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International and Indian MBA schools accepting GMAT Discussions about admissions, applications, essays and interviews for ISB, IIMs' PGPX and business schools in USA, UK, Europe, Canada, South East Asia or Australia.

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Re: Oxford Saiid & Cambridge Judge MBA 2009-2010 - applicants & admits - 22-09-2008, 09:10 AM

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I think low acceptance at JBS is may be due to no application fee.
With due respect I strongly disagree with your comment. From my point of view low acceptance rates at JBS do not relate at all with a zero application fee factor. Instead, just like any other world class institution, JBS will admit the very best candidates FROM THEIR PERSPECTIVE. Assuming a standard (competitive-competent) background many highly qualified individuals will be dinged from their dream schools but be accepted at others. It has more to do with how their classes are being composed throughout their admissions cycles and with the "feeling factor" mentioned in my previous post. Yes, adcoms do have the feeling factor too!

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Can anyone help me with stats of past year/s of placement at JBS & SBS. I couldnt locate it as of now. I think US schools are more friendly in providing placement/ summer intership related data.
Check these out
Cambridge
http://www.jbs.cam.ac.uk/mba/placement_report.pdf
Oxford
http://www.sbs.ox.ac.uk/NR/rdonlyres...mentreport.pdf

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As I understand Oxford is mainly considered good for finance and no so good for strategy/ marketing/ general management/ consulting ! Please correct me if I am wrong.
Take my advise, forget about rigid and misleading labels! At SBS (or JBS) you will get top-notch education for all the fields mentioned above

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Though FT ranks SBS & JBS pretty high businessweek does not consider so !! Any reasons for such discrepancy !!
Businessweek is an American publication while FT is a British one. Check out their rankings and you will discover many interesting outcomes! In addition their ranking methodology is very different too so results will vary accordingly.

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Re: Oxford Saiid & Cambridge Judge MBA 2009-2010 - applicants & admits - 22-09-2008, 10:15 AM

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Good start folks. thanks to Peruvian Guru, Deeia and Nitin for contributing to the thread and having it alive with activity!
My pleasure! we are here to help each other.

I will also apply to Ivey. However, unless knowing a little bit more about your personal goals, professional and academic preferences it would be irresponsible from my side to compare these schools "in cold". From my personal perspective I did not get the feeling factor from Queens but I would hardly argue that this emerging b-school sucks. Regarding Ivey I believe its case-method approach is very interesting, the program is also 12 months and has an excellent reputation in Canada. Furthermore, Ivey placements in mgmt. consulting (an alternative career path for me) are awesome as the school prepares you to think and act holistically. When comparing Ivey with JBS/SBS I would say candidates tend to be younger although this will soon change as 1YPs attract more experienced/mature candidates. If admitted to Ivey you will also get first-class business education.

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But my take on at least Judge (which is my #1 choice) is that its location in Cambridge provides for a great opportunity for people with interest in innovation management (my main interest), entrepreneurship, VC,etc becoz of the great academic and start-up environment there...
Indeed.

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Also, another important factor Judge offers is the opportunity to do 3 consulting projects...that means a whole lot of "practical" experience chance before u graduate!
I completely back you up here. Practice makes perfect and I have discovered that books alone wont take you too far.

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Re: Oxford Saiid & Cambridge Judge MBA 2009-2010 - applicants & admits - 22-09-2008, 03:54 PM

going by what i can sense from your posts...u r targeting JBS, SBS, Ivey and Queen's i presume???
The first three are on my list (that order of priority) and Vlerick in Belgium as the 4th one.
Did think of Queen's....but dropped it becoz it starts in May. am targeting Sep or later dates (2009).
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Re: Oxford Saiid & Cambridge Judge MBA 2009-2010 - applicants & admits - 22-09-2008, 10:42 PM

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going by what i can sense from your posts...u r targeting JBS, SBS, Ivey and Queen's i presume???
The first three are on my list (that order of priority) and Vlerick in Belgium as the 4th one.
Did think of Queen's....but dropped it becoz it starts in May. am targeting Sep or later dates (2009).
JBS, SBS, Ivey and HEC Montreal
in no particular order at this point...
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Re: Oxford Saiid & Cambridge Judge MBA 2009-2010 - applicants & admits - 23-09-2008, 01:32 AM

Thanks Peru Guru for your insights....

I also have JBS & SBS high on my list.


