Life @ SPJ Dubai

[baddy]

Sure kanishka,

Now when we have decided to go through programme we can meet....will be nice dicussing with you the exp.

Regards,
Amit

[coolank]

Originally Posted by baddy

Sure kanishka,

Now when we have decided to go through programme we can meet....will be nice dicussing with you the exp.

Regards,
Amit

Well so let's decide on the date when we can have the rendezvous. I propose 2nd April Its a Sunday so i guess every one shud be comfortable.
Ppl..if u have some other convenient date then come up with it..but please make sure that its on weekends coz i guess most of us r working ppl and wud nt be able to make up on week days!!

[anarchist_me]

Originally Posted by spitback

got an offer letter yest for the IT course yest..2 years ex in s/w...decent acads...got a few more calls ..will take the call after that...hopefully results of the others will be out by then...

hi,
me in bangalore too.
close to 3 years with IT major.
got thru IT mgmnt.
just post when and where, and i shall be there

[samakshahuja]

hey seniors and potential batchmates!!

i am samaksh ahuja and got an offer for admission to spjcm (SMM specialization) today itself..before i pay the amount to confirm my admission i want to clear a few doubts...and who better than those already at spjcm/planning to join it to answer..

i read some of the messages posted by u guys on the forum nd cpould make out that the placements are good..but i still would like to specifically ask ppl from the class of 2006 about their placements..are they going on guys??nd how good are they??r u guys expecting a 100% placement just like the batch prior 2 u??also i wanted to ask about the salaries in dubai..are they enough 4 a comfortable living out there...i mean not converting them to INR...are they decent??

i would request u guys to answer at the earliest as 16th march is the last date for me to pay up...thanking you!!

and by the way...is there ne1 who has also got an offer and stays in delhi...we could probably meet up guys!!
do lemme know
thanks
samaksh

[sidharthmittal]

Originally Posted by sushrutac

Hi Payal,
I had my gdpi on 25th (2pm) batch. Got an offer yesterday for WM...... anyone from that batch getting offers.......

I too have got the offer for Wm and have sent the initial draft today. Do get in touch.

[gagan.agrawal]

Originally Posted by sidharthmittal

I too have got the offer for Wm and have sent the initial draft today. Do get in touch.

hi... me too have an admit for WM.. and sidharth, u and payal are the first ppl i have heard from who too have WM. i have already paid my initial deposit. what about u guys? r u goin to take up the offer?

and any of u two from delhi?

[sidharthmittal]

Originally Posted by crackedbyCAT

Well that is one concern I have - the quality of people that are going to come in - as you say virtueofvenus that the evaluation process seemed too easy Even I had raised this issue before by asking whether anyone at all has been waitlisted/rejected. Well that query had been answered by ppl, who had actually seen some guys getting waitlisted. I am yet to hear of anyone who has been rejected.

Hi there,
Look on a given day somewhere around 40-50 students appear for an interview. So Around 180 students would have appeared for interview only in February atleast. Also around 200 students appeared for aptitude test on 18th of Feb. So If you see then from December onwards these guys would have interviewed around 600 candidates, with one month to go. I am talking of people who got interviewed and I think that quite a few people would not even have got an interview call.

So I think that things are not that easy afterall.

But the reason why we go to a business school is not just to get placed but to create a material difference within ourselves. If you see, then in US placements depend a lot on student.

This institute will provide us good education, actually better than most of the institutes in the country and that is what is the most important factor to be considered.

Moreover if one is good enough then he need not worry about anything else but rather look at this as a great opportunity to pursue a career of one's own interest with a good platform.

Regards,
Sidharth

[Vasundhara_S]

Specific query-
Fees :
A lady at the Mumbai office told me- food,air fares, accomodation, stationery, course fees...every thing is included in the 12.5 lakhs
The web site mentions otherwise...
eg. It says....air fares are to be borne seperately by students
It is normal to spend 600Dhs (or something) on Food...

Can some one please clarify?
I'm going to call them up again...
But I would like other interpretations

[ketanm]

Usually I stay away from posting in this section... since I dont belong to any B-school neither I am an aspirant... But seeing that lot of junta is still confused about the placement scenario...I would like to put up what I know about placements and in general about this school....this is totally based on off-hand information I got from few friends and there is nothing "official" about it

