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Re: Welingkar 2009 - 2011 aspirants - 28-02-2009, 10:36 PM

Hi everyone,

I am a second year student at Welingkar. I would like to give you a balanced but honest view on the institute after going through this thread.

There are several parameters that we use to judge an mba institute like:

1. Faculty
2. Placements
3. Research
4. Infrastructure
5. Brand Equity
6. Management Quota

1. Faculty: As far as the faculty are concerned, I would say that the faculty is ok. We do have a mix of teachers as well as industry people. I personally feel that the faculty could be better, but it is decent. In certain fields like finance, we have some very good professors, who are very practical in their approach. Every institute has its share of good and bad teachers. I would rate the faculty as 6.5/10

2. Placements: The placements at Welingkar are truly terrible. I am not talking about the placements this year which are on the whole terrible across institutes, but I witnessed placement week for the 2007 -08 batch as well and was not impressed. The figures quoted on the website are misleading.(most colleges do that... ) Whilst there are a handful of good profiles and packages on campus, the average of 7 lakhs is definitely inflated. In 2007, when the economy was doing well, the average package was actually somewhere around 5 lakhs (if you remove the international offers which is what spikes up the numbers). The people who were placed on day 0 and day 1 received offers between 6-8 lakhs, with 1-2 offers of 10 lakhs. The 17 lakh package which is quoted as the highest domestic package was not on campus. The student used his own contacts, the company did not even come on campus to recruit. From day 2 onwards, the packages fell drastically to 3-4 lakhs. If you are a lateral, I would definitely not recommend Welingkars because you are unlikely to get a lateral profile or package. For freshers, its a good option.

Also, placements are the best in Marketing. Marketing students are usually offered sales profiles. (which i believe is the norm in most colleges). Finance placements are always bad and the usual profiles for finance students are sales and relationship management. HR & Ops placements for the '08 batch were good but this year are non-existent. I would rate the placements as 1.5/10

3. Research: There is absolutely no focus on research or case studies. Infact, Welingkar is not at all an academically oriented institute. In our college extra curriculars are valued more. Unfortunately, the extra curriculars are not at all relevant. They are activities like dahi handi and cricket matches. I would rate the research orientation as 2.5/10

4. Infrastructure: The infrastructure at Welingkar is amazing. We have plush interiors, wi-fi networks, airconditioning etc etc. This is one area, noone can complain about. I would rate the infrastructure as 10/10

5. Brand Equity: Welingkar is not a well known brand outside of Mumbai or Bangalore. Even within Mumbai, several top companies refuse to recruit at Welingkar. We have a certain reputation in the industry. Industry people find that students are not up to the mark in terms of basic concepts. This is usually for two reasons. One - We have a trimester system (in the PG course) and so all our knowledge is superficial & Two - Most of our students are lazy and uninterested, usually spoilt rich kids. Unfortunately, Welingkar is excellent in its branding abilities and thus prospective students are made to feel that the Welingkar tag is worth something. I would rate the brand equity of Welingkar as 5/10

6. Management Quota: Well.... whatever has been said about management quota is true. Welingkar has barely any merit seats. Most of the seats are paid seats. In the graduating batch, there are 180 students in the core PGDM batch. We can safely say that approx 80% of these students are on management quota. Infact, students at Welingkar freely admit that they have paid for their seats, they seem to be proud of it. The amount depends on who you know or don't know, your profile and how early or soon you approach the institute. The amount varies from 15 lakhs - 30 lakhs (it's insane - i know!!!!)

Well, thats everything that I could think of. I've tried to be as neutral as possible so that potential applicants have a good idea of what's in store. I would like to add, that I have had a good time in Welingkars for two years. I made good friends and enjoyed attending college. However, if you ask me about value-add, well i dont really think there was much of that.

All the best to everyone for their MBA admissions!

Well if 80% of the seats are management quota and u feel they r "spoilt rich kids", then u shud b happy u are actually competing with only 20% of the batch. So try to utilise this and get placed on day 0 itself and earn a 7+ package. But i am sure with attitude like this, u wont go anywhere. I m not bothered about the facts which some anonymous person with a horrible username has posted.
To other puys: Look at the timing of the post guys, just after all the interviews are done and results are awaited. I am sure we have a typical politician in the making. Let aside the genuineness of the facts he stated, think with a cool mind and use your judgement. Its finally U which matters more than the institute.

[nikozi_999]

Originally Posted by Alee

just guessing, but did they allot the gdpi dates according to our profile?
from what ive read in the forum so far--

the ppl on the 3rd were those with really high (98+) scores, or loads of workex...and had the easier GD topics too

the 2nd were those with scores i the mid 90s/ freshers with high scores

on the 1st they called those with scores in the late 80s-early 90s

--just wild guessing purely based on the experiences posted here...and ppl i met at the venue too...

i could be totally wrong...but jus wondering..

m sorry but dats not d case i hav 97 in XAT n i had on 1st may...da other guys in my group also had in da range of 95-97....so m definite dats not da case

[ayonde]

Totally agreeing with nilkozi,

Guy lets not be an avg. hindi news channel and try to read into eveything thats happening.

everyone is having a feeling that there is some high mystical conspiracy taking place viz welingkar admissions.

same happened with cutoffs , management seat, reading too much in between lines.

chill ppl []

[manojtheng]

hi guys after going through several posts i found
few aspirants are negative about welingkar due to Management Quota
but what i think as WE SCHOOL says
vision without action is like day dream
action without vision is time pass
vision with action can defiantly bring change.

