Great Lakes Admission Queries

[fast-n-steady]

Originally Posted by Artihcus

Hi,
I've never heard of any b-school applicants question the institute reg the application process.... It is true people are unhappy about getting rejected; But in other b-schools they get to know why... Its a learning process for all of us & everyone strives to learn from mistakes...

If I know what went wrong in my application process - low GMAT/CAT score or not-so-good essays or not-so-effective recos(in terms of the person who gave the reco & watever he/she wrote for me) or not-upto-the-mark GD & PI performance or low work-ex factor????

There are lot of positives from the application process as such... Getting to know about our strengths & weaknesses; Working on our weaknesses... Dedication & commitment in completing essays; preparing for GD-PI's... Because that failed to convert to an admit, we want to know why... Obviously the person who made it will not question as to why he was selected.. Coz that information is unnecessary for him. It is we, who got rejected, who'll have to apply again, need to know that...

May be I don't have enough qualifications this year. Fine, if that is the case, what do I lack (its relative)??? Now that I have one more year for the next admissions, I need to know how I can improve myself, so that I can apply next year & convert it to an admit... This is not out of frustration or anything... This is a continuous learning process for us!!!

i appreciate... we will see if we can give u feedbacks

[fast-n-steady]

Originally Posted by srikantjha

Hi Seniors,

I have got admission into GreatLakes for 2007 batch and i need some info and unbiased advice from you and will be very thanksful to you. I have 97.33 percentile in CAT and i am basically a Comp.Sc. engg and have work ex of 3+ years. My confusion is that i have got admission into Narsee Monjee also and my results for SPJain are awaited. In this scenario what will be ur advise for joining Great Lakes. Your advice will be highly appreciated and will help me a lot.Also how real are the placement factors mentioned in website, as most of the institutes exaggerate the details.
Hope u understand that Great Lakes being a new institute taking decision to join it over other established B-Schools is difficult and as you people also would have experienced the same thing, thats where your advice will help me.

Thanks,

Srikant.

see i cant tell u abt what u wl join b/c that wud be ur personal decission:
some of the negatives of glakes as i have seen:
1. Infrastructure: though logical infra is well in place(wifi, subscription wid libraries, etc etc), we cannot really boast of any physical infra if u compare with any other college... the class will be divvided into sections and classes will take place.
2. Alumni Support: u wl have just 3 yrs of alumni support, while NM or SP will have a lot more here... however some of the alumni have risen to high posts already b/c of their work ex.
3. Lack of branding: we do not brand ourselves too much, b/c we do not believe in too much show-off.... the reputation is largely carried by newspaper.

Positives:
1. Great faculty: Comparable to any b-skool of India or abroad... well not exaggerating, we have had faculties from kellog, Harvard, Chicagi GSB, Columbia, etc etc who are reputed consultants with worl class companies as well... and hence the exposure to the recent activiities(linking it with the evolution) of brands worlwide is done very well.
2. The placement statistics are exact numbers as we have got. Infact many gud companies have been shown the door....
3. Peer Learning: well, this is a great value add here, as u wl find ppl from diverse backgrounds and most of the learning will occur thru' peers. Coming from diverse backrounds, we bring diverse perspectives to the solution of the same case-study.
4. Exposure: Meeting Philip Kotler, Ck pralhad, Indra Nooyi is somthing which are dreams of many.. i never even dreamt of them... having thm at the campus fulfills ur satisfaction.

Take an informed decission... am sure NM and SP also have a lot of strengths... so judge ur options out before going to any inst. Just like to mention in our batch, many ppl sacrificed top Indian b-skools and other international b-skools to to join Great Lakes. Best of Luck !

~FnS

[The Truth]

Originally Posted by fast-n-steady

so atlast now you come to the point:
u dint make it because of changing deadlines... thats a good 'excuse' anyway... u r free to check any facts and figures that are posted here(pls dont ask me to post the proofs... i wont take the pain...)... nothing belittles the fame of the Inst. anyways.... its just a different way ur looking into things(after not getting selected in the first list)... well the alumnus and future alumnus were always there.... and u must have been in touch with them and still u applied to an inst. which u know wont fit ur 'ethics' [if i put it in dat way...]... if 'powerful' recos can get u in, well try it(nothing much i cn say).. may u get thru in other good inst of ur choice... otherwise u will curse all the b-skools which u dint get thru'... might b all the b-skools in the country and abroad... anyways wish best of luck to u...

I'm actually rofl rite now... never did i give that as an excuse anyway. I applied because your alumini lobbied for glim. They built up a feel-good image of your institution in my mind. But the current batch have successfuly undone the hard work of your prev batches. Now, i'm skeptical whether the alumini(+future) will really 'market' your institution again.

and again.. now that you have touched upon the 'powerful recos', i would like to add that it was the adcom who told me about it. They have shown that "so-n-so [they even gave the apprx % of students] have gotten thro this type of recos. If you need to get in, try to obtain a better reco than these people"... Thats the reason, i've been insisting on this issue. And i also know the scores of the candidates who have been admitted via these 'powerful recos'.... i dont need to go to adcom again to get that info.

its a shame... not for me.. but for the institution which has preferred only recommendations to pure merit. I do sincerely hope that the next batch does a far better job in adcom... for the sake of one man.. uncle Bala.

