[babubhaskaran]

Originally Posted by gaurav200x

Thanks for the answer babu bhai.. and i would be waiting for the other answers as well...

Please tell me, what is ur stance when u compare HR with other mgmt fields? Where do u find HR , in that case? What's the current status of HR, in India today.....

what're its scope and future pospects?

I think I have answered part of the question "current status of HR" in the previous post. and have dealt with future prospects too... cant really compare other mgmt fields with HR. every function has a different role to play.

[gaurav200x]

Olrite! But can u answer my remaining questions as wel?

[babubhaskaran]

Knowledge workers- Will they ever Unioninse?
Hindutva makes a mockery of Hindus
Euthanasia
Corruption is an economic lubricant and hence not all that bad
Indiviudalisam or collectivisim - which is the more relevant philosophy for today?
A nationalis t or globalist citizen - which u prefer
Is social development possible without population control
shud mercy killing be lega,llised
gender equality in BPO sector
who rules the world- MNCC's or politics
Mgmt Institues shud churn out job providers and not Job seekers
reservation of women in top managenment position
liberalised economy and sustained social security - an antitheseis or synthesis

[babubhaskaran]

Hi friends...

here is a lowdown on my GD PI experience (june 10,2005)..
for the essay we were given 3 topics

Injustice against women -causes and consequences
Caste based voilence in elections
Role of IT in rural development..

I chose the 3rd one.. and i wrote about 2 and 1/2 pages.... to be very frank that was the first essay that i wrote after i passed out of college...( it was not that i was very confident and so no practise but i had converted MDI Gurgaon, so i just came to TISS GD PI to draw from the experience... after admissions into MDI i was on the releived side and so was not preparing hard for TISS..)

Then the GD the topics were
SHould social scciences or Physical sciences be given more importance in the curriculum.
Human resources or financial resources ,which is more important

every body jumped to the 2nd topic ... i did not start the GD but i made 6 contributions two of them backed with real corporate examples.........

the interview was conducted by a panel of 3....... no stress.. they made us feel completely at home....... it was mainly a general interview .. but there were a few questions that pertained to my BMS final year.(ACADS)....... also for 3 mths i worked with career launcher .. so there were a couple of questions pertaing to my Learnings at Career Launcher..........

what i feel is the kind of material for preparatory reading may include times of India editorial , the week or any other weekly magazine like India today or Hindu.......
a economic magazine or news paper would also be good (although not really needed for the essay, it might help u in the GD.. e.g my topic was "human resources or financial resources ,which is more important ?" the gyaan that i had collected from the busines mags was of immense help to give examples in the GD... that went a long way in placing me over the others in my GD.........

Also it is important that u dont be too aggressive in the GDs that u take part in as it was seen in 2 /3 cases (@2005 GD process) that groups in which one or two people were aggressive the whole group was disqualified...

+ it would be good if you could develop your own views on a lot of social problems that plague our Country..... u could do this by reading through the writeups that come in various newspapers and magazines aregarding socially relevant issues... after reading and understanding it would be of help if you could form an independent opinion about the problem after doing proper research.........This would show u as an independent thinker which the evaluators would appreciate over other thinkers who are repeating ideas of others rather than having views of their own......

[babubhaskaran]

Hi all..

these were My gd/pi postings in TISS (2005-200& thread in PG.
Engnieers yeah abt 35-40% r there in our batch so in seniors batch...
Acads...yeah they do count

hi all..


Well...Atlast a little breather...Am thru to the next round....for PI to be held tommorow....60 have been shortlisted from todays batach..yesterdays batch 38 were shortlisted from close to 300 odd ppl who came today...


