Great Lakes Admission Queries

[fast-n-steady]

Originally Posted by fast-n-steady

10 k is non refundable... but this will be handled case to case basis

Congratulations to all who are in...
Let me come to the point:
1. People who are confirmed need to reply to the confirmation email by 17th March, 2007 & pay up 50K rs by 22nd March(which in previous posts i mentionned as 28th March mistakingly).
2. The waitlisted candidates will be emailed as and when they will be confirmed(again contrary to my previous posts).
Please note that the waiting list is very short as we do not expect many rejections.
thats all from now.... wl let u know in case of any change in plan... People who have given their office ids might not r/c mails as the servers block these mails. Call up / send e-mail to adcom@glakes.org if u are listed and not received mail.
Pls join http://www.orkut.com/Community.aspx?cmm=29147041 . This is the Great Lakes orkut community of Co 2008. Your batch will be called 'Junior Crusaders' and hence the name of the community.

~FnS

[The Truth]

Hi everyone,

To begin with. congrats to all those who have gotten admit into GLIM-2007-08.

I have gotten a reject. Although dejected, I guess Life moves on. But I have my doubts abt the admission process.

1) What is the percentage of applicants who have come via 'powerful' recommendations ? Is it more than 50-60% ? Is it mandatory that we need 'powerful' recommendations to get an admit in glim ?? - I really mean this point.

2) I also heard that GLIM conducted an interview on the 10th of March. Is it true ???

3) Are acads [+ cat/gmat] given any value at all ??? For top ranked candidates [including myself and] like the one who got 98 percentile in CAT has gotten a reject. Although he had gotten thro' XLRI. Surely, he cudnt have been that bad. Even the work ex factor seems to have been discounted.

4) As far I know, glim was more popular in chennai [as per the shortlisted candidates] than any other state/city. But looking at the final composition, I felt chennai students have been sidelined [only 30-35 chennai students in the final list]. Any specific reason ? Does it mean that the chennai students have been sidelined to promote glim in the north and eastern parts of india ??

5) Is the admission process conducted entirely by the students ? aren't there any profs to guide them ??

6) Does glim offer any feedback on the rejected applications [like ISB and other US B-Schools ??

I hope tamoghna answers each of these queries.... and enlighten those who have been very 'unlucky' this time.

Sincere Request : Whoever heads the adcom next year. Make sure you don't postpone the admission deadlines [twice] for want of more applications. And finish the admission process by Jan-Feb.

[Umashan]

Originally Posted by The Truth

Hi everyone,

To begin with. congrats to all those who have gotten admit into GLIM-2007-08.

I have gotten a reject. Although dejected, I guess Life moves on. But I have my doubts abt the admission process.

1) What is the percentage of applicants who have come via 'powerful' recommendations ? Is it more than 50-60% ? Is it mandatory that we need 'powerful' recommendations to get an admit in glim ?? - I really mean this point.

2) I also heard that GLIM conducted an interview on the 10th of March. Is it true ???

3) Are acads [+ cat/gmat] given any value at all ??? For top ranked candidates [including myself and] like the one who got 98 percentile in CAT has gotten a reject. Although he had gotten thro' XLRI. Surely, he cudnt have been that bad. Even the work ex factor seems to have been discounted.

4) As far I know, glim was more popular in chennai [as per the shortlisted candidates] than any other state/city. But looking at the final composition, I felt chennai students have been sidelined [only 30-35 chennai students in the final list]. Any specific reason ? Does it mean that the chennai students have been sidelined to promote glim in the north and eastern parts of india ??

5) Is the admission process conducted entirely by the students ? aren't there any profs to guide them ??

6) Does glim offer any feedback on the rejected applications [like ISB and other US B-Schools ??

I hope tamoghna answers each of these queries.... and enlighten those who have been very 'unlucky' this time.

Sincere Request : Whoever heads the adcom next year. Make sure you don't postpone the admission deadlines [twice] for want of more applications. And finish the admission process by Jan-Feb.

