[Barricuda]

Originally Posted by gandhiK

Will now apply at Rotman/Queen's (want to stay in Canada)

I donno... I saw you post in the Rotman thread trying to discourage prospective candidates to Rotman with your notcanada.com propaganda (http://www.pagalguy.com/forum/intern...tml#post919900 (Admitted : Rotman business School,Toronto)) .... and here you are saying that you are gonna apply to Rotman.... I don't think people should value this guy's opinion too much....

[gandhiK]

Im only putting wut i see from other sites here. None of these opinion is my own! Since when is asking what i see on other site tru propaganda? I am trying to learn, ask question, and share my knowledge only? Ppl think I speak of my experience but this is others experience. I only share wut I learn from other forum.

I recently visit Schulich school after reading these because want to see for myself. These other posters is right. Sorry if u feel in this way on 'propaganda'. If u are in Toronto go visit and see for yourself if is untrue. I made trip from Ottawa. -- Karan Gandhi

[Barricuda]

Originally Posted by gandhiK

If u are in Toronto go visit and see for yourself if is untrue. I made trip from Ottawa. -- Karan Gandhi

I am a Rotman student and have friends from Schulich... I have not met a single person who driving cabs after studying in the IITs, Schulich or Rotman neither are the folks crying over their decision to join Schulich, Rotman or any canadian school...

In the Rotman thread you said "Canada is not for you/You will apply only to US and UK schools" and now you say "You want to stay in Canada and apply to Rotman and Ivey".... I cant help but think your sense of information is misguided... the notcanada.com discussion has come up before and I don't think it paints a correct picture about the scene in Canada at all....

[Smoothexec]

Hey guys. I just stumbled upon this post and thought I'd drop in a few cents. Word of caution: I am currently an Ivey MBA student (so may be a bit biased heheh). For Canadian schools the pecking order is as follows.

Rotman/Ivey>Queen's>UBC/Schulich>Mcgill/WLU/Mcmaster etc.

Rotman is a world top 10 finance school & the best finance school in Canada (MBA,MFin), Ivey is known for its case based teaching (and is tops for Management Consulting, and IBanking) and Schulich is known for its marketing and advertising program.

Based on what I have heard from three recruiters and current students at the school, gadhiK may in fact be right! Schulich has just begun to face some serious turmoil. Based on my understanding, recruiters are increasingly turning a blind eye to the school. They are finding that most (not all) of Schulich's grads are not "employment ready". Major financial institutions, brokerage houses, venture capital and management consulting firms major gripe: grads lack strong communication (negotiating, client facing, and networking skills) , leadership, and creativity. These companies are looking for the most poised...intelligent...confident..and polished grads and are now bypassing Schulich and looking further down in the pecking order (MAC/WLU) for them.

Whether this is in fact a problem with the school curricula (moulding the student) a problem with their selectivity standards (no interview, very low TOEFL scores for Chinese students, disproportionately high international student body etc) is unknown! What is known is that it is causing significant harm to the reputation of the school.

I believe the 34 school drop in the Financial Times ranking, and the sharp drop in AVG salary from '06 to '07 can both be attributed to this... Take a close look at the research guys.

Lastly, and on a softer note, if Mr.Karan Gandhi was accepted to Schulich, I can only imagine what kind of standards they have! I could not understand a word you said dude!! HAHAHA, my GOSHHH!

[gandhiK]

What is these? I gain 640GMAT (4.0AWA) and have strong acads? Is wrong I gain admit to Schulich pool?
Is insulting for you?
What is everyone so evil? You belong to low caste exec?
I no longer come here. Everyone insult me if i only try and help.
You make own decision and see for yourself. If backfires badly, and no jobs or opps
dont say i dont warn you.
Karan.

[gandhiK]

So Is Smoothexecs Untouchable Or Sudras?
I wait and hear from you.
Is not nice wut you do and says! I only try and help here.

[gandhiK]

Is pictures I find on class 8 of schulich 2007 grad party. Is typical class in Schulich. You look ands then you find. Is true? Is not what Schulich guide show! I go to school & see it in library , & food mall. Go first , then talk! None of these ppls talks in English in librarys & is talk in Cantonese and Mnadarin and Tagalog! Is all East European immigrant, Chinese Immigrant, some Tamil, Arab and Indian.
Is true is Schulich depend on internationals student to fills seat because most Cdns go elsewhere?