[horrible]

Guys, Great Lakes has sent a very beautiful mail, indicating most of its intentions.

The highlights are;

Pay 50k by 22nd March (before any other results could come)
One may like to go for it, securing his admission this year...

If that wasn't enough, Pay the rest of 5.2 Lakhs by 7th April (before the top results could come, if you have a call)

WHAT CRAP !!!
This includes the fees for entire year. A mandatory laptop worth 60k is also a part of it, which you will have to take even if you already have one.

Refundable amount: A pony 10k
The purpose of making it all so fast is crystal clear, as pointed by 'The Truth' on this or some other thread.

Dear Sir (or anyone concerned out here),
I forfeit my candidature for your course at GLIM. (Earlier I was kind of ambivalent, but now I am dead sure). Please include me out...

And for God's sake, plz let the waitlisted ones know what their merit is, as was promised by Fast-n-Steady...

With no regards whatsoever,
yours truly (Glakes app# 1049)

[mkinra]

Its nice to see so much of activity on the thread! though most of it go against the insti's reputation.

I would surely answer most of yur placements queries by today EOD, and abt admissions - FnS is doin a great work out here, and i fully support his remarks. for all those who find so many wrongs in Great Lakes (not GLIM), I would be more than happy to go ahead and individually speak with you (for that matter there are many amogst our batch who are ready to answer yur concerns). Still if people feel great in raising concerns and creating doubts in minds of other applicants, when they cant substantiate its a choice and they have full rights to exercise their choice.

[mkinra]

Hi Memukul,

The profiles offered by the cos. yu mentioned are given below-

Deloitte - they offered profiles for tax and account consultants and were keen on MBA's with CA's
Infosys/CTS/TCS/Wipro - Domain Consultants, Business Analysts/Senior Business Analysts/Business Development/Project Managers/Program Managers/Functional Consultants
Frost and Sullivan - Consultants (FMCG, ITC, Finance)
Mindtree - Consultants (Automobile, FMCG)
IBM - Consultants (Supply Chain, Human Capital, CRM, FSS, FSC)
Accenture - Business Development, Consultant (BFSI)

I hope this answers yur queries. Pls. feel free to ask ne more questions.

[horrible]

I know you won't welcome it. Gyaan dena kaun si badi baat hai.. sab dete hain. Still, I a little for 'The Truth' and 'Fast-n-Steady':

'The Truth' (actually, anyone of us)
Great Lakes institution is not only about its students. There are many components which make a great b-school, for instance, faculty, administration, student-base, placement figures, quality of offers et. al. The image of any such institute that gets built up in your mind is the aggregate of how you perceive each of these factors, and all of them as a whole. In one line - sirf FnS ke response se kya hota hai yaar !!

And one thing all of understand is that FnS is doing a really great job by helping the prospective students everywhere, be it here on pg, be it orkut or be it personal contact over his phone number. As far as I've noted, he has answered almost all our queries at lightning speed. He alone is doing it for the sake of his institute. Compare it with other b-school discussion threads, and you would find a set of people switching themselves for the purpose.

I think we should understand his stance.

'FnS'
Dear Sir, Hats off to you
But its your prerogative to understand that FnS, for us, is Great Lakes. Whatever you say, whatever you claim, are the words of Great Lakes for us (not only the admission committee and definitely not only FnS). It is just not right on your part to put us down (refer:'The Truth'). I think you know it very well... just wanted to say whatever my mind was going through.

(I mean, groans mat karna plz...)

Originally Posted by The Truth

I'm actually rofl rite now... never did i give that as an excuse anyway. I applied because your alumini lobbied for glim. They built up a feel-good image of your institution in my mind. But the current batch have successfuly undone the hard work of your prev batches. Now, i'm skeptical whether the alumini(+future) will really 'market' your institution again.

and again.. now that you have touched upon the 'powerful recos', i would like to add that it was the adcom who told me about it. They have shown that "so-n-so [they even gave the apprx % of students] have gotten thro this type of recos. If you need to get in, try to obtain a better reco than these people"... Thats the reason, i've been insisting on this issue. And i also know the scores of the candidates who have been admitted via these 'powerful recos'.... i dont need to go to adcom again to get that info.

its a shame... not for me.. but for the institution which has preferred only recommendations to pure merit. I do sincerely hope that the next batch does a far better job in adcom... for the sake of one man.. uncle Bala.

[mkinra]

Originally Posted by horrible

Guys, Great Lakes has sent a very beautiful mail, indicating most of its intentions.

The highlights are;

Pay 50k by 22nd March (before any other results could come)
One may like to go for it, securing his admission this year...

If that wasn't enough, Pay the rest of 5.2 Lakhs by 7th April (before the top results could come, if you have a call)

WHAT CRAP !!!
This includes the fees for entire year. A mandatory laptop worth 60k is also a part of it, which you will have to take even if you already have one.

