[jondil]

The quick answer is that it doesn't. Apart from the unfortunate nomenclature, PGPX is not the same as an executive MBA.

Exec MBAs are usually for those who have spent a long time in senior management and want a course that will help them make the jump to top management. PGPX will help people make the move to middle management if they have been individual contributors till then. For those who already have managerial experience, it will help them move up the ladder

Exec MBAs tend to be relatively relaxed part-time courses. PGPX is full-time, and far from relaxed

Originally Posted by nova123

What do people think about the MBA for Executives program at Wharton or Columbia? Leaving the cost part aside, How does IIMA PGPX program compare?

[Indian_MBA]

Originally Posted by krishvenkatt

My interview experience with ISB was equally dissappointing as well because I was interviewed by the Admissions director and another young chap who looked to me as a current student or an alumnus. No disrespect to the guys, but I did feel the shallowness in their knowledge to interview a person with 13 years experience. My take away from the interview was that ISB is valuable who wants to take the first step in the ladder but not for some body who has already taken many steps already and trying to leverage MBA to reach the top.

On the other hand, IIMA flew its professors to New York to talk to me. It means some thing to me.

For me, getting into middle / junior management of a multi billion dollar blue chip the end result from the programme. Honestly, I feel I would fail in that situtation. Targetted placement in a SME in a leadership role is what I am expecting. Hopefully, IIMA will do that for me.

VK

Not Even I/Ving for ISB having received the acceptance from IIMA....and IIMA does focus on individual fit for placements which is invaluable for people aspiring to move into senior management in a particular industry.

Without getting into the popular rhetoric about IIMA vs. ISB, let it suffice to say that at the end of the day its an individual decision and for me IIMA is far more coveted than B(May/may not IV), C(I/Ved) or ISB(Will not IV) for that matter.

Thanks,
-Sujai

[keerti_p]

Hi Puys,
It ultimately boils down to personal choices.
The posts have been useful.
I have decided to wait till 25th for the ISB results and in case they are not declared or I dont get in, then I would personally go and submit the required documents and the DD at IIMA on 26th.
thanks Puys.

[rsobti]

Originally Posted by minusten

No evidence. But the options are available. For example, all the top names atleast visit ISB for PGP. Same not true for IIMA PGPX. In reality, I dont think too many 8+ guys get into the names you specified - especialy with such prior relevant experience - unless of course you are on the dean's list. But the school itself puts a lot of effort in placing all of them. The difference is similar to sarkaary vs private companies. Private companies' life depends on its customers (students in this case) so they go out of their way to satisfy customers.

As far as branding is concerned, apart from FT ranking, almost all the industry bigwigs are in ISB's board. This itself is as much branding as you need for a B-School - to have all prospective employers in your school's board.

IIMA brand is probably slightly bigger because of the years of great reputation. Question is how big is PGPX?

Personally, I have a PGPX admit vs I did not even apply for ISB, which probably was a mistake as now I have almost nothing to choose from. Probably my research was a little late.

You can still apply for ISB R2. Deadline for which is 2 Dec.

[minusten]

Originally Posted by jondil

Been busy, but thought I'd mention that the placement process at IIMA, as with all student related activities, is student driven - it's just how the activities have traditionally been handled at IIMA

Regarding PGP and PGPX placements - the two placement processes are conducted in parallel, with oversight from a faculty chairperson. So the PGP Placecom will concentrate on PGP placements, and the PGPX Placecom will dedicate their time to PGPX placements. Where possibilities for synergies exist, they are leveraged by either team. Therefore, the placement process is specific to each program, and not clubbed into a one-size-fits-all approach. This provides the required focus on placements that each experience category needs.

About blue chips visiting PGPX - in a previous post, I had mentioned some of the MNCs that recruited from PGPX III.
http://www.pagalguy.com/forum/intern...rants-124.html (IIMA PGPX Class of 2011 aspirants!)

The complete list of companies that participated in the recruitment process for PGPX III is available on IIMA's website for public consumption:
One Year Post Graduate Programme in Management for Executives.

Cheers

This is really helpful. I went through some of the profiles on linkedin and now I am a little more motivated to take up the PGPX offer. Thanks, jondil!

[minusten]

Originally Posted by rsobti

You can still apply for ISB R2. Deadline for which is 2 Dec.

