US Visa Cap...Companies in US wont hire international

[movernshakker]

Originally Posted by puhrince

The MBA HSMP has not been removed - it is different from the regular HSMP, and it doesn't discriminate based on nationalities.

Pre Budget Report 2004: MBA Migration Entitlement

HSMP - MBA Provision

The HSMP would soon be abolished although I am not sure about what will happen to the MBA provision. Have a look.
Tier 1 2 3 4 5 Immigration & Visas, work permit & UK visa

[sgmat]

HSMP on the verge of getting abolished......nice but sad update......

anyway trust me guys i got a lot from this thread.....

thanks everyone for making his or her valuable contribution

let us all take it as a responsibility to update this thread in what ever way we can do so....

cheers!!

sgmat

[ay44]

Originally Posted by 2008mba

I am currently in New York on an H4 visa. I have been admitted to a college in Boston for my MBA (Full time) which starts in May 2008.

I want to pursue the MBA on an F1 visa for which I have not yet applied, but will be doing so by Mar 2008 end.

I will be applying for CHANGE of STATUS from H4 to F1

My MBA is a 1 year course.

1.) Will I be eligible for the OPT after a 1 year course on the F1 status?

2.) My primary concern is this: will my status be considered as F1 from the day I apply for visa change (Mar 2008 end)/ from the day I join school (May 200 / or from the day I receive the F1 visa (approx Aug 200 ).

3.) Will I have to apply for my OPT 12 months after I apply for F1 (in mar 2009) OR 12 months after I start school (in may 2009) OR 12 months after GETTING F1?

This is important because if my F1 status is considered from the day I receive the F1 visa,i.e AUG 200 , then I cant apply for the OPT before the end of the 4th quarter of MBA

4.) Also how to tackle OPT - H1 Gap?

5.) Is the UK HSMP MBA provision still good or they have made changes to it? My college was listed in the school list

Thanks a ton

Women with 3 years IT experience but clueless about visa issues

4) No real answer: Most guys in engineering finish their thesis around december. Then your can file for your h1 in March and continue working till october 1 on OPT.


5) The HSMP is gone but I am sure there will be a provision for mbas in the future. they have established a tier system and mba will probably fit in the second or third tier (which is yet to be revealed).

My advice move from h4 to h1 through tcs or wipro which file for h1 for freshers so you wouldnt have any problems. Get an executive mba after that and get an h1 tranfer if you can find a job in a better company. It will be a lot harder than going through placements on campus but you visa status is secure and you would spend a lot less in terms of opportunity costs.

[Elusionist]

I have posted a query about H1B here
http://www.pagalguy.com/forum/intern...ml#post1027045 (Phoren B-school Assistance Desk)

[puhrince]

Newsfeed highlighting the current problems:

"It is indeed ridiculous that the legislators turn their face away from the suffering of U.S. businesses as affected by the current annual cap of H-1B numbers. One wonders what other evidence they need to prove the critical need of H-1B workers other than the fact that the annual cap reached in one day and whole annual cap ran out in one day last year and it will repeat coming April 1, 2008. It is also ridiculous to see the government agency is forced to conduct a "lottery" in the administrative proceedings. Maybe some of the legislators are in a sadism mental state to enjoy their U.S. businesses suffer in pains. The issue is not suffering of foreign workers but suffering of our own businesses and its devastating negative impact on international competition and economy."

[ay44]

Originally Posted by puhrince

Newsfeed highlighting the current problems:

"It is indeed ridiculous that the legislators turn their face away from the suffering of U.S. businesses as affected by the current annual cap of H-1B numbers. One wonders what other evidence they need to prove the critical need of H-1B workers other than the fact that the annual cap reached in one day and whole annual cap ran out in one day last year and it will repeat coming April 1, 2008. It is also ridiculous to see the government agency is forced to conduct a "lottery" in the administrative proceedings. Maybe some of the legislators are in a sadism mental state to enjoy their U.S. businesses suffer in pains. The issue is not suffering of foreign workers but suffering of our own businesses and its devastating negative impact on international competition and economy."

