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Question Re: Life @ SPJ Dubai Singapore SPJCM - 23-02-2008, 11:16 PM

hey folks...
need a quick opinion..
i have got SCMHRD and SPJCM..
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Re: Life @ SPJ Dubai Singapore SPJCM - 25-02-2008, 02:46 PM

i would personally prefer SCMHRD THOUGH BOTH R GOOD ENOUGH.... The only thing is SCMHRD is more well established
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Re: Life @ SPJ Dubai - 02-03-2008, 05:05 PM

SP jain (SPJCM) and SCMHRD are 2 very different Bschools . You need to see what do you want from an MBA .

SPJCM would give an international exposure and and a higher ROI as its a 1 year MBA and a better brand. I have also been told by several students that its got great faculty and Infrastructure. You will interact with people who have much more work experience.

On the other hand, SCMHRD is a well established Bschool with a decent brand and offers a 2 year MBA. The class may comprise of relatively younger students.

So you need to weigh your options and then take a call, if you have more than 2 years of work experience i think SPJCM would be a great place to do your MBA, otherwise SCMHRD is better.


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Re: Life @ SPJ Dubai - 02-03-2008, 05:24 PM

In the quest for the same answers i spoke to some of the present batch students in Singapore and UAE. Here is the Highlight of my discussion.
  • Placement started 25th FEB ,2008.
  • By 29th FEB , 80% of the batch was placed, rest are expected to be placed in the next 3 - 4 days.
  • Lowest accepted offer was 8 Lacs INR in India
  • About 25 students out of 142 from FINANCE & IT have accepted offers outside India.
  • Companies recruited from SP JAIN this year are : Barclays , CitiBank , Cognizant Tech, Google , Frost & Sullivan, Cedar Consulting, Hays Group , Boston Analytics, Reliance , Microsoft, HCL tech, Johnson & Johnson , TCS, Corporate Executive Bard , Yes Bank, Accenture Consulting , ICICI Prudential , GE Money , Barcode Gulf, Vodafone, Schneider Electrics, Franklyn Tempelton , PriceWaterhouseCoopers etc....
  • More than 75 companies participated in Placements.
  • They sounded very excited with the placements outcome.
I hope this will clear some of your doubts, I have some colleagues in both IT & FIN batches.


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Does anybody have any idea about the spjcm placements which are about
to start within a few days... I have heard through some sources that the
scene does not seem to be very good this year.. especially for the finance specializations.. because of the imminent slowdown in the world economy..
not many banks a visiting and even the no of shortlists has decreased..

I do not have the intention to create any bad mood over here... all that I have heard is through some sources here and there and I don't really rely on
them much... I think this is the best place to get the authentic information...
ppl, seniors.. please pour in any authentic information that you have..

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Re: Life @ SPJ Dubai - 02-03-2008, 05:55 PM

For students aspiring to join SP JAIN here are some useful peeks into the lives of SPJCM students:


Videos and events at SPJCM - I found this on Youtube:
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.=

The SP Jain Blogspot
Life at S P Jain Center of Management, Dubai - Singapore

SPJCM on wikipedia
SPJCM - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



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Re: Life @ SPJ Dubai - 03-03-2008, 05:22 AM

Hi All,

I can see a lot of discussion about how the placement scene is turning out to be this time around.This is an attemot to complete my previously incomplete post which i had started typing a month back for the JAN 08 batch , but as this is qually applicable to all the forth coming batches id like to complete it anyways.

Well to put things into perspective, i would give you a clear overall (and not just placements) snapshot of the current SPJCM status:

What to expect::

> For people looking forward to learning: You will not be disheartened. SPJCM faculty hails from some of the best bschools in the world including likes of Harvard Business School, London Business School, National Univ of Singapore , Nanyang Tech Singapore , ISB Hydrabad, IIM- A/B/C , SP Jain Mumbai , XIM Bhubneshwar and most from the industry. These profs do not come easy and this kind of mix is rear in any Bschool in the world. These Profs will ignite your thinking process if you want them to.

>For people looking for Experience : The experience can come from the following areas (by no means is this list an exhaustive one)...

----->Peers : SP Jain makes sure that it picks the best minds from amongst the applicants and also takes care of having the right demographical and cultural mix. The average batch work ex for my batch currently stands at about 3.5 Years with 2 freshers in a batch of 147 students. There are a few students who have close to 8 years of work ex and that just goes to show the diversity of the batch.

