Great Lakes Admission Queries

[The Truth]

Originally Posted by fast-n-steady

how can u think of institute catering to the timing of the results of each and every b-skool... u can have a problem with some inst, someone else can have a problem with some other inst... and do we cater to each one of u? and wherever u go u shud be ready to pay up atleast before 3 weeks.. we are asking to pay before 2 weeks ! The logic/iilogic of compulsion of laptop does not arise as it was mentionned beforehand in the brochure and the website that it is compulsory... and knowing this ppl have applied, is there any point to make a noise?

@fns -> Well. you did WAIT for 'some of your potential candidates' and acceded to the change of appln deadline. y not for a 99.6 %iler ? you ensured to start courses in april, knowing that a lot of b-schools [including the IIMs and XLRI] start their classes only after may. Y put undue pressure on the poor candidate ?? What really bewilders me is your audacity to take on the IIMs. You dont need to be a mgmt guru to tell which he would rate higher.

We are not here to study in glim for free [even then i dont think its worth the risk]. But we're emphasising that you plan your dates [A b-school sans planning doesnt bode well for that reputation of the institution], to make it more comfortable for the candidate and not force him to walk on a tight rope. A b-school sans planning doesnt bode well for that reputation of the institution. For heaven's sake, pity the poor candidate.

As for the laptop thing, just because it was given in the brochure doesnt make it an 'untouchable' issue. everyone have their right to voice their concern. Forcing someone to buy an item they already have is not legal/ethical. Before committing to buy in bulk, you ought to think abt the possible hassles, the candidates might face if he/she already had a laptop in his/her poccession. You could have given them option of retaining their laptops. but then again... i have my own theory for your stubbornness on this issue [just read below]

@horrible... dude.. you got to think it way too. glim mite be getting a small profit/discount from the laptop vendor for the sale of 160+ laptops every year. even if it amounts 10-15% (which is quite a low rate) the actual figure (60k) would touch 7k*160 = 11-12 lacs. You just have to reason this out yourself. glim would neverthless be selling those laptops to you at a premium only.

@manikra ... I'll just tell it once and once only. Whatever I have posted in this topic for the past 2-3 days. Its the truth. i got all those information from your adcom only. so please dont hastily condemn them as baseless.
I'm not talking of 1% more or 1% less. I'm talking in the order of 40-50% less. my point is... in your institution, reco letter carry nearly 95-99% weightage.

As for my 'decision making process' is concerned. Had it not been for your alumini, i wouldnt have even known about glim. They (just like you) lobbied for your institution. I dont c it as a problem at all. And me getting convinced abt the 'supposed' reputation of glim is not a prblem too. And me buying your appln and attending your gd/pi is not a problem either. the problem is that you have taken in a lot of candidates based ONLY on recommendation letters, thereby leaving some deserving ones outside (mar 10th interview). Again, this is according to the stats provided by your adcom. After learning about these facts, even your alumini have just stopped of saying 'It was not like this before' - and who is to blame for this ? me ? or the alumini ? or uncle bala ? ..... it all boils down to you. the current batch. My only job is to disseminate The Truth, so that it could create an awareness in the supposed future batch, before they take a decision that could change their lives forever.

As for the name 'glim'. i prefer to call it glim. If you wish to 'market' your institution as great lakes or glakes or gl or gs, do so with others. Never force others to say things how you want them to be said. (- Indian Constitution : Freedom of Expression )

[fast-n-steady]

Originally Posted by memukul

Hi MKinra/FnS,
You two are doing a fabulous job...

Two more questions for u-
1. I assume that the second installment of payment (Rs 5,20,000) is also to be made by a bank draft in favor of the same name as is reqd in the draft for the first installment. Plz correct me if I am wrong.
2. The session starts frm 20th April. In ur opinion, by what date a person should reach Great Lakes so that he/she can arrange for the accomodation in time? Moreover, how much support does the college provide in arranging for an accomodation?

thnx!
memukul

1. correct.. but the draft shud reach us by the deadline
2. come a 1 or 2 days before hand... thats wt we did....

