Schulich (York univ) applications and admits - 2008 batch

[excitingmba]

I have not used FT data re average salary reports. Go on the schools website and see the average salary report for 2007.

I don;t understand your point. Though you are discouraging others from using FT rankings or data but at the same time you are using the average salary reports from FT.
I work in Ireland and believe me 120,000$ salary is not that good here as the cost of living is very high. You pay more for everything eg rents, food, eating out etc. Samme goes for uk. So 140000$ average salary for LBS graduate in London does not fascinate me at all.

What do you think of Schulich? Genuinely. your friends say .....

[Barricuda]

Since you were mentioning rankings and salaries I assumed that you got both data from the same place, and so I just wanted to correct the figures that you mentioned (I guess referencing your data would be useful next time... you will come across this rule when doing your Bschools assignments as well )

And if there is still confusion, I can clarify again... that I discourage people to use rankings to make final decisions in choosing bschools.....

Getting a job that pays well depends on individuals... If $140000 is the average salary for LBS then by general arithmetic laws there are a bunch of people who earn above the average, and if you are good enough, then you will be among them..... anyways, choosing BSchools based on average salaries can be more fatal then choosing it based on magazine rankings....

What I think of Schulich is there on post#13 on page 2 of this very thread.... It is not very specific, but it is definitely not negative....

are you originally from Toronto? (I ask because your location says so)... If you are then I am surprised you would compare Rotman and Ivey with Schulich based just on salaries..... my opinion of Schulich is that they are good and at least seemed to be rising up the ladder fast... the people whom I have met from there are smart and good.... It is cheaper than Rotman so, some folks have chosen Schulich over Rotman just based on affordability (otherwise Rotman would have been the preferred choice). Personally I don't believe in comparing a one year MBA to a two year MBA as they cater to people with different needs, so I wouldn't know how to compare Ivey with Schulich. But Ivey has the best one year program in Canada and based on past reputation, if they still had a 2 year program I think it would still have been rated above Schulich. I haven't visited the Schulich campus so I cannot confirm or deny the negative comments on the school that other folks have posted here....

Originally Posted by excitingmba

I have not used FT data re average salary reports. Go on the schools website and see the average salary report for 2007.

I don;t understand your point. Though you are discouraging others from using FT rankings or data but at the same time you are using the average salary reports from FT.
I work in Ireland and believe me 120,000$ salary is not that good here as the cost of living is very high. You pay more for everything eg rents, food, eating out etc. Samme goes for uk. So 140000$ average salary for LBS graduate in London does not fascinate me at all.

What do you think of Schulich? Genuinely. your friends say .....

[CanadianDesi]

*User has decided to close his account and delete all of his useful posts*
He is too ambitious, educated, and busy to continue .....

He has also come to the conclusion that once people have their minds focused on something..
Their ideas will not change.. even in the face of loads of information, opinion and discussion against..

If you want to chat further, feel free to come to the 24th floor of 277 park avenue, New York,NY.
And ask Diane, the receptionist, for Rahul..

My building is located at the intersection of E 48th Street and Park Avenue.

Cheers.

Rahul.

[excitingmba]

canadian desi,
you make me laugh. meena is scared of students at york now. I suggest that u and meena find a child minder. Is meena not scared of all the gun violence in colleges in us, is she not scared of serial killers in us.
Boy, look after meena.

You are saying that the quality of education at schulich is not great. Well, with average gmat of 660, which means that there are students with good gmat and grades, I find it hard to believe this. Traditionally rotman and ivey are respected for their placements in the finance sector and they are good colleges. I completely agree.

My data on average salary is from the career report from the college websites. And you talk like a jerk. Your reasoning is so stupid that i am surprised that you got admission at babson. What was your gmat score-500? huh.
Because a college has lots of international students indicates that it is not liked by the locals- you must be out of your mind. Apply the same reasoning to harvards and stanfords, LBS.
You might have a point but your reasoning is completely whacked up.

I hope you don't cleann windows on wall street.

[CanadianDesi]

Excitingmba, one of my IT colleagues at JP did a detailed IP address check on you last night...
It appears your IP can be traced to mutliple username(s) on these threads..
One more comment on my dear cousin..
And the info on your real username(s).. home address, telephone, and other contact info will become public. This is not a threat but a promise.