----->Classroom: Needless to say the "Great Indian Pathshala style learning" works well till date , expect ruthless class hours and even more unforgiving assignments and quizes (i have not slept for more than 4 Hrs a day in the last 2 weeks).

----->Teachers / Guest Lecturers: Wont reiterate the "Guru Gaan", but would definitely say expect the best and you will still be surprised by what SPJ is offering in terms of faculty.

----->Singapore/ Dubai: Lets call it "Tacit Knowledge" ! You will gain invaluable experience while you interact with some of the industry experts [during your Internship (SGP)] in these to cities.

-----> Exposure: This is not exactly a source but never the less , the exposure to Group dynamics and public speaking , research and anaylsis may drive you off the edge. You will be exposed in the true sense (thanks to the ruthless acad co-ordiators).

>Expect Geat Infrastructure : Dubai and Singapore college campus and Hostel have great infrastucture (at least surpassed my expectations). Even after working in Infosys Bangalore campus for over a year i still found the Singapore campus stunning. Classes are recorded and the 24 Hr wifi campus lets you stay connected to the world 24/7.

>Sleepless Nights , Sleepless Nights and more Sleepless Nights: Lets just put it this way "You will be kept busy!" Part of peer learning at SPJCM is to get students to do a lot of group work and that too in different groups. Alomst every course involves research , Presentation , assignments , discussions etc. in groups.

>Placements : At SPJCM placements is normally a month long event and this because of several reasons. So, expect placements to be a slightly longer process than you would hear about in the usual Indian Bschools , However, SPJCM placemnt process when compared to that of NUS , NTU , INSEAD is quite short and fast as these Bschools normally do not have a formal placement service and students take a good 2 -4 months to get placed.

Expect Great compnaies to visit the campus and also expect good or above industry standard salaries. Most companies visiting SPJCM considers it at par with SPJIMR, FMS & MDI and therefore the salaries are structured in the same manner, at times even higher.

Guys with relevant work experience and good academic background normally get placed the earliest.

> EXPECT A GREAT ROI : If you are good , epect this place to do wonders for your career. If you have focued on learning and made the most of what SP Jain is offering YOU WILL GET A GREAT JOB , absolutely no doubt about it!!!

>Profiles offered are also excellent : Consultant , Sr. Consultant , Asst. Vice President , Associate Consultant , Project Manager, Research Analyst, Fund Manager , Sr. Business Analyst , Business Development Officer, Regional Head are some of the common titles at SPJCM placements.


What NOT to expect::

>Do NOT expect a 1 Year Vacation/Holiday : People thinking of enrolling in for a 1 Year holiday will be in for a rude shock . The Administration is very strict and the curriculum will not let you settle with this kind of attitude , so please look elsewhere if you want to go for a holiday to UAE & Singapore. (SPJCM has had some people expelled who have fallen much below the minimum level of academic rigor or have resorted to unethical practices).

>Do NOT treat SPJCM as a JOB / PLACEMENT Company : For people who thought SPJCM is a ticket to a quick MBA after which you will get an out of the world job and then you can live happily ever after , coming to SPJCM could prove to be devastating.

People with this attitude end up focuing on just placements and not the learning which is what the corporates look for during the Placement week. Such students loose out on the key aspect of the GMBA and therefore struggle to convert any job interview. SPJCM will be a great catalyst to get a GREAT JOB if and only if you are capable and you have put an honest effort during the curriculum.

BottomLine: Expect great jobs only if you are deserving candidate , SPJCM does not want Miracles to happen for undeserving candidates.

>DO NOT EXPECT TOO MANY INTERNATIONAL STUDENTS: The number of international studensts in our batch was fairly low and we do not see the trend changing over night. Please expect most students to be from INDIA or at best NRI from US , UAE etc.

>DO NOT EXPECT A MILLION $ SALARY as soon as you graduate: Almost all students get very good salaries and compensation packages , but do not expect Rs. 1 Crore offers being made. Salaries are based upon every individuals competencies and worth to the recruiting company.

SPJCM does put a lower limit of salary any company can offer , this stands at Rs. 7 Lacs and this is mostly for freshers. The Indian packages are always above Rs. 9 Lacs for anyone with 2 + years of relevant work experience.