Is Barricuda "Trust me I know what I am doing" is why you go Rotman not Schulich???

[Barricuda]

Originally Posted by gandhiK

Is Barricuda "Trust me I know what I am doing" is why you go Rotman not Schulich???

Dude... I have no idea what your problem is... my problem with you is that you are painting a misery picture of Canada is general without getting your facts right (I am basically pissed that you keep bringing up the website notcanada.com on various threads in the forum).... If you had simply stated your opinion in about Canada and left it at that, it was fine.... but you go Canada bashing in the Rotman thread - trying dissuade candidates to join there... and then you come to the Schulich thread and say that you will be applying to Rotman yourself.... stop contradicting yourself.... although I think you have done enough damage for yourself.... I doubt there are going to be many takers for your posts... good luck..


p.s. no doubt I chose Rotman because it is the better school in my opinion, but not every person on this forum has admits from both schools to make a Rotman vs Schulich decision....

[gandhiK]

Is what others says on other forums! Not me! For millions times, I not bashing. I very very sad about this because peoples mistakes what I say and insult me for nothing (thinking I say this)! I jus paste my tough researching here and people turns and insults me for no reason!

I just cut &paste to ask questions from Pagalguy user and share wut I learn! I post what others say about Canada to see opinions in Rotman (most active Canadian forum). about continue study here b/c Canada is what I do. Thats it. Last time I come to pagalguy. I tell you millionth time, these opinion not my own. Read forum with care before you speak.

Last if is ppl dont take advice is up to them. I only advise. I encurage people to go for campus tour first to get real picture b4 admitting.. It applies for all school. Bye Bye. Karan.

[Smoothexec]

Dude!!!
It was a small joke about your English facility!!. How can you bring caste into it?? What has it to do with the discussion at hand??
I feel very sorry for you Karan. You lose credibility everytime you speak. You maybe upset because you blew $$$ on Schulich, but don't take it out on barracuda and myself here...

Sadly your comments on SCHULICH do have some merit and truth !
But you must learn to speak in a manner for people to listen!
Otherwise nobody will EVER respect your opinions..

You are right, the Schulich school is facing some serious issues ahead. The problems are reflected in its slide in ranking and salary. It fell from # 18 to 49 this year on the most reputable ranking in the world!!! But why? If one looks at the salary column & compares it to the other schools -even (#51-100), anyone can note there's a HUGE discrepancy. BUT WHY? It certainly gives much for any Schulich prospect to worry about. What does the future hold? Will the school fall further in the rankings? Out of the rankings? Will salary continue to decline?? Or will it rise up!

As I stated in the previous post, there is a number of possible reasons for this!! The major one is selectivity!! Colleagues tell me the selectivity (admission criteria/ standards) are very low at Schulich. There is no good criteria to "filter" poor/inadequate candidates (most notably those with very poor English skill). The selectivity at Rotman and Ivey is much more scientific and analytical (the latter requires interviews). Recruiters keep this in mind. I have heard many qualified candidates decline offers of admission from Schulich (60-70%) to accept more desirable options elsewhere in the US and Canada. Now the school is using scholarships as leverage (to fight to keep them).
In the end, many of those who ultimately accept Schulichs admission are Chinese; accepted with exceedingly low TOEFL scores. A few even get by with sub-550 GMAT scores (530,540). This lessens the school's reputation!! Many of these students lack good control and command of English!! The result is that it turns many of the top companies away!! (and brings down average salary). See the cyclical effect?
Then all graduates have to suffer!

Your research is good Karan. In a small way, I admire your approach. You are smart to look past the admission books and do campus tours. Schools will always try to influence and paint a rosy picture (#3 in Forbes, #2 in Economist etc etc. ) Further, admissions books only reflect and discuss the top 5% of the graduating class - who are always highly successful at any school. What one should be concerned about is the population of the masses - of the entire student body that you will identify yourself with. Does it attract or detract recruiters from the school. And how will it reflect and impact you? Take this piece of advice..

In future Karan please speak in a respectable manner!!! Your remarks here are relevant but you have still left a very negative impression of yourself as a person, for me and the rest of us..