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Re: PGPX IV - 2009-10: Application Process and Beyond - 10-10-2008, 06:52 PM

You need to have a US Citizen guarantor for your loan if you want one in the US. But with today's current financial situation it might get tricky to get a loan for a B-School outside US. I am not sure about the Indian loan situation, but I think interest rates are around 10-11%. But someone who has already taken student loan could tell us better.

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Re: PGPX IV - 2009-10: Application Process and Beyond - 10-10-2008, 09:06 PM

1. It is definitely better to convert the money to rupees before paying.
2. Paying a lump sum in undoubtedly better.
3. Interest rates for educational loan must be around 10-13%. Not sure, though.
4. One student (a US citizen) in the current batch tried to arrange loan from US, but couldn't because the institute was not accredited (not sure which one was expected). This year, I see EQUIS accredited on the IIMA home page. Maybe, it's possible to arrange loan from US this year. I personally plan to tap into the equity line of credit from my home - and I hope the bank doesn't slash the limit. Even personal loans from US may be much cheaper, however arranging one may be hard these days.

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Re: PGPX IV - 2009-10: Application Process and Beyond - 10-10-2008, 10:39 PM

Some of these details I have posted earlier, repeating some and adding some details.
1. Getting Indian student loan should be a breeze. SBI has new product called SBI Scholar which is for premier institutes like IITs, IIMs.
2. Rate of interest is around 13%. For SBI Scholar, it is advertised as 1.5% below regular educational loans. Real rate will be available when approval comes through, I am holding on to my app for interest rates to soften up a bit, which should be around the corner considering impending deflation in some economies and liquidity crisis. Expect to get funding upto 16L from SBI.
3. Make sure to work the interest payments into your financial plans. Though, banks tout interest as Simple Interest for moratorium but actually you pay the interest every month to avoid compounding (in case of HDFC edu loan) or higher interest rates (for SBI edu loan).
4. HDFC is the only other bank with a reasonable educational loan product. Weak points for HDFC are that a. they have processing charges, which they will waive after negotiations b. Repayment period is restricted to max 4 yrs, can negotiate to make it 5 yrs MAX c. Interest is compounded if not paid monthly.
5. I'll be funding 50% from my savings for following reasons:
a. Getting better than 13% returns in stock/bond market is possible over next 2 years but not likely over next 1 year with impending global recession. So, it is simply better economic sense to bring out max funding from savings.
b. I have a settled life in Faridabad (NCR). I'll create environ I can return to and start living without major investments. Thus eliminating the need for major funds immediately after PGPX. So, if you need big funds to get life up and running in India after PGPX, plan accordingly.
c. If there is genuine slowdown of the degree of depression, I'll be better off with lower EMIs and sedate lifestyle. Ending up pre-paying loan with savings after incurring interest for an year is not great idea, for me.

Even after you get the loan, you have to decide on whether you want bank to payout in lump sum to IIMA or go by quarterly payment plan. My choice is lump sum payment upfront.

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Re: PGPX IV - 2009-10: Application Process and Beyond - 10-10-2008, 10:44 PM

Is there a tax benefit on interest paid on student loans in India?
   
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Re: PGPX IV - 2009-10: Application Process and Beyond - 10-10-2008, 10:57 PM

There sure is a tax benefit on students loan in India, but I don't know how much.

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Re: PGPX IV - 2009-10: Application Process and Beyond - 10-10-2008, 11:05 PM

I was wondering if it would be beneficial to invest personal savings in a FMP (HDFC has one) in India that provides 10% after tax returns, take student loan @12% and get tax savings for the interest paid.
   
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Re: PGPX IV - 2009-10: Application Process and Beyond - 10-10-2008, 11:25 PM

When are guys who have interview on Oct 14th i Newark reaching there? Let's meetup if possible. If anyone is looking to share acco/transporation, let me know.
   
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Arrow Re: PGPX IV - 2009-10: Application Process and Beyond - 11-10-2008, 08:48 AM

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Is there a tax benefit on interest paid on student loans in India?
"Chapter VIA of the Indian Income Tax Act:
DEDUCTIONS TO BE MADE IN COMPUTING TOTAL INCOME >>> Deductions in respect of certain payments >>> Section 80E, DEDUCTION IN RESPECT OF REPAYMENT OF LOAN TAKEN FOR HIGHER EDUCATION.

