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Re: Good B schools counselling centres in Delhi - 01-05-2008, 06:50 PM

Nice Post columbia10admit..

I'd myself paid up one of the counsellers you mentioned in your post and I never used her services. Well, I actually stopped taking help from em after I realized that I was the one doing all the real work.

I think columbia10admit is bang on target with her research on all these "counseling" centers. Do not depend on these experts for your school selection/ interview prep/ or to even help you add some magic content (I only wish there was some) in your essays using their valuable years of counseling experience and research. Of all the places mentioned - Genesis was the most convincing and also the most intimidating. He will play mind games with you, make you feel that you will get no where without him and will tell you that his services come for a price (a good percentage of Liberia's deficit). Take it or leave it!

However, I must say that he probably was the best of the lot. I know people who have got a lot of admits from good schools and had used these consultants. All of these places will expect you to sent em write ups for various essay topics and then they'd use that content to create essays for you (at times cliché ridden, and full of grammatical errors). The quality of the essay will vary depending on how early you have provided your inputs (never expect quality for essays that you demand a night before the deadline). It will also depend on how hard you push your counselor/ essay writer, how many revisions they undergo and how informative your comments are. After you receive the essays you'd probably have to remove all the clichéd content and make it error free (your GMAT verbal prep should come in very handy here ). Well anyway, the point I am trying to make here is that if you want results from your counselor, there is a lot of hard work involved! Hence I'd chosen not too long ago, to revert back to my writing skills ( Self- belief is the key here ), my couch and a warm mug of coffee.

and what I'd learned from the application process is that :

No one can write better about yourself than you! Write and then get it refined/ critiqued by a good friend if you wish. Start as early as possible and get your essays ready by mid October (life gets a lot easier if you do that). put in a lot of research for every school you really wish to get into. Search 2nd yr students out on orkut/ facebook etc and talk to em - this will also help you in your school selection. I'd have probably never wasted my money applying to some of the schools only if I'd talked to people earlier. If you wish to spend money on something, it should be your resume. Make sure it looks crisp, good enough to make someone want to talk to you. Lastly, apply to as many places as you can (I know this is against the conventional wisdom), as you never know which place will give you a free ride, which place will want you to be a part against all odds.... and after all it feels good to be spoilt for choice.

thats a lot of gyan aye?

Hope some of it was helpful!

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hi,

i wanted to put in my 2 penny bit worth here.. was getting a little concerned reading all the posts here.

so go out there, research, network - talk to ppl from PG who are informed and have got admits; talk to seniors.. talk to ppl from schools. you dont need consellors. save that money to app to more schools or to pay for your loan

good luck!


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Re: Good B schools counselling centres in Delhi - 01-05-2008, 08:36 PM

one last thing.... you shd get your essays reviewed, but Not by counsellors... despite using a supposedly 'good' conusellor, i did all the work myself - sometimes they told me nonsense and i had to start from scratch myself!

i had written a post on who to talk to, here:


http://www.pagalguy.com/forum/intern...ml#post1092254 (Columbia '10 admit taking questions)

am paraphrasing some of it:

made a few ppl read my drafts:
- students/alum from the school i was apping to (didnt know anyone personally. asked friends for their conatcs. got in touch with ppl whose adresses were on the website. begged them they were nice!! i was lucky!!) , to make sure i was getting the feel of the school right. to make sure nothing i said sounded irrelevant/stupid or showed that i didnt know the school

- some friends sometimes to make sure i wasnt coming across as fake; that my personality was coming out alright.
- also basically ppl who understood the career trajectory of my profession, to make sure my goals sounded realistc, plausible, ambitious; in terms of the goal itself. and some ppl in the US in my career for the US perspective: things are slightly different there. expectations from my job role wdve been different too. so to make sure it was all seamlessly falling in place.
- also made someone unconnected to all this read my essays to get a laypersons view; to eliminate rhetoric and jargon; to make sure i was leaving an impact on someone who knew next to nothing abt my work - to make sure i had a Human context.

- ok. you asked abt whose opinion mattered.. well students when they spoke abt their schools; office ppl when they talked abt my goals/job.. friends when you talked abt me; and for impact



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put in a lot of research for every school you really wish to get into. Search 2nd yr students out on orkut/ facebook etc and talk to em - this will also help you in your school selection. I'd have probably never wasted my money applying to some of the schools only if I'd talked to people earlier.