~FnS

[fast-n-steady]

Originally Posted by The Truth

@fns -> Well. you did WAIT for 'some of your potential candidates' and acceded to the change of appln deadline. y not for a 99.6 %iler ? you ensured to start courses in april, knowing that a lot of b-schools [including the IIMs and XLRI] start their classes only after may. Y put undue pressure on the poor candidate ?? What really bewilders me is your audacity to take on the IIMs. You dont need to be a mgmt guru to tell which he would rate higher.

We are not here to study in glim for free [even then i dont think its worth the risk]. But we're emphasising that you plan your dates [A b-school sans planning doesnt bode well for that reputation of the institution], to make it more comfortable for the candidate and not force him to walk on a tight rope. A b-school sans planning doesnt bode well for that reputation of the institution. For heaven's sake, pity the poor candidate.

As for the laptop thing, just because it was given in the brochure doesnt make it an 'untouchable' issue. everyone have their right to voice their concern. Forcing someone to buy an item they already have is not legal/ethical. Before committing to buy in bulk, you ought to think abt the possible hassles, the candidates might face if he/she already had a laptop in his/her poccession. You could have given them option of retaining their laptops. but then again... i have my own theory for your stubbornness on this issue [just read below]

@horrible... dude.. you got to think it way too. glim mite be getting a small profit/discount from the laptop vendor for the sale of 160+ laptops every year. even if it amounts 10-15% (which is quite a low rate) the actual figure (60k) would touch 7k*160 = 11-12 lacs. You just have to reason this out yourself. glim would neverthless be selling those laptops to you at a premium only.

@manikra ... I'll just tell it once and once only. Whatever I have posted in this topic for the past 2-3 days. Its the truth. i got all those information from your adcom only. so please dont hastily condemn them as baseless.
I'm not talking of 1% more or 1% less. I'm talking in the order of 40-50% less. my point is... in your institution, reco letter carry nearly 95-99% weightage.

As for my 'decision making process' is concerned. Had it not been for your alumini, i wouldnt have even known about glim. They (just like you) lobbied for your institution. I dont c it as a problem at all. And me getting convinced abt the 'supposed' reputation of glim is not a prblem too. And me buying your appln and attending your gd/pi is not a problem either. the problem is that you have taken in a lot of candidates based ONLY on recommendation letters, thereby leaving some deserving ones outside (mar 10th interview). Again, this is according to the stats provided by your adcom. After learning about these facts, even your alumini have just stopped of saying 'It was not like this before' - and who is to blame for this ? me ? or the alumini ? or uncle bala ? ..... it all boils down to you. the current batch. My only job is to disseminate The Truth, so that it could create an awareness in the supposed future batch, before they take a decision that could change their lives forever.

As for the name 'glim'. i prefer to call it glim. If you wish to 'market' your institution as great lakes or glakes or gl or gs, do so with others. Never force others to say things how you want them to be said. (- Indian Constitution : Freedom of Expression )

please stop demean ppl who have got admission accusing that they have got thru' backdoor and other stuffs.. u are doing it for a long time now.
Do not preach us what is illegal. I think your frustration is apparent in each and every post of urs than adding any value.
Dint u know when the course will start - now, u will say we have to postpone the admission dates also?? am amazed by the comments u are making... readily proves the point of the quality of the utter illogical posts u are posting.

[PRERIT]

Hey guyz……sorry to interrupt…… was just going thru this thread…u guyz have really made the discussion v hot.
Firstly lemme introduce my self as 1 of the candidates who has been offered admission at glakes for this year.
Let me give my insight abt certain questions raised here first…
@The truth and horrible…….(….or The horrible truth…lol……..jokes apart)
What is it to us abt the dates extension…I mean yeah the dates were extended b4..and as far as I know it was bcoz thy had later decided to keep the last date of applications after the dates of thr placements so tht ppl applying to the insti cud know well in advance abt the placement of the current batch(…this being a new insti with gr8 potentials but little past records ..i thk the management took a rite decision here. )…….correct me if um wrong seniors.