80E. (1) In computing the total income of an assessee, being an individual, there shall be deducted, in accordance with and subject to the provisions of this section, any amount paid by him in the previous year, out of his income chargeable to tax, by way of interest on loan taken by him from any financial institution or any approved charitable institution for the purpose of pursuing his higher education or for the purpose of higher education of his relative.

Main points to avail the deduction are :
1 Eduction loan should be taken by Assessee.
2 The repayment should be out of income chargeable to income tax means if repayment is made from income exempted from income tax than deduction will not available.
3 The amount eligible for deduction is repayment of eduction loan interest.
4 There is no limit for amount of repayment of interest
5 This deduction is available in respect of the initial assessment year and seven assessment years immediately succeeding the initial assessment year or until the interest is paid by the assessee in full, whichever is earlier.
6 Initial Assessment year means previous year in which assessee starts paying the interest amount.
7 The loan should be taken for the purpose of higher eduction,and higher eduction means full-time studies for any graduate or post-graduate course in engineering, medicine, management or for post-graduate course in applied sciences or pure sciences including mathematics and statistics;
8 The loan should be taken from any financial institution or any approved charitable institution.
9 The loan should be taken for higher study of himself or studies of relative

Earlier to PY 2006-07 the deduction was available only for loans taken and repaid by the assessee himself, but after finance act 2007 ,"or for the purpose of higher education of his relative" has been added - Relative under this section means the in relation to an individual, means the spouse and children of that individual.

There is no deduction available for repayment of principal ,this deduction is available to only for interest.

This deduction is available for individual only and not for other type of assessee . The loan should be for pursuing higher studies means its includes loan taken not only for tuition or college fees only but other incidental expenses for pursuing such studies like hostel charges,transport charges etc.,

There is no condition that the course should be in India ."

- as per point [5] above, If you start repaying your interest during the course period itself (when you may not have any taxable income), you can claim deduction for upto 7 years after your course is complete. [Course year will be PY + 7 subsequent years]

If you decide not to 'service' the interest component during the course period and avail the repayment holiday till you get back into a job, then you can claim deduction for upto 8 years after course completion... [PY + 7 years]

The decision should be based on the quantum of your loan, since if the compounding of the interest during the moratorium adds up to less than the 1st year tax savings after your course completion, it makes sense to let the interest add up and get a deduction from your income in the next year.

If your loan amount is less, then it makes sense to pay the interest during the course itself.. since your tax savings will be less than the compounding effect.

Once the final interest rates are published on the IIMA website and you figure out the loan amount you want to go in for, you can do the calculations to arrive at a decision.

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Arrow Re: PGPX IV - 2009-10: Application Process and Beyond - 11-10-2008, 09:21 AM

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There sure is a tax benefit on students loan in India, but I don't know how much.
"9 The loan should be taken for higher study of himself or studies of relative

Earlier to PY 2006-07 the deduction was available only for loans taken and repaid by the assessee himself, but after finance act 2007 ,"or for the purpose of higher education of his relative" has been added - Relative under this section means the in relation to an individual, means the spouse and children of that individual."

One option worth exploring is to see how this above condition can be used to split the loan between yourself & your spouse / parent.

Generally, loans with lower amounts are easier to procure, come with a lower interest and loans of around 4.5l are available without any collateral too from most banks... so if you take 4.5l & your spouse takes 4.5l , both should be able to claim deduction from taxable income for the interest paid.

Add in the benefits of lower interest rates + the savings by avoiding compounding on atleast half of the loan during course period... an option that warrants further investigation.
   
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Re: PGPX IV - 2009-10: Application Process and Beyond - 11-10-2008, 09:33 AM

In fact, I am adopting this strategy. I'll park part of my savings in fixed maturity deposits for 18 mos (10.5%) and take edu loan (SBI schola at around ~11% and maybe falling further over next month) at marginally higher rates. This will give me:
1. Some basic liquidity (for stuff like school admission/small car etc.)
2. Cushion for throughout the program
3. Flexibility to use these same funds, if under utilized after MBA, to prepay part of the loan. Cost of maintaining buffer will be just 1.5% of the buffer (after taxes), a negligible cost in current volatile environment.

In fact, this is very good strategy, in my opinion, to take big edu loan and park savings at 10%, and prepay after the program. Tax benefits are too small to be a decision swinger.

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