The topics for Essay were:

1. BPO : New oputunities for women ?

2. Elections reflect the political will of people
3. An ideal model for industrial development in India

It was easy to narrowdown to the first 2 choices..and since i felt i had more conetent for the second topic went with it....Took 10 mins to think on the o pic and structure it...And i did think in the begining itself that it wud be gud....then started from the 11 min and wrote for 1 page (2 sides) and a couple of lines extending to the next 3rd side.....It was a gud structure, quality was gud though quantity was just apt....."Started with Lincons definitin of Democracy and wat role Elections play....went on with the US electiosn...how a person instigated the war won, not bcos he was people choice but was out of fear of terror....then a para on Zimbabwe electiosn (Robert Mugabes Zanu PF party won over MDC) and though conducted well free and fair with international observers..Still it was rejected by the international Big brothers..Pointing the prejudice idea in them....Then came back home abt Indian electoral process...concluded by giving 3 suggestions to achieve that Elections reflect the political will of people...1. More ppl participation 2. Provide security for ppl joining

3. As TS Krishnamurthy says give a choice of none of the above in the choice ....Overall i was satisfied though i thught some quantity cud be increased....(But that hardly counts)



Then had my GD at 2 in the afternoon....the two topics were 1. Knowledge workers- will they ever unionise (how crazy) or 2. Hindutva makes a mockery of Hindus (useless topic) . The group decided with the second...though i dint prefer.....In contrast to DonB's GD...this was one of the owrst ever GD i have...Poor content...Not to blame...the topic itself is narrow...again and again same BJP, Narendra MOdi, Education, Fundamentalsim....We were 10 and 2 dint

speak....8 spoke but many were repeating samething and no body contradicted the other and went on.....But with very low value add...I gave the structure to go abt...defining hindutva and how to go abt...Brought a couple of checks wen the group was diagressing ....Finally i personally was no happy with the GD outcome......But i had a feel that i cud be the top

1-2 in the group....So if they gibe clearence in GD and read my Essay i cud stand out...

Anxious and stayed back till 6 30 wen the result came....Was one among the 60 shortlisted......And 5 from my group (I frankly dint xpect..so many from my group)....

Now for the other topics that came up for other GDs were MBA is a must for Manager(sucha sitter) Women are nmot safe in urban india Small is beautiful is no longer applicable in Business world..I dont remember the rest...

Have my PI tommorow at 2 PM and am leaving back to chennai tommorow as well...so will post my PI xpereinces after 2 days once back home.....But heard from the PI xpereicnes that took place today...Was generic and at times stress.......Donno ..Just give a

try......22 seats.....Cnt xpect much....Jut give ur best shot and get on...

Note :PMIR topics come for MSW courses as well (Esay /GD)...So keep following....

Just a little advice: Gals...please get propery dressed...we have applied for a professional course......The gals who came were awesome to look at..i did enjoy bird watchig but doubt if the panelist will do...also guys..be formal...nobody xpects u Coat or tie..but aleast no jeans and t shirt.....

[babubhaskaran]

PI Xpereinces...


Thats not Gangadhar..Thats Prof. Gangopadhyay..our beloved HOD.....


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Hi all..



These were the Interview xpereinces that I had...was called at 3 30......3 member panel including 1 female ...HOD was the centre man (gangopadhyay).....



First questions.....



HOD :Well ramanathan why HR...

Me: Started saying , HR deals with te human as pect of business development...so and am fascinat in knowing ppl, thier emotions blah blah....so I want to do.....



Now he started to play with me....



HOD: he went on....wel ramanathan...U have done ur Engg...now wrokng in S/w......Now suddeny why HR....I said...



Me: Sir, wen i took up engg. it was not a concious independent descision...was well driven by people and friends around me......But now the decision that am takng is a very concious one....



HOD: well.....again asked...HOW HR after Engg....



Me: Sir, Engg as such is a very open ended course...the structure is different....1st year one is xposed to all basic subjects and then one moves to his specialisation in a very progessive state with mico understanding f the subjects and in the final sem also we had a paper called PM OB ...and i was fascinated wen i dealt with the paper and was interested in doing PG in HR...(Hoped that he waud ask something from OB theoris as I had prepare a bit....and will not ask my Engg acads...Dint ask OB concepts...which was bad...but all the more happy that he dint ask acads....