Another issue here is extending the dates further for payments
Dude…..r u joking …. keep ur self in the shoes of the institutes management and um sure u wud get the answer…just thk the batch is gonna start in just abt a month now…and if thy do not finalise thr list of final 162 students by thn…..thn thr will b a chaos for sure …and thy cannot extend the dates for just 1 candidate(99.** %ile) (no hard feelings plz) and keeping the rest with the same deadline…..this will be a biased decision.
Abt the recommendations:
Um sorry dude ….but here also I don’t thk the way u do….coz…according to them the recommendations is 1 of the imp criterias for admission….but tht doesn’t mean tht u gotto to be a resourceful person having high contacts for admission…..coz most of us got recommendations frm the employers….i thk recommendation is imp coz…this gives the insti idea abt wht kind of person u are in the eyes of the ppl who know u.
Abt the laptop
Hmm….here I thk the insti shud hav allowed us to keep our existing laptops coz most of us already have it…but whn I spoke abt it to the admissions…I was told tht thy have decided so coz last year due to the absence of this compulsion…thy had faced a lot of chaos like….ppl who had opted to get thr own laptops suddenly said thy wnt it frm the insti…and some who were going to get it frm the insti suddenly changed thr minds……
Dunno wht this is but here the insti could also have considered our situation in this regard.

Guyz plz don’t take it personally but I thk we shudnt bad mouth an insti for issues as subtle as dates…etc..etc
@FnS and Manik
U guyz r doing a real gud job...I hope tht the coming batch also carries the same kind of attitude and helpfulness as your batch

[The Truth]

@ prerit... ur post seems to have been biased towards your future school (now that you have gotten admission). You fail to see beyond the obvious and have started to defend your future insti's faults even before u joined it. probably u will make a good adcom member next year. But you have to see the other side of the picture too. Its not all rosy as you think it is. You really dont know what is happening inside. I'm sure you'll get a hint of it when u start involving yourself in glim's internal processes. But by then, it would have been too late.
no matter what excuse you give (students requested to change, cat results must be out, placement results must be out)... it all paints only one picture - there is not planning. they dont stick to decisions. and they really dont stick to their reputation and prestige but readily go in, if they found a method 'profitable'.
i feel your views on reco's and laptops are just your personal ones and u dont have even the slightest idea of wats going on behind the scenes.

@fns... i havent demeaned anyone. If i take a stand and reveal my theories on your faulty processes, my views are labelled as 'illogical', 'frustrated', 'illegal'. But do u really think i do care about comments by a glim member ?? I'm sure my posts have been an eye opener for countless number of candidates. even if they do get in, they will remain cautious and wont do the same mistakes (grave) you have done this year. atleast in fear in of public opinion and The Truth. Thats all i care about.

[mkinra]

Originally Posted by The Truth

@fns -> Well. you did WAIT for 'some of your potential candidates' and acceded to the change of appln deadline. y not for a 99.6 %iler ? you ensured to start courses in april, knowing that a lot of b-schools [including the IIMs and XLRI] start their classes only after may. Y put undue pressure on the poor candidate ?? What really bewilders me is your audacity to take on the IIMs. You dont need to be a mgmt guru to tell which he would rate higher.

We are not here to study in glim for free [even then i dont think its worth the risk]. But we're emphasising that you plan your dates [A b-school sans planning doesnt bode well for that reputation of the institution], to make it more comfortable for the candidate and not force him to walk on a tight rope. A b-school sans planning doesnt bode well for that reputation of the institution. For heaven's sake, pity the poor candidate.

As for the laptop thing, just because it was given in the brochure doesnt make it an 'untouchable' issue. everyone have their right to voice their concern. Forcing someone to buy an item they already have is not legal/ethical. Before committing to buy in bulk, you ought to think abt the possible hassles, the candidates might face if he/she already had a laptop in his/her poccession. You could have given them option of retaining their laptops. but then again... i have my own theory for your stubbornness on this issue [just read below]

@horrible... dude.. you got to think it way too. glim mite be getting a small profit/discount from the laptop vendor for the sale of 160+ laptops every year. even if it amounts 10-15% (which is quite a low rate) the actual figure (60k) would touch 7k*160 = 11-12 lacs. You just have to reason this out yourself. glim would neverthless be selling those laptops to you at a premium only.