Refundable amount: A pony 10k
The purpose of making it all so fast is crystal clear, as pointed by 'The Truth' on this or some other thread.

Dear Sir (or anyone concerned out here),
I forfeit my candidature for your course at GLIM. (Earlier I was kind of ambivalent, but now I am dead sure). Please include me out...

And for God's sake, plz let the waitlisted ones know what their merit is, as was promised by Fast-n-Steady...

With no regards whatsoever,
yours truly (Glakes app# 1049)

Hi Glakes App 1049,

I would jus like to remind yu that course at Great Lakes starts in april as against other colleges which start in June/July. Hence we cant afford to have the luxury or paying the fees in May/June - I hope no one amongst us expect to start studying in the college (1 yr course) without paying the entire amount. Hence the fees by default will have to be paid before results/deadlines of other colleges. I hope sense prevails in this! Again right to think and comment the way yu want is yurs.

Also, abt Laptop - Many colleges in India and abroad have similar rule and the reason for the same is that we can get laptops in a better deal when bought in bulk as the college wud do. this wud only help the students buying, because we were able to get Dual Core Laptops at much cheaper price, with 3 yrs free warranty, and free servicing through college -when dual core was not even launched in market.

We are open to remarks and ready to learn from our mistakes, but pls. quote our mistakes and substantiate it with reasons rather than just blaming Great Lakes.

Besides that yu are free to reject yur admission and exercise yur choice!

[mkinra]

Originally Posted by The Truth

I'm actually rofl rite now... never did i give that as an excuse anyway. I applied because your alumini lobbied for glim. They built up a feel-good image of your institution in my mind. But the current batch have successfuly undone the hard work of your prev batches. Now, i'm skeptical whether the alumini(+future) will really 'market' your institution again.

and again.. now that you have touched upon the 'powerful recos', i would like to add that it was the adcom who told me about it. They have shown that "so-n-so [they even gave the apprx % of students] have gotten thro this type of recos. If you need to get in, try to obtain a better reco than these people"... Thats the reason, i've been insisting on this issue. And i also know the scores of the candidates who have been admitted via these 'powerful recos'.... i dont need to go to adcom again to get that info.

its a shame... not for me.. but for the institution which has preferred only recommendations to pure merit. I do sincerely hope that the next batch does a far better job in adcom... for the sake of one man.. uncle Bala.

Dear The Truth,

Sir, I hope yu know that recommendation letters do acrry their own weigthage and thats why they are asked for, else wheres the need to even ask for it. An all round development of an individual is what Great Lakes has alwys claimed and hence if one Mr X with 1 percentile more doesnt get selected but Mr Y with 1 percentile less gets in, it s absolutely ok.

Also, as per yur statement that our alumni lobbied yu to apply for Great Lakes (not GLIM). I would jus let yu know one thing, we and alumni have always brought out the facts of the institute in front of people to take their own decisions, if today yu believe that yu didnt have the know how of taking a decision yurself and took one jus because some My ABCD lobbied for it, I wud like yu to build in decision making skills. In case it was yur own decision, pls. dont blame others -accept the truth.

This is not to belittle any one, but dude pls. raise issues which yu can substantiate and not shout unnecessarily when yu dont hav ne proofs. At no place in admission process is it mentioned that people above x percentile will get in and below that wud not. I hope yu understand that, thats the reason for interviews/gd/and reccos.

All the best in future dude!

[cooldivay]

Originally Posted by mkinra

Hi Glakes App 1049,

I would jus like to remind yu that course at Great Lakes starts in april as against other colleges which start in June/July. Hence we cant afford to have the luxury or paying the fees in May/June - I hope no one amongst us expect to start studying in the college (1 yr course) without paying the entire amount. Hence the fees by default will have to be paid before results/deadlines of other colleges. I hope sense prevails in this! Again right to think and comment the way yu want is yurs.

Also, abt Laptop - Many colleges in India and abroad have similar rule and the reason for the same is that we can get laptops in a better deal when bought in bulk as the college wud do. this wud only help the students buying, because we were able to get Dual Core Laptops at much cheaper price, with 3 yrs free warranty, and free servicing through college -when dual core was not even launched in market.

We are open to remarks and ready to learn from our mistakes, but pls. quote our mistakes and substantiate it with reasons rather than just blaming Great Lakes.

Besides that yu are free to reject yur admission and exercise yur choice!

i think here you are wrong y shud i buy another laptop wen i already have one.... just because colg here and abroad do so hence GLIM also doin i think this was not substantiate answer(just a shout)..............and regarding buying laptop at cheaper price wont help many of us who already have one and they all r themselves looking for its maintenance part.............
and some where u mentioned cheaper price ......... is it so ok then y aspirants are not getting at cheaper price ................ plz mention configration and exact price in advance if u r so sure abt cheaper price.............

I hope no one amongst us expect to start studying in the college (1 yr course) without paying the entire amount.

wat does that means ???????????? is this a wat u call substantiate answer.......... hmmmm