The average & Median INDIAN Salaries have been in much above Rs. 10 Lacs for the last 2 yrs. and is expected to go up further.

BOTTOMLINE: Do not worry about your placements at all, SPJ will get everyone placed with great pay and profiles at the end of the day. Focus on the learning and the exposure.

Hope this has given you a picture of things to expect and not to expect. All this was based on my perosnal experience at SPJCM for the last 10 Months.

Regards,

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Re: Life @ SPJ Dubai - 03-03-2008, 09:41 PM

Thanks a ton buddy.. this was extremely helpful. Just one more question :

Are the quoted salaries offered always the CTC figures.. i.e including the fixed or maximum possible variable bonus... or do some times the companies also quote just the gross figure ??

Sorry if my question sounds stupid, but I would still be keen to know
the answer.

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Hi All,

I can see a lot of discussion about how the placement scene is turning out to be this time around.This is an attemot to complete my previously incomplete post which i had started typing a month back for the JAN 08 batch , but as this is qually applicable to all the forth coming batches id like to complete it anyways.

Well to put things into perspective, i would give you a clear overall (and not just placements) snapshot of the current SPJCM status:

What to expect::

> For people looking forward to learning: You will not be disheartened. SPJCM faculty hails from some of the best bschools in the world including likes of Harvard Business School, London Business School, National Univ of Singapore , Nanyang Tech Singapore , ISB Hydrabad, IIM- A/B/C , SP Jain Mumbai , XIM Bhubneshwar and most from the industry. These profs do not come easy and this kind of mix is rear in any Bschool in the world. These Profs will ignite your thinking process if you want them to.

>For people looking for Experience : The experience can come from the following areas (by no means is this list an exhaustive one)...

----->Peers : SP Jain makes sure that it picks the best minds from amongst the applicants and also takes care of having the right demographical and cultural mix. The average batch work ex for my batch currently stands at about 3.5 Years with 2 freshers in a batch of 147 students. There are a few students who have close to 8 years of work ex and that just goes to show the diversity of the batch.

----->Classroom: Needless to say the "Great Indian Pathshala style learning" works well till date , expect ruthless class hours and even more unforgiving assignments and quizes (i have not slept for more than 4 Hrs a day in the last 2 weeks).

----->Teachers / Guest Lecturers: Wont reiterate the "Guru Gaan", but would definitely say expect the best and you will still be surprised by what SPJ is offering in terms of faculty.

----->Singapore/ Dubai: Lets call it "Tacit Knowledge" ! You will gain invaluable experience while you interact with some of the industry experts [during your Internship (SGP)] in these to cities.

-----> Exposure: This is not exactly a source but never the less , the exposure to Group dynamics and public speaking , research and anaylsis may drive you off the edge. You will be exposed in the true sense (thanks to the ruthless acad co-ordiators).

>Expect Geat Infrastructure : Dubai and Singapore college campus and Hostel have great infrastucture (at least surpassed my expectations). Even after working in Infosys Bangalore campus for over a year i still found the Singapore campus stunning. Classes are recorded and the 24 Hr wifi campus lets you stay connected to the world 24/7.

>Sleepless Nights , Sleepless Nights and more Sleepless Nights: Lets just put it this way "You will be kept busy!" Part of peer learning at SPJCM is to get students to do a lot of group work and that too in different groups. Alomst every course involves research , Presentation , assignments , discussions etc. in groups.

>Placements : At SPJCM placements is normally a month long event and this because of several reasons. So, expect placements to be a slightly longer process than you would hear about in the usual Indian Bschools , However, SPJCM placemnt process when compared to that of NUS , NTU , INSEAD is quite short and fast as these Bschools normally do not have a formal placement service and students take a good 2 -4 months to get placed.

Expect Great compnaies to visit the campus and also expect good or above industry standard salaries. Most companies visiting SPJCM considers it at par with SPJIMR, FMS & MDI and therefore the salaries are structured in the same manner, at times even higher.

Guys with relevant work experience and good academic background normally get placed the earliest.

> EXPECT A GREAT ROI : If you are good , epect this place to do wonders for your career. If you have focued on learning and made the most of what SP Jain is offering YOU WILL GET A GREAT JOB , absolutely no doubt about it!!!