@manikra ... I'll just tell it once and once only. Whatever I have posted in this topic for the past 2-3 days. Its the truth. i got all those information from your adcom only. so please dont hastily condemn them as baseless.
I'm not talking of 1% more or 1% less. I'm talking in the order of 40-50% less. my point is... in your institution, reco letter carry nearly 95-99% weightage.

As for my 'decision making process' is concerned. Had it not been for your alumini, i wouldnt have even known about glim. They (just like you) lobbied for your institution. I dont c it as a problem at all. And me getting convinced abt the 'supposed' reputation of glim is not a prblem too. And me buying your appln and attending your gd/pi is not a problem either. the problem is that you have taken in a lot of candidates based ONLY on recommendation letters, thereby leaving some deserving ones outside (mar 10th interview). Again, this is according to the stats provided by your adcom. After learning about these facts, even your alumini have just stopped of saying 'It was not like this before' - and who is to blame for this ? me ? or the alumini ? or uncle bala ? ..... it all boils down to you. the current batch. My only job is to disseminate The Truth, so that it could create an awareness in the supposed future batch, before they take a decision that could change their lives forever.

As for the name 'glim'. i prefer to call it glim. If you wish to 'market' your institution as great lakes or glakes or gl or gs, do so with others. Never force others to say things how you want them to be said. (- Indian Constitution : Freedom of Expression )

Jus a word of caution...dude dont tell me or fns yur 99+ percentile .... coz people here do have similar percentiles...and percentiles dont matter much, coz anyone above 95 percentile do carry the apptitude to be a good manager.

PS: A word of advice, the people yu speaking to have had given CAT's and GMAT's and scored more than what yu have quoted as a boosting measure, even had calls/converted calls in schools which in perceptions are far better. (everyone has their right to consider, compare and rate schools nothing wrong in it)

[mkinra]

Originally Posted by The Truth

@fns -> Well. you did WAIT for 'some of your potential candidates' and acceded to the change of appln deadline. y not for a 99.6 %iler ? you ensured to start courses in april, knowing that a lot of b-schools [including the IIMs and XLRI] start their classes only after may. Y put undue pressure on the poor candidate ?? What really bewilders me is your audacity to take on the IIMs. You dont need to be a mgmt guru to tell which he would rate higher.

We are not here to study in glim for free [even then i dont think its worth the risk]. But we're emphasising that you plan your dates [A b-school sans planning doesnt bode well for that reputation of the institution], to make it more comfortable for the candidate and not force him to walk on a tight rope. A b-school sans planning doesnt bode well for that reputation of the institution. For heaven's sake, pity the poor candidate.

As for the laptop thing, just because it was given in the brochure doesnt make it an 'untouchable' issue. everyone have their right to voice their concern. Forcing someone to buy an item they already have is not legal/ethical. Before committing to buy in bulk, you ought to think abt the possible hassles, the candidates might face if he/she already had a laptop in his/her poccession. You could have given them option of retaining their laptops. but then again... i have my own theory for your stubbornness on this issue [just read below]

@horrible... dude.. you got to think it way too. glim mite be getting a small profit/discount from the laptop vendor for the sale of 160+ laptops every year. even if it amounts 10-15% (which is quite a low rate) the actual figure (60k) would touch 7k*160 = 11-12 lacs. You just have to reason this out yourself. glim would neverthless be selling those laptops to you at a premium only.

@manikra ... I'll just tell it once and once only. Whatever I have posted in this topic for the past 2-3 days. Its the truth. i got all those information from your adcom only. so please dont hastily condemn them as baseless.
I'm not talking of 1% more or 1% less. I'm talking in the order of 40-50% less. my point is... in your institution, reco letter carry nearly 95-99% weightage.