Hi,

You couldn't the hit the nail on his head any better. Very relevant questions. I haven't seen so many " I am shocked" emails in any B-School admission forum.

I have also been rejected. I am a 97 percentiler in CAT with 8 yrs exp. My GD/PI at Chennai didn't go badly by any standards. In fact GD was very chaos free and smooth and PI was very interactive and cordial without any goof ups.

I have been looking at the admitted list again and again since I couldn't believe that my name isn't there.

My theory is that adcom has selected candidates who are likely to accept the offer since there is not much time for the program to start. I was asked in my interview if I had applied to to any other institure and I told them that I have got an interview call from XLRI. I was being honest. May be that turned against me. Again this is just a guess. The adcom committee may have felt I am not suited for this program as the institute is entitled to have it's own criteria for selection. Only that in Glakes' case, the selection criteria don't seem to match with that of the general perception and hence so many "I am shocked" emails and posts.

It will be great if Glakes follows ISB in giving feedback to rejected candidates.

All the best to admitted ones. You all deserve it.

Life moves on for rejected ones. Some other day some other institue may find you fit for the program. May be something better is in store.

Regards,
Umashankar

PS: I tend to agree with your fourth point on popularizing the institute across the nation to get into the league of IIMs/ISBs.

[horrible]

Originally Posted by Umashan

Hi,

You couldn't the hit the nail on his head any better. Very relevant questions. I haven't seen so many " I am shocked" emails in any B-School admission forum.

I have also been rejected. I am a 97 percentiler in CAT with 8 yrs exp. My GD/PI at Chennai didn't go badly by any standards. In fact GD was very chaos free and smooth and PI was very interactive and cordial without any goof ups.

I have been looking at the admitted list again and again since I couldn't believe that my name isn't there.

My theory is that adcom has selected candidates who are likely to accept the offer since there is not much time for the program to start. I was asked in my interview if I had applied to to any other institure and I told them that I have got an interview call from XLRI. I was being honest. May be that turned against me. Again this is just a guess. The adcom committee may have felt I am not suited for this program as the institute is entitled to have it's own criteria for selection. Only that in Glakes' case, the selection criteria don't seem to match with that of the general perception and hence so many "I am shocked" emails and posts.

It will be great if Glakes follows ISB in giving feedback to rejected candidates.

All the best to admitted ones. You all deserve it.

Life moves on for rejected ones. Some other day some other institue may find you fit for the program. May be something better is in store.

Regards,
Umashankar

PS: I tend to agree with your fourth point on popularizing the institute across the nation to get into the league of IIMs/ISBs.

Dear Umashankar,
Just to correct you, my CAT %ile was 99.96 and even my GD/PI was comfortably well. I have 3 IIM calls as well as XLRI call for BM. And panelists asked me my other calls, which I honestly told them. Despite all that, I've figured in their final list. So, your judgement regarding adcom may not be correct.

[The Truth]

well horrible...

i could easily say that you are an exception. They cant afford to reject a 99.96 percentiler.... if they did, u wud have perhaps sued glim for public defamation or called cnn-ibn to investigate this issue [quite possible indeed]... and they had to take the risk of you choosing iim over their institute [the reason y they are preparing a waiting list]

anyways... nice to hear that u got 3 calls... hope u convert atleast one...

[Nonconformist]

Originally Posted by The Truth

Hi everyone,

To begin with. congrats to all those who have gotten admit into GLIM-2007-08.

I have gotten a reject. Although dejected, I guess Life moves on. But I have my doubts abt the admission process.

1) What is the percentage of applicants who have come via 'powerful' recommendations ? Is it more than 50-60% ? Is it mandatory that we need 'powerful' recommendations to get an admit in glim ?? - I really mean this point.

2) I also heard that GLIM conducted an interview on the 10th of March. Is it true ???

3) Are acads [+ cat/gmat] given any value at all ??? For top ranked candidates [including myself and] like the one who got 98 percentile in CAT has gotten a reject. Although he had gotten thro' XLRI. Surely, he cudnt have been that bad. Even the work ex factor seems to have been discounted.