>Profiles offered are also excellent : Consultant , Sr. Consultant , Asst. Vice President , Associate Consultant , Project Manager, Research Analyst, Fund Manager , Sr. Business Analyst , Business Development Officer, Regional Head are some of the common titles at SPJCM placements.


What NOT to expect::

>Do NOT expect a 1 Year Vacation/Holiday : People thinking of enrolling in for a 1 Year holiday will be in for a rude shock . The Administration is very strict and the curriculum will not let you settle with this kind of attitude , so please look elsewhere if you want to go for a holiday to UAE & Singapore. (SPJCM has had some people expelled who have fallen much below the minimum level of academic rigor or have resorted to unethical practices).

>Do NOT treat SPJCM as a JOB / PLACEMENT Company : For people who thought SPJCM is a ticket to a quick MBA after which you will get an out of the world job and then you can live happily ever after , coming to SPJCM could prove to be devastating.

People with this attitude end up focuing on just placements and not the learning which is what the corporates look for during the Placement week. Such students loose out on the key aspect of the GMBA and therefore struggle to convert any job interview. SPJCM will be a great catalyst to get a GREAT JOB if and only if you are capable and you have put an honest effort during the curriculum.

BottomLine: Expect great jobs only if you are deserving candidate , SPJCM does not want Miracles to happen for undeserving candidates.

>DO NOT EXPECT TOO MANY INTERNATIONAL STUDENTS: The number of international studensts in our batch was fairly low and we do not see the trend changing over night. Please expect most students to be from INDIA or at best NRI from US , UAE etc.

>DO NOT EXPECT A MILLION $ SALARY as soon as you graduate: Almost all students get very good salaries and compensation packages , but do not expect Rs. 1 Crore offers being made. Salaries are based upon every individuals competencies and worth to the recruiting company.

SPJCM does put a lower limit of salary any company can offer , this stands at Rs. 7 Lacs and this is mostly for freshers. The Indian packages are always above Rs. 9 Lacs for anyone with 2 + years of relevant work experience.

The average & Median INDIAN Salaries have been in much above Rs. 10 Lacs for the last 2 yrs. and is expected to go up further.

BOTTOMLINE: Do not worry about your placements at all, SPJ will get everyone placed with great pay and profiles at the end of the day. Focus on the learning and the exposure.

Hope this has given you a picture of things to expect and not to expect. All this was based on my perosnal experience at SPJCM for the last 10 Months.

Regards,

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Re: Life @ SPJ Dubai - 07-03-2008, 02:38 AM

Got some insider information from very RELIABLE sources on the placement scene in the IT & FIN batches:
  • More than 45 students out of 135 students have got offers above Rs. 10Lacs in India, and yes these are jobs in India.
  • Highest Indian salary is around Rs. 17.5 Lacs (multiple offers) for people with around 2 -4 years of work experince.
  • Highest DUBAI Salary is around Rs. 27 Lacs (mutiple offers) for people with 2 - 5 years of workex.
  • Some companies have also offered ESOPs worth Rs. 20 Lacs along with the compensation package which is redeemable at a later date.
  • Lowest Accepted salary is to Rs. 7.75 Lacs in India.
These figures sounds great and at par with the TOP - 5 Indian Bschool placement figures.




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Re: Life @ SPJ Dubai - 07-03-2008, 12:44 PM

To add on to Amit's point, the exposure of two cities will also add value to your profile. I am in full agreement with Amit that if you have more than 2-3 years of work-ex SPJCM will provide you much better returns. If you are a fresher, I think you should go for SCMHRD.


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SP jain (SPJCM) and SCMHRD are 2 very different Bschools . You need to see what do you want from an MBA .

SPJCM would give an international exposure and and a higher ROI as its a 1 year MBA and a better brand. I have also been told by several students that its got great faculty and Infrastructure. You will interact with people who have much more work experience.

On the other hand, SCMHRD is a well established Bschool with a decent brand and offers a 2 year MBA. The class may comprise of relatively younger students.

So you need to weigh your options and then take a call, if you have more than 2 years of work experience i think SPJCM would be a great place to do your MBA, otherwise SCMHRD is better.
   
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Re: Life @ SPJ Dubai - 07-03-2008, 08:06 PM

hi kavita and amit please can u get the stats for dubai campus too for marketing streams whats the status and packages there if u have friends there
   
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