HOD: But that u went to S/w engg...thats nothing to with HR nor with ur Engg.....why...?



Me; Sir..I had made up my mind that i wanted to do my PG in HR...but i wanted to ensure that this desciion is not taken in a haste so......I thugh let me get into an org and get a feel of it.......and S/W is the place u get the most jobs and this was the first job that i got and so i took it up...



Now heres were he started testing me



HOD: Well.....wats the role of HR....its useless...no role to play....u have done ur Engg...do some S/w develpoment program and i think u will do a gr8 carrees for urslef.....This hardly has any scope these days...



ME; sir....that cud be true..in fact even before i finish my PMIR...i wud be getting more paid that the HR....but i think money isnt everything...I wud have job satisfaction in being a HR professional....



HOD:...Well wat satisfaction will u get...wats the use of HR....Nothing can be done with that...tell me in ur comapnay wat role it playes..very minor na...



ME: sir...HR is essentially a support function whihc tries to bridge the Organisational needs and the employee needs...so it plays a crucial part...



HOD: well..u urslef said....HR is only a support fucntion and does not have a major role to play.....so why u wanna do such a course...



Me: (Now i had to defend my self).....well...Sir...The very psyche is changing...before....Recritmnet and job of HR was taken care by the other operations manager as such...but than they realised that we needded professional who are fully dedicated to it....and as the trend goes , I think HR will contribute for the Business development as well...Say wen org is in state A...HR plans for the Org to be state C...(i was continuing...he stopped me)



HOD: Have u heard of IBM....wats the latest news from there...



Me: ( I knew that it had acquired Daaksh some tinme back.... but was not sure if he was xpecting that or the name Daksh BPO name was sure)...So i said...sir I donno...



HOD: Wat u donno...u dont follow the happenings in the business world...



Me: Sir, I do follow but am not aware of wat ur asking...

[babubhaskaran]

HOD: Ok.....wat does IBM stand for:


Me: International business machine


HOD: Wat did the start doing...


Me: (wat the hell man...wat do i know of theri history).... well i think its hard ware manufatcuring sir...


HOD: Wat...u donno.....Hardware came so recently......He started off.. IBM started off as coffeee vending machins and then into Mainframes, OS,H/w,,,bla blah blah...


Me: (kept nodding the head...i really dint know all this)

HOD:...so u see...they started off with cofee and now with S/w...so wat can HR plan....(He had caught with the fact i had told earlier the HR ppl plan for future)...


Me: Sir, i think change is inevuitale...one needs to go along with change........and its herein where HR comes in and plays a vital role(again defending)....Train emp. up and go on...


HOD; wat traing u can do...nothing its only wen ur free it can be done...


Me: true and thats very important and that why i wann learn to go abt it....


....then something more on this he asked...i have forgotten....


HOD: Did u take up CAT


Me: No ( had i said...IIM A AND B dont offer HR)....so i voluntarily said i took XAT ... (just to show my honest and also that am interested in pursuing a career in HR)


HOD: how much did u get


Me: abt 78 sir...not gud enough fro XLRI ( i was hoping that he wud ask....why tiss...why xlri...diff.....which is better and i had prepared for a gud answer.....Again he dint ask wat i was xpecting to asked)...


...Now HOD........says to the person to his left...a guy with a pony tail....." AM OVER SIR...U have any questions u can ask)


PT: (all these times he was just observing me...i thought he was a psychologit)


PT: Well....u see ...now everything is being outsourced...ur working for a client ablroad....every job is eing sent here.....all ppl r doing...so wats the role of HR here....wats the use.....(Again the same ond thing....blah blah blah)


Me: ( i was just annoyed...though i dint show... man go fwd...ask something else naa...said to myelf.....)...I said...sir yeah thee is a lot of attriin....even in my organisation there is a high attrition rate......and peopl retentionis imp also to plan for a proper work life balance...HR does play a vital role....