Thanks, rsobti. I am preparing my app for that as well - in case of a last minute change of mind.

Does anyone have any fedback on EMORY/KELLOGG 1 year MBA?

[minusten]

Originally Posted by keerti_p

Hi Puys,
It ultimately boils down to personal choices.
The posts have been useful.
I have decided to wait till 25th for the ISB results and in case they are not declared or I dont get in, then I would personally go and submit the required documents and the DD at IIMA on 26th.
thanks Puys.

Well, given your profile, I see no reason you need to fly at the last minute if you really want to be in ISB.

[target10]

I would echo the thoughts of Rishikesh.

In all these comparisons, we are forgetting the centerpiece in all this - that is YOU. Post MBA, everything heavily depends on how well you have utilized the opportunities placed in front of you and elevated yourself into a senior leader level. Your track record in terms of educational background and quantity and quality of work you did also matter, but those cannot be changed much for the admits at this point. What you CAN do is to squeeze out the maximum benefits from this one year.

Every institution will have its shortcomings. As prospective senior managers, what admits should do (I think) is to see how these shortcomings of the institution affects your goals, and see what they can do to fix them. You cannot expect to be mere students for 1 year, expecting the institution to do everything for you, and then suddenly start performing as leaders at the end of the year. Identifying and overcoming obstacles as an individual or as a group is part of the grooming. Challengs are usually opportunities as well.

These discussions have thrown up some good understanding of the issues these two schools face. I think now folks can decide which strengths they can tap, and which shortcomings they can live with or try to overcome.

Regards,
target10

Originally Posted by rishikesh15

Hi Nothing1954,
Minusten is not saying that ISB is good in placing ppl with 8+ years exp..rather (s)he has stated that it is a challenge for ISB.

As far as global ranking goes - ISB is in FT ranking . IIMA may get into FT next year - but ISB already has the time advantage -- which matters most (who are seeking for global recognition - whatever little it may be) for the 2010-11 batch..

The blogs mentioned above are by PGPX students... we can find plenty of blogs by students praising their own institutes..

All said and done - we can continue agruing about ISB PGP v/s IIM PGPX ... but in the end ..its an individual choice.. almost every post here talks about pluses as well as minuses of of courses...there is no clear winner for sure...Also lets not forget the most important factor -- the candidate. Its upto the candidate to decide which all factors are important to him/her... IIM/ISB can do no good if the candidate is not receptive / does not utilize the opportunity.

[dsr for MBA]

I dont want to participate in PGPX vs ISB discussion. I dont compare PGPX or IIMA with US Bschools or Europe B schools.
For the simple reason , I have admission from PGPX and I dont have from others.
I compare me with PGPX and me with out PGPX 2 years down the line , 5 years down the line and 10 years down the line.

I am convinced with PGPX.

Others who have admits from both , pl continue.

Originally Posted by target10

I would echo the thoughts of Rishikesh.

In all these comparisons, we are forgetting the centerpiece in all this - that is YOU. Post MBA, everything heavily depends on how well you have utilized the opportunities placed in front of you and elevated yourself into a senior leader level. Your track record in terms of educational background and quantity and quality of work you did also matter, but those cannot be changed much for the admits at this point. What you CAN do is to squeeze out the maximum benefits from this one year.

Every institution will have its shortcomings. As prospective senior managers, what admits should do (I think) is to see how these shortcomings of the institution affects your goals, and see what they can do to fix them. You cannot expect to be mere students for 1 year, expecting the institution to do everything for you, and then suddenly start performing as leaders at the end of the year. Identifying and overcoming obstacles as an individual or as a group is part of the grooming. Challengs are usually opportunities as well.

These discussions have thrown up some good understanding of the issues these two schools face. I think now folks can decide which strengths they can tap, and which shortcomings they can live with or try to overcome.

Regards,
target10

[Agarwal Vishal]

Hi Frnds & Snrs,

I am also planning to go for PGP programmes in IIMs. Currently I have 3.5 yrs of exp.
I know this thread is for PGPX2010, but I am planning for 2012 batch.

I have B.Tech degree with good acads. I am planning to prepare for a distance PGDIT (Symby).

Please let me know whether this willbe doing any good to me for admissions in PGP in future.

Thanks a lot
Vishal