok then...have you applied to any other IITs?
M- No sir..only to IIT B.
P2- Ok then...You can go.

Total time was arnd 15-18 minutes. I think I escaped because the panelists were from Info Systems background and were infact searching for questions to ask. All other guys in my batch had a field day answering the IT questions asked. My last MBA interview of the season wouldnt have ended on a better note!!

Cheers,
SK