a) I guess there are still 30-35% students to be placed yet...
b) The placements are not that rocking since
-- Indian companies shy away from going to Dubai when they can get
the same/better quality ppl in India in abundance....(so unless they
want specific skill set e.g Retail or Services)... but traditional
companies in these sectors are still reluctant to hire the newly minted
hot-shot MBAs for higher roles and fatter paycheques. This is true
with these companies in India also. I have heard of SPJDuabi studnets
who have rejected offers because of this [not better roles or lower
salaries]. Despite this SPJDuabi has been able to attract lot of biggie
companies, so its a great effort.
-- Dubai companies come to campus, but the dubai industry works in a
totally different way. They wont give higher roles to a fresh graduate
(unless the students have substantial like 5-10 yrs exp). Also dubai
companies dont have the concept of Management Trainees. So there
is no set hirerachy for management cadre. You work your way up by
hard-work. Thats the idea there. So initially you sweat like a fresher
and then if you stay in dubai for say 5 years you can grow like
anything. But yeah you get ample money (remember no income tax in
dubai and accomodation+travel expense taken care by companies)
c) I have heard of students getting placements like someone in Finance
getting 13-14lakh placement in India in some financial company. In RM,
the highest seems to be 6-7 lakhs.
d) So placements are happening although not like Day0,Day1 etc etc as in
IIMs... but aint that true of all international schools... even ISB is yet to
place around 40 ppl despite having placements started in Feb. The
reason : people are just not willing to accept any role/job.
e) About school, the professors that come to teach are definitely
world-class. So you surely getting a good learning. Probably peer
learning is not as high as may be in ISB, since the entry to SPJDubai is
still a tad lenient.
f) The infrastructure is NOT world-class... but that is true of most indian
b-schools except ISB.
g) It will definitely need time to grow-up... the alum network is yet to
gain strength... but I have heard that the few first batch students are
currently at good positions after one year. For example, one person is
heading an entire south region of a big company as a sales/marketing
manager. Yet the school needs may be 3-4 years to gain some
reputation/brand name.

My suggestion would be to take you own call instead of getting confused by so many counter views. Definitely the ROI is a major factor. You need to spend a good 12-13 lakhs... and unless you take up a job in Dubai, it would be tough call since in India you cannt earn much (given the fact that you have income tax and other expenses)....Ofcourse there can be jobs in Singapore for the next batch...

Just a suggesstion though for people posting here.. its easy to bad-mouth an institute... (even probably I did it many times).. but I realised that it wont help you much... if I can gain so much information despite that I am not aspiring for any b-school.. then surely you also should be able to do the same...

Seniors here are doing a good job... and they have their personal lifes too...so be polite... thats the only way to gain info... Imagine out of a class of 100 probably you just see 2-3 ppl here... and if they also vanishes then how you will be getting any information...it wont hurt them.. but it will surely hurt you guys...

Best Luck to all...

Ketan

[gagan.agrawal]

Originally Posted by ketanm

Usually I stay away from posting in this section... since I dont belong to any B-school neither I am an aspirant... But seeing that lot of junta is still confused about the placement scenario...I would like to put up what I know about placements and in general about this school....this is totally based on off-hand information I got from few friends and there is nothing "official" about it

a) I guess there are still 30-35% students to be placed yet...
b) The placements are not that rocking since
-- Indian companies shy away from going to Dubai when they can get
the same/better quality ppl in India in abundance....(so unless they
want specific skill set e.g Retail or Services)... but traditional
companies in these sectors are still reluctant to hire the newly minted
hot-shot MBAs for higher roles and fatter paycheques. This is true
with these companies in India also. I have heard of SPJDuabi studnets
who have rejected offers because of this [not better roles or lower
salaries]. Despite this SPJDuabi has been able to attract lot of biggie
companies, so its a great effort.
-- Dubai companies come to campus, but the dubai industry works in a
totally different way. They wont give higher roles to a fresh graduate
(unless the students have substantial like 5-10 yrs exp). Also dubai
companies dont have the concept of Management Trainees. So there
is no set hirerachy for management cadre. You work your way up by
hard-work. Thats the idea there. So initially you sweat like a fresher
and then if you stay in dubai for say 5 years you can grow like
anything. But yeah you get ample money (remember no income tax in
dubai and accomodation+travel expense taken care by companies)
c) I have heard of students getting placements like someone in Finance
getting 13-14lakh placement in India in some financial company. In RM,
the highest seems to be 6-7 lakhs.
d) So placements are happening although not like Day0,Day1 etc etc as in
IIMs... but aint that true of all international schools... even ISB is yet to
place around 40 ppl despite having placements started in Feb. The
reason : people are just not willing to accept any role/job.
e) About school, the professors that come to teach are definitely
world-class. So you surely getting a good learning. Probably peer
learning is not as high as may be in ISB, since the entry to SPJDubai is
still a tad lenient.
f) The infrastructure is NOT world-class... but that is true of most indian
b-schools except ISB.
g) It will definitely need time to grow-up... the alum network is yet to
gain strength... but I have heard that the few first batch students are
currently at good positions after one year. For example, one person is
heading an entire south region of a big company as a sales/marketing
manager. Yet the school needs may be 3-4 years to gain some
reputation/brand name.

My suggestion would be to take you own call instead of getting confused by so many counter views. Definitely the ROI is a major factor. You need to spend a good 12-13 lakhs... and unless you take up a job in Dubai, it would be tough call since in India you cannt earn much (given the fact that you have income tax and other expenses)....Ofcourse there can be jobs in Singapore for the next batch...

Just a suggesstion though for people posting here.. its easy to bad-mouth an institute... (even probably I did it many times).. but I realised that it wont help you much... if I can gain so much information despite that I am not aspiring for any b-school.. then surely you also should be able to do the same...

Seniors here are doing a good job... and they have their personal lifes too...so be polite... thats the only way to gain info... Imagine out of a class of 100 probably you just see 2-3 ppl here... and if they also vanishes then how you will be getting any information...it wont hurt them.. but it will surely hurt you guys...

Best Luck to all...

Ketan

kudos ketan.. well said and well placed... something of this sort was much needed for us here... i guess all of us are getting too jumpy lately...