As for my 'decision making process' is concerned. Had it not been for your alumini, i wouldnt have even known about glim. They (just like you) lobbied for your institution. I dont c it as a problem at all. And me getting convinced abt the 'supposed' reputation of glim is not a prblem too. And me buying your appln and attending your gd/pi is not a problem either. the problem is that you have taken in a lot of candidates based ONLY on recommendation letters, thereby leaving some deserving ones outside (mar 10th interview). Again, this is according to the stats provided by your adcom. After learning about these facts, even your alumini have just stopped of saying 'It was not like this before' - and who is to blame for this ? me ? or the alumini ? or uncle bala ? ..... it all boils down to you. the current batch. My only job is to disseminate The Truth, so that it could create an awareness in the supposed future batch, before they take a decision that could change their lives forever.

As for the name 'glim'. i prefer to call it glim. If you wish to 'market' your institution as great lakes or glakes or gl or gs, do so with others. Never force others to say things how you want them to be said. (- Indian Constitution : Freedom of Expression )

I also belive that before filling in the forms yu knew the course would start in april, and thats been the case for past 3 yrs - nothing new dude. If yu believe we did it delibrately to put the poor candidate in trouble, its yur choice - we didnt force yu to fill the form.

Ne ways all the best with yur 99+ percentile.

[The Truth]

i just dont get it. How come all u fellows cry foul but never refute my facts at all...

if you are really that honest a person, then answer me this... without any fabrication. what is the lowest score you have admitted (cat/gmat)... just tell me this...

[mkinra]

Originally Posted by The Truth

i just dont get it. How come all u fellows cry foul but never refute my facts at all...

if you are really that honest a person, then answer me this... without any fabrication. what is the lowest score you have admitted (cat/gmat)... just tell me this...

Dude,

I fail to understand that as an applicant why do yu rate percentiles as the only basis for admission and not accept that people with work ex. and careers in different verticals bring in tremendous amount of practical knoweldge and for them CAT/GMAT scores are not just the only criteria to select or reject. Pls. understand Great LAkes is a school wherein people with as high as 20 yrs of work ex. study, people with as high as Director designation have been a part of - and for them using the same yardstick (percentiles) is not the right evaluation method - yu might consider this wrong, but thats yur perception.

Pls. understand few things before just arguing for the sake of argument.

and pls. if yu are so sure, abt the foul crys, unethical admission ways and soo many other bad things abt Great Lakes, pls. have such thoughts because people like yu do help Great Lakes in coming up with better ways and improving year on year. Thanks for yur shouts, foul crys (i can say so - what proof do yu ve that admissions have been done on basis on recos wieghing as high as 90-95% which yu claim), and other claims. It helps, coz next yr we will try to bring in more transparency and better ways to answer yur claims.

[The Truth]

Originally Posted by mkinra

Dude,

I fail to understand that as an applicant why do yu rate percentiles as the only basis for admission and not accept that people with work ex. and careers in different verticals bring in tremendous amount of practical knoweldge and for them CAT/GMAT scores are not just the only criteria to select or reject. Pls. understand Great LAkes is a school wherein people with as high as 20 yrs of work ex. study, people with as high as Director designation have been a part of - and for them using the same yardstick (percentiles) is not the right evaluation method - yu might consider this wrong, but thats yur perception.

Pls. understand few things before just arguing for the sake of argument.

and pls. if yu are so sure, abt the foul crys, unethical admission ways and soo many other bad things abt Great Lakes, pls. have such thoughts because people like yu do help Great Lakes in coming up with better ways and improving year on year. Thanks for yur shouts, foul crys (i can say so - what proof do yu ve that admissions have been done on basis on recos wieghing as high as 90-95% which yu claim), and other claims. It helps, coz next yr we will try to bring in more transparency and better ways to answer yur claims.

hullo... do u really understand english.. i just asked one detail only. and u cant even provide that ... WHY ??? what prevents you from doing that ??? are you afraid of the repurcussions. Its just a SIMPLE question. both fns and you are hell bent on just saying 'dont do that ... dont do this... its not rite'... cant u confront me with the facts ??

i never told you percentile or scores are the ONLY criteria ever in my postsq. but if u had taken an all time low score applicant (not the 90%iler u say.. its far far low.. sometimes unimaginable how some one could get that low a score) into your institution... i do have the right to question it.