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Re: Oxford Saiid & Cambridge Judge MBA 2009-2010 - applicants & admits - 23-09-2008, 01:48 AM

Guys,

I read on JBS website that you have to be in the top 25% of your class to be eligible for their program :sarcasm:

I was in that category in class 10 and 12, but not in B.Tech.

So does that mean that the end of the road for me ?


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Re: Oxford Saiid & Cambridge Judge MBA 2009-2010 - applicants & admits - 24-09-2008, 09:40 AM

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Guys,

I read on JBS website that you have to be in the top 25% of your class to be eligible for their program :sarcasm:

I was in that category in class 10 and 12, but not in B.Tech.

So does that mean that the end of the road for me ?
What attracts me the most about JBS and SBS - each one with their unique strengths - is that these schools go beyond admitting standard profiles. At JBS/SBS MBA cohorts you will sit alongside engineers, economists, lawyers, opera singers, dentists and even vets! In fact, I know about a PhD candidate at JBS who is a veterinarian. If you want to confirm how reliable is my info please join Linkedin and search profiles of past and current MBA students from these schools or others which you may be interested in. This will also help you to benchmark yourself and assess your chances of admission.

A less than desirable GPA can be interpreted within the context of the academic institution(s) you attended (overall educational quality, study abroad experience if any, challenging majors-minors, personal problems you may have had which can be discussed in your essays, etc.) Once more, if you feel you have something unique, some kind of personal/academic/professional background, skills and/or achievements which you can share with your potential classmates make sure you highlight them. Of course, you will have to compensate a low GPA with a strong GMAT, smooth LORs and compelling essays. Bottomline, build an irresistible - yet honest and humble - package for the adcoms.

Its ok if you discard my advise but then... why deny yourself the chance to apply (and being possibly admitted)? JBS does not charge an app. fee and SBS's 100 pounds are definitely worth a shot. At the end life is 10% what happens to you and 90% how you react to this 10%.

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Re: Oxford Saiid & Cambridge Judge MBA 2009-2010 - applicants & admits - 24-09-2008, 10:44 PM

Thanks for the feedback.
Anyway I wasnt going to refrain from applying to these schools.

We had a percentage system instead of GPA. I was in the top 30 in a class of 80.

I am a Mech Engr from NIT Calicut (2004): One of the premier engg colleges in India.
GMAT: 680/5.5
Acads: Nothing to boast about (10th - 84, 12th - 73, B tech - 64%)
Work ex: Was in the steel industry for one year in India, then took up Marketing. Have worked in UAE, Oman and presently in Saudi Arabia.
Working as a Field Manager for Saudi Arabia in an American MNC.
4 engineers directly reporting to me (2 Indians, 2 Arabs).
Responsible for $8.5 million sales.
Extra-curr: Lots :gm

Presently, I have not made up my mind as to where I should be working post MBA. I have 3 options in mind. And I want to explore these options while doing my MBA. My belief is that if you have already decided where to work and what kind of job you want to do, you will be essentially closing yourselves to the multitudes of oppurtunities that an MBA ( Esp one so international in nature as JBS & SBS) offers.


I fear whether the adcom will take this in a negative manner - As a person who isnt sure of what he wants to do.

Also, is 680 on a lower side ?(To compensate for not coming in the top 25% of the class) I know that I can do better. But will 30-40 points make a big difference ?

Thanks in advance.


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Re: Oxford Saiid & Cambridge Judge MBA 2009-2010 - applicants & admits - 24-09-2008, 10:53 PM

Thanks for the inputs fellas...

so per my analysis...giviing some weightage to - FT ranking, placement, analysis by Peruvia bro, opportunities in consulting/ strategy and definitely my understanding as of now....my persobal rankings are -

1. Insead
2. HEC - Paris
3. JBS
4. IMD
5. SBS
6. IESE/ESADE - not done enough research frankly....

Guys somehow I am not clear if ppl in threads above are talking abt HEC - Paris or HEC- Montreal...I always meant HEC- paris

FT ranks - HEC Paris while business week ranks HEC - Montreal higher !!??

Can someone clarify - are HEC - Paris & Montreal are like Insead Singapore and Fountainbleau....or they are completely isolated different entities with only one thing common - HEC

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Re: Oxford Saiid & Cambridge Judge MBA 2009-2010 - applicants & admits - 24-09-2008, 11:00 PM

Dup post. Sorry.


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