PT: Ok....tell me some trade unions in India and which party they r affleiated to..


Me: AITUC..All india trade union congress afflicated to congress.... and CITUC....am not sure of the full form sir...but i think it afflated to Communist party..


PT: Which communist party...


Me: marxsit...


PT: R u sure..


Me: Yes sir ( i still donno the correct answer)


PT: OK...ell me some trade leaders


Me: Sir i thinka ll left leaders shud be....like say praskash karat, sitaram yechury from CPM...also AB Bardhan from CPI...(shit man...i missed out George fernandes...how cud i miss him...)


PT: Iam also done sir (toHOD)..


HOD: Madam u have any questions...


.....Now there was a lady to the right of HOD.....


Mad: Well....u know liberalaisation.....its advent in idai...wat r it positives and negatives in india..


Me: yes madam..in late 1985....Rajiv gandhi came with this idea of liberlaising the comonly which is very good...and i perosnnally feell that the positives outweigh the negatives...like say the automobile industry...before we had only Maruti...now we have Hyundai, ford, Toyota...so thus the end consumer is with a lot of choice and he can choose accrodig to the money he can get ...( i cud have used the word monopoly is gone...but i missed)....Then said...looking at the negatives.....i think the smaller companies have gone aways..say take the exaple of Soft drinks industry we had Gold spot and Kalimark....now they r no more....so thats a problem and wat the left is doin in this matter is corect...


Mad: Ok.....u see there r this SSI and LSI......wats ur feel on that..shud SSI remain...r they necesssary..wat r the problems they r facing .


Me: yes madam...i think SSI play a major ...the give a lot of employment oppurtunites whch is very much essential....the major problem is that most of the Large companies r run by big industrialist.who have their political mileage and get their work easlity done.....But thats not the case with SSI....( i shud have said infrastructure, support and raw materials....but missed out)....so they need to be supported as they give opputnity for backward comunity and the people with less skill as well...


Mad looks at HOD....


Hod: well u may go now..


Me: Thankyou..Pleasure meeting u.....


Atlast a smile in the face of the lady


(atleast)..HOD...no reaction.....just looking at my application form......

Overall...frankly speaking...pretty decent interview...no much stress...but for the part wen HOD was bullying and tring to change m,y mind...wen i stuck to my reasons.....Donno...how the panel interpret my answers (well at the end thats wat it matters).....


Also....am one among the 500 odd ppl who wud be shortlisted for interview for 27 seats....well...thats quite a real tough compatetion and the institue will ideally like o have a diverse background and only the top notch can get in....Have given my shot...donno if it will carry till the boundary....


Leaving tonight and back home on friday morning....


Cheers


Ramanathan

[babubhaskaran]

U need to write for about a page in your own handwriting. Actually there is no filtering of the application formm unless u have not properly filled up....But nevertheless they do play a very major part during PI...so dont fill the form in hurry, write ur sketch before once and read it for urself and see if u r truthful or at least show urself that ur truthful and u can justify all that u have written...So do write it patiently and not make it JAZZY but truthful and highligh your strengths...Xtracurrcular and academic achievements.................Ur learnings in life and anything....show itt to ur dad/mom/sis/bro/friend and ask them for a opinion before u write the fair copy....But yeah they do play a gud role during PI but hardly before that.

Copy of my Bio-Sketch as submitted to TISS is available at babubhaskaran.blogspot.com

[id_rulz]

hey there,
gr8 going..........amazing effort from ur side .....i think the thread will pick up momentum soon.........u keep giving ur inputs

waiting to learn from u,
and being ur junior at tiss
a tiss aspirant

[brisksam]

thanks babu !!!

thank u a lottttttttttttttttttttttt for your guide.