4) As far I know, glim was more popular in chennai [as per the shortlisted candidates] than any other state/city. But looking at the final composition, I felt chennai students have been sidelined [only 30-35 chennai students in the final list]. Any specific reason ? Does it mean that the chennai students have been sidelined to promote glim in the north and eastern parts of india ??

5) Is the admission process conducted entirely by the students ? aren't there any profs to guide them ??

6) Does glim offer any feedback on the rejected applications [like ISB and other US B-Schools ??

I hope tamoghna answers each of these queries.... and enlighten those who have been very 'unlucky' this time.

Sincere Request : Whoever heads the adcom next year. Make sure you don't postpone the admission deadlines [twice] for want of more applications. And finish the admission process by Jan-Feb.

Wow. This is as crisp as it gets. Thanks dude for such a post. The "Sincere Request" is earnest. I am sure many people, like me, would had rushed their essays to meet the deadline to find it later that it has been extended. It certainly puts the early applicants in a disadvantageous position unlike other global schools, where early applicants stands a better chance. I dont know what was the exact reason behind this move, but it certainly is deplorable.

The suggestion on giving feedback would surely bolster the image of GLIM and introduce more transparency in the admission process. It would be great to have it from this season, if possible.

My profile: B.E (CS), PG (IIT Kgp), 3 yrs IT exp, 620 GMAT, decent acads and extracurris, good GD/PI performance.
Result: Reject.

[Umashan]

Originally Posted by horrible

Dear Umashankar,
Just to correct you, my CAT %ile was 99.96 and even my GD/PI was comfortably well. I have 3 IIM calls as well as XLRI call for BM. And panelists asked me my other calls, which I honestly told them. Despite all that, I've figured in their final list. So, your judgement regarding adcom may not be correct.

Awesome profile dude...so, my theory remains a theory and adds more suspense to the selection criteria used.

Regards,
Umashankar

[fast-n-steady]

This should answer the series of above posts and if it does not answer any, then those questions will remain unanswered....

Hi nonconformist,

Would like to take the queries up constructively, clear some of ur doubts and correct some of ur data.
As of now, we do not provide any feedback to the students. Good suggestion: I wud like to take it up with the mgmt... dunno if anything can be done this yr... The admissions process has been driven entirely by students under the leadership of the exec. director & acads director. Now, as far as the selection procedure goes, if u check the list itself, many students have multiple offers(both national & international). So, offers getting converted was never any selection criteria... rather it increases the chances of getting thru by posting a better brand image of urs.. the selection was done all india wise and the merit list published all over india without any regional bias. Would like to correct ur facts that chennai dint get the highest calls anyways... publicizing the institutes thru' admissions doznt happen boss... it happens thru' reputation... admission is just a a consequence of that... all those what u r saying can be soiled if u see the profiles of the candidates selected and and the average score of the selected ppl...
We gave enough importance to the scores... many ppl with high scores were rejected because of poor PI performance... reco letters were given due importance as well... the material in the reco letters was verified in the course of the interview and the reco letters graded...
I know, even after having gud profiles and scores, if u cannot see ur name on the list(and if u r thinking of going to the court regarding ur admissions, well pls go ahd with it).. , then u do not live at the highest of spirits. But cursing the system baselessly and contadicting the counter-examples as if they were default, would be going a bit far. Try to get the positives out of this and move on... anyways, i donot know how much i clarified ur queries (raised mostly thru' critical desperation rather than logic)...
All the best !

FnS

[Bugz_cool]

Originally Posted by Umashan

Hi,

You couldn't the hit the nail on his head any better. Very relevant questions. I haven't seen so many " I am shocked" emails in any B-School admission forum.

I have also been rejected. I am a 97 percentiler in CAT with 8 yrs exp. My GD/PI at Chennai didn't go badly by any standards. In fact GD was very chaos free and smooth and PI was very interactive and cordial without any goof ups.