So dont be negative wait for 18th to come .

we had vision for welingkar so we did action by filling form ,attending GDPI
now let the action and vision cm together for change on 18th may . everybody wil cm to know facts abt WELINGKAR . so hold ur thoughts ....................... and enjoy till then..........
(my blood group is B+)

[anu_shah85]

Heyy even i was asked this same question,
but they want to see ur confidence and how u react to people who de-moralise u.....hope u werre confident in whatever u replied...

be positive dost!!!

Originally Posted by runaway_guy

Hmm..I was asked what if I didn't get into an MBA college this year in my PI..
Now i guess my obituaries have been signed!

@Manoj....my blood Group O-ve but still quite positive...lolll

[anu_shah85]

Hey par cet ka i think it holds quite true....
all my 85-90 frnds on 1st May....
and all 96-99 ones with work ex on 3rd May....n ya we all were with similar profiles too...spoke to few of the people who were in my GD grp...
anywaz how does tat matter....joh bhi seats bachi kuchi hai woh lagta hai lucky draw hoke aayegi....
just kidding...hope for the best!!!

Originally Posted by nikozi_999

m sorry but dats not d case i hav 97 in XAT n i had on 1st may...da other guys in my group also had in da range of 95-97....so m definite dats not da case

[naiquevin]

Originally Posted by amlan.ib

tried hard not to react, but cant....

even I tried hard not to react to this post of yours but couldn't .. I have only few points to make.. I hope you will take it in the right spirit.

Originally Posted by amlan.ib

go to the original link where this post has been made and u wud find that this person has made just two posts till now....now if he is so responsible and hell bent on giving a so called UNBIASED view about welingkar then why the hell has he made just two posts till now....where has he been all the while when the aspirants were asking for help...

May be he felt discouraged and left after just 2 posts.. I dont know how much of what he has said is true but this post, seems to me, has been written by a person who has information.. something a student will definitely have. And more over it does sound like an UNBIASED VIEW rather than mud slinging.

Originally Posted by amlan.ib

u hav been here to our college and experienced the passion with which our director answered all the queries, while every single management college is faking 100% placements we are the only institute who are showing the real figures....

Now this is where I have a real problem. Do you mean to say that all this while I have been looking at fake figures and a GDPI session at Welingkar suddenly opened my eyes? What do u mean by 'every single management college except welingkar'? So arent you, yourself writting negetive things about other institutes indirectly..

Regarding whatever else you have said,
we all know these positives of WE.. this doesn't necessarily mean there are no negatives.

I am more willing to believe that guy because he sounded genuine to me...and it was no revelation to me when that post first appeared n the original thread.....which doesnt mean that I am not going to consider WE if I manage to get an admit.. unless of course if the proposed fee hike thing happens.

So,@amlan.ib - I did not like your choice of words..It was right on your part to counter post to ask for his credentials. No offence meant...

@ some guy who said 'we should be happily competing with 20% of the batch'.. I dont think so.. In a management program most of the learning comes through interaction with fellow students .. and I surely dont want to learn from 'spoilt kids from rich households'

@ all puys..I hope instead of ruling out that guy and his UNBIASED VIEW here, we can accept criticism in right spirit and try our best to find out how much of what he has said is correct.. and only then, take our own decision

cheers

[atulsharma1983]

Hello Puys,

This kind of discussions are regular feature of all threads related to Welingkar's for atleast past 3 years....

i dont know how much of it is true, but i know two of my friends who were v deserving passed out from Welingkars and are placed in good companies.

I got in eBiz batch of (2006-2008. which was awaiting AICTE approval which got cleared only in January...2007)
if posts that we see are true, they could have easily sold my seat to someone, but v fact tht i got in makes me think (though i did not take it )

All of us know if we get into the school we will grab it....(so relax till 18th)

Also wot i think of welingkar's is

1>Infrastructure: 8/10
2>Placement: (School ranks quite high in mum, if u have got the skills
and if the batch has good set of experienced folks with contacts in industry, dont think u will have hard time getting 7Lacs + in 2011)
3>Faculty: No idea
4>Fees : Too Much , if they make it 4.9 i am out.

My Blood group : A +ve

[ankit4mba]

Originally Posted by y.vamsikrish

Well if 80% of the seats are management quota and u feel they r "spoilt rich kids", then u shud b happy u are actually competing with only 20% of the batch. So try to utilise this and get placed on day 0 itself and earn a 7+ package. But i am sure with attitude like this, u wont go anywhere. I m not bothered about the facts which some anonymous person with a horrible username has posted.
To other puys: Look at the timing of the post guys, just after all the interviews are done and results are awaited. I am sure we have a typical politician in the making. Let aside the genuineness of the facts he stated, think with a cool mind and use your judgement. Its finally U which matters more than the institute.

So its good right.
In this recession period, we have 1 more career option: Politics []
By the time we graduate, Congress n BJP must b cumin for placements on day 0.

[atulsharma1983]

Originally Posted by anu_shah85

Hey par cet ka i think it holds quite true....
all my 85-90 frnds on 1st May....
and all 96-99 ones with work ex on 3rd May....n ya we all were with similar profiles too...spoke to few of the people who were in my GD grp...
anywaz how does tat matter....joh bhi seats bachi kuchi hai woh lagta hai lucky draw hoke aayegi....
just kidding...hope for the best!!!

I submitted my form on last day, may be tht was the reason for 3rd May
"FIFO"