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Re: Good B schools counselling centres in Delhi - 02-05-2008, 12:34 AM

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- students/alum from the school i was apping to (didnt know anyone personally. asked friends for their conatcs. got in touch with ppl whose adresses were on the website. begged them they were nice!! i was lucky!!) , to make sure i was getting the feel of the school right. to make sure nothing i said sounded irrelevant/stupid or showed that i didnt know the school

Wow! That is some dedication! Well quite obviously that is what it takes . If I were to get into this process again, I would do all of those things recommended by you .


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Re: Good B schools counselling centres in Delhi - 15-07-2008, 09:18 AM

I stumbled upon this thread and engaged in a cover-to-cover reading..had a vested interest since I run an essay editing website. Few comments:

1. Don't equate charges with quality. As a fellow ISB alum stated in a previous post, look for people who don't depend upon this for their livelihood; in most likelihood, they do essay editing for passion and money is not the only motivator…the difference will show in the quality delivered.

2. When I launched my website, and tried to google it few days after launch, I was petrified at the following entry appearing at the very top of google search: "<website name> is a total fraud and it has taken thousands of rupees to write essays which it never gave". Clearly this was the handiwork of some competitor. It took me some time to reconcile how dirty people can play….Due to word of mouth and satisfactory clients, we continue to get good business, but I think a larger realization is that contrary to what an earlier post has indicated, reading posts on 'feedback' or 'personal experiences' cannot be entirely credible, for those posts might have been planted....a fact known all too well, but then, since I was one of those perpetuated upon, I know the pain...

3. An earlier post has advised aspirants to write essay themselves; the logic of the author being that no one can write about you better than yourself. I strongly disagree (at the risk of my stance being construed as advertising). I agree that no one "knows" you better than yourself...but then, there are two risks associated with writing about yourself. For one, we tend to fall in love with what we think 'should' impress Admissions committee, rather than disassociating ourselves to objectively assess what 'would' impress the Adcom. Secondly, I also disagree that no one can 'write' about you better than yourself...writing is an art and if you can get help, why not!! After all, you would not want to languish, not because your profile was not good enough, but because you couldn’t project it pertinently through your essays..and that’s where the essay editors pitch in..a caveat though… look out for editors who’ve “been there dun that” (cliché I know..) and demonstrate willingness to listen to who you are, rather than hushing you up with a 'we know it all kiddo' attitude. In this vein, I found it rather surprising that some aspirants seemed to be ridiculing the essay editors for 'soliciting too much information' or 'making the aspirants do all the work'...guyz...the more the information you provide, the more likely it is that the essays reflect 'your' personality and not the essay editor's personality.

Summarily, if you have someone who can invest time and has the capability to provide you with a very constructive feedback in terms of quality and content of your essays, please utilize him/her by all means. If someone is not as lucky (to have such friends), let the net level a playing field by providing those aspirants with friends who can give them a very good feedback in terms of quality and content of their essays....just that these net-friends seek some financial remuneration for their indulgenceJ
   
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Re: Good B schools counselling centres in Delhi - 11-09-2008, 05:18 PM

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Re: Good B schools counselling centres in Delhi - 21-10-2008, 12:16 PM

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1. Don't equate charges with quality. As a fellow ISB alum stated in a previous post, look for people who don't depend upon this for their livelihood; in most likelihood, they do essay editing for passion and money is not the only motivator…the difference will show in the quality delivered.
In fact, the high charges that many of these commercial counselling centres ask for are actually not used to better their services but to employ an army of DU-educated people not having any experience of b-school admissions.

I would suggest everyone to go to an individual counsellor, talk to them at length and decide whether they know the process inside out or not.

One such person I know is Mr Kumar at mbadream.co.in; a rochester alum and b-school counsellor by passion, not profession. I've been using his services and the quality of inputs he has given me is extremely valuable. Since he is not out to make money, he charges a very reasonable 3500-4000 per school or so (not sure, check the website).

He does not take many applicants, but gives everyone the highest quality work they deserve.
   
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