I have been looking at the admitted list again and again since I couldn't believe that my name isn't there.

My theory is that adcom has selected candidates who are likely to accept the offer since there is not much time for the program to start. I was asked in my interview if I had applied to to any other institure and I told them that I have got an interview call from XLRI. I was being honest. May be that turned against me. Again this is just a guess. The adcom committee may have felt I am not suited for this program as the institute is entitled to have it's own criteria for selection. Only that in Glakes' case, the selection criteria don't seem to match with that of the general perception and hence so many "I am shocked" emails and posts.

It will be great if Glakes follows ISB in giving feedback to rejected candidates.

All the best to admitted ones. You all deserve it.

Life moves on for rejected ones. Some other day some other institue may find you fit for the program. May be something better is in store.

Regards,
Umashankar

PS: I tend to agree with your fourth point on popularizing the institute across the nation to get into the league of IIMs/ISBs.

Even i was asked about other calls in the interview n i had honestly said that i have an XLRI BM call..

i donno what are 'powerful' recos....n how do u find if ur reco is powerful??? the ppl who recommended me are of very high integrity and i havent even thot abt askin them what they wrote...

i had 98.03 in CAT, 99.41 in XAT, 5 yrs of workex...had a good GD, decent PI (u can never say great or pathetic unless u know how others did...)...

Do i have to say that i gotta call???

the only point where i will go with you is the changing of admission deadlines...i dont think other points hold much water...

i still donno whats the point being made by sayin
2) I also heard that GLIM conducted an interview on the 10th of March. Is it true ???

Congrats to all who made it....Better luck for other institutes (or for GLIM next yr) to those who missed out...

Finally, one thing i have learned from life...channelise your emotions...they are very powerful..let them not be wated where they are not required...

Happiness to all...

Saurabh

[gn24028]

Originally Posted by Nonconformist

Wow. This is as crisp as it gets. Thanks dude for such a post. The "Sincere Request" is earnest. I am sure many people, like me, would had rushed their essays to meet the deadline to find it later that it has been extended. It certainly puts the early applicants in a disadvantageous position unlike other global schools, where early applicants stands a better chance. I dont know what was the exact reason behind this move, but it certainly is deplorable.

The suggestion on giving feedback would surely bolster the image of GLIM and introduce more transparency in the admission process. It would be great to have it from this season, if possible.

My profile: B.E (CS), PG (IIT Kgp), 3 yrs IT exp, 620 GMAT, decent acads and extracurris, good GD/PI performance.
Result: Reject.

I am fully and completely with u sir, GLIM surely need add a bit more transparency in there process...now they say they are giving weightage to there essays and recomm and all that stuff...but if u look at a close picture of what happened....it goes like this:
Last Date: 20th Dec
Extended to 20th Jan...extended to 9th Feb...what for....due to what ever reason....were they not aware of this previously....lack of planning...and management...and then they will teach us how to be globally accepted managers.....then interviews start and and the process goes on and on....results come after 15days (of the last interview) and classes to start in about 30 days when they very well know that if they are taking people with work ex they do require some time to serve the notice period. we cannot leave a company in 20 days with whome we have been working for the last 5 yrs or so...but they search people with ethics....so called corporate ethics...lastly the lists come out and the admission committee is so sure that there would be very few who would leave...the waiting list list is also not out...if they have made the merit then the waiting guys shd also be told with the final list so that atleast the others can carry on with their work....and who are in the waiting can know there rank in the waiting so that they also can plan accordingly....all these things show lack of transparency...lack of lanning....lack of management....and undue pressure on the candidates....just to create the hype....with this kind of procedure i don't think GLIM can go a long way....as far as i am concerned...i have 5 yr of work ex presently working as Astt Manager in a GSK...cat 90percetile....Xth 84%..XIIth 78% &...NIT Electronics & Instru...descent GD good PI...but rejected....i am not bothered about rejection but atleast i should the grounds on which i am rejected....so that i can improve upon them and work hard next time....