BTW my GMAT score was 690. Not a great score by Indian standards, but certainly enough to get me into Schulich if I wanted to.

[excitingmba]

Show me what you have.

Oooooops.

And, how is meena?

[lostsoul4mba]

Originally Posted by excitingmba

Show me what you have.

Oooooops.

And, how is meena?

Hey Exciting MBA,

i am with yu on this...i dont on whether yu r fke or nt but then yr comments were very appropriate and i am in complete accordance to yr understanding here.....

[paghsihsa]

Hi,
I have got a call for schulich school for fall 2008 admissions. Can we meet or talk so that we can come out of all confusions after this thread? My personal id is hsihsa.bhatnagar@gmail.com

[excitingmba]

Unfortunately i amm not based in india so we can't meet.

what's your profile? Just wondering.
Did you do your research before applying for this course? Can I ask you where?

Schulich is a good college. If you look at the comments of canadian desi and barricuda, they don't reflect much.

canadian desi(confused as the name indicates) is so unsure about his comments that after i questioned his reasoning, he does not reply anymore.

Top american schools offer an advantage. But low rannking schools there won't offer you much. you will need an h-1 and the sponsorships and still no sign of green card. If you wnat to go back to india, then i am sure the recruiters there are aware of schulich, rotman, ivey.
IF you look at FT rankings, schulich's audit,like ivey's, was done in 2002. Salaries are bit low in canada and average salary is no reflection on what you will get. Considering there are almost 65% international students and most of them from china(with not enough english), i,m sure it brings the average salary down as some students go back to their countries. Also in the first year,many companies give less salaries and then the salaries probably rise.

And, if some of the students do not have good english. so what. recruiters won't recruit them but you. It is your opportunity to shine.
Schulich has a good ranking and it is respected in canada. Trust your own judgement.
Are you looking to apply for pr in canada too?

Write me if you need more info. Also have you also applied to rotman and ivey?

[CanadianDesi]

Excitingmba you are giving yourself too much credit.
I lack reasoning/analytical skill???

You are the one who clearly lacks in this department. You must be either dyslexic or illiterate because after going through this forum, you don't even realize BARRICUDA said nothing negative about Schulich in any of his comments!! In fact he supports most Canadian schools!!!

So why must you say negative and insulting things to him?? Your ENGLISH READING skills are clearly as horrible as your writing skills.. Why then should anyone listen to your advice about MBAs in English speaking countries?? What could you possibly know???

Anyway, I have left many honest, truthful comments about Schulich that some of you may have had the fortune of reading. My motivation was to give Schulich hopefuls a realisitic picture of what the school is like..and what to expect.

If your heart tells you to go to Schulich - so be it. It's clear there is no amount of info, advice, or personal experience that will make you do otherwise. And if it backfires, do not say I did not warn you!!!!


Finally, how many of you want to be the next Vinod Khosla? The next Vikram Pandit or Indra Nooyi? The next Suhas Patil, Arun Sarin, or Rajat Gupta (past managing director at Mckinsey). If you do - go to the United States.

The country is so unbelieveably open to talent and skill that they will push anyone - regardless of colour, background, or ethnicity right to the top!!! The US is the true epitomy of a capitalistic meritocracy!! Now I experience this dream everday. At JP, I get endless respect and attention based on my ability. There is already a push to move me into more important roles! Having worked in Bay Street it is nothing compared to here.

Toronto is still very much a "clubby" city - where high affluence and senior ranking is passed through white upperclassmen generation after generation! It is a country that knows nothing about true competitiveness and democracy - but preserving power and wealth. What it is, is a mix of cronyism and nepotism! The saddest part is that white Canadians are the most discrete and subtle about it. You would never EVER know it exists. Truth is they want the Indians and Chinese for the lower level jobs that the whites do not want to do! They want them to pay taxes to finance the retirement/health and pension costs of their aging population! These are things that many of you will never understand because you did not grow up in Canada! This is why you need guidance!

That being said, you CAN get a decent good paying medium-ranking job in Toronto with an MBA - manager/senior manager (Ivey, Rotman) - but if you have the brains, the skill, motivation and endurance the US is the place to be! You can break right through to the top!