Suffering US busineses, gimme a break. Competition in the US for good jobs is harder than it is in India or China.. well mayb not india but whtvr u get the picture.

The problem here is that people in the senate think that allowing more h-1 petition or GC petitions will automatically more jobs taken by immigrants. That is not the case. Most h-1 petitions are by indian IT firms who use them to bring workers for temporary assignments.

The real sufferers from this are foreign students from all over the world who spend a great time and effort to get a degree from the US. Only to find that all the h-1bs were taken by third rate Bsc graduates working for infosys or wipro or [insert indian bodyshop here]. Last year there was a running joke in the US IT industry that infosys filed a petition for an h-1 worker for $9.25 cents an hour. I think starbucks pays double that rate for a waitress.

Ohh by the way, puhrince how is it going at Rotman ( I saw your name in one of the threads). Great school and I have heard from friends that you dont have to deal with all this bullshit in Canada with a relatively simple PR process. How long does that take like 6 or 7 days. good luck with your career in canada. jobs maybe fewer and salaries lower there but your dollar goes further than ours anyway (adjusted for PPP).

[kgkid]

Some of your points are so hilarious that it makes me wonder. But then I look at your age and laugh it out.

This is from an IITian who worked at Infosys once. They have given a lot to the commoners in India far more than any other business ever... probably their line of business is ridiculed because they are cheap but... guess what.. their staff used to kick the a$$ out of many US based IT companies. However, I agree the quality has substantially diluted in the last few years with many MNCs picking up the earlier fine folks. When I had joined Infosys, it was a brand that would have rubbed you well on any street you walk in India.

On another note, if you are going for an MBA just because you need a good job then you are probably not understanding the whole process. If you are thinking about the end result going into an MBA then you probably do not know what you want in your life. It is the path and not the destination that would get you the top job.

My 2 cents.

Originally Posted by ay44

Suffering US busineses, gimme a break. Competition in the US for good jobs is harder than it is in India or China.. well mayb not india but whtvr u get the picture.

The problem here is that people in the senate think that allowing more h-1 petition or GC petitions will automatically more jobs taken by immigrants. That is not the case. Most h-1 petitions are by indian IT firms who use them to bring workers for temporary assignments.

The real sufferers from this are foreign students from all over the world who spend a great time and effort to get a degree from the US. Only to find that all the h-1bs were taken by third rate Bsc graduates working for infosys or wipro or [insert indian bodyshop here]. Last year there was a running joke in the US IT industry that infosys filed a petition for an h-1 worker for $9.25 cents an hour. I think starbucks pays double that rate for a waitress.

Ohh by the way, puhrince how is it going at Rotman ( I saw your name in one of the threads). Great school and I have heard from friends that you dont have to deal with all this bullshit in Canada with a relatively simple PR process. How long does that take like 6 or 7 days. good luck with your career in canada. jobs maybe fewer and salaries lower there but your dollar goes further than ours anyway (adjusted for PPP).

[mbabuster]

I currently work in Infosys and really cannot see where you got the figure of 9.25$ ? As for the fact that Infosys gets lots of H1s is absolutely correct , but that fact that foreign students suffer because of Indian IT companies is BS. This is a capitalistic world my friend and the best deal goes to the person who gives the best price. If you think USCIS knows that Infosys is wrongfully using the H1B visas then why don't they stop giving Infy the visas ., last I heard Infy got 4500 H1B visas last year.

By the way I am also joining MBA this year and will fall into the foreign students list - but I am not complaining because I know if not for Infosys I would never have got this opportunity in the first place.

[LifeOnGeodesic]

Well said MBABUSTER!

av - before calling graduates @ Infy, Wipro, TCS whatever you have called, please get the statistics right. Most of Indian aspirants for US MBA come from IT industry!

I remember time some 4 years back, with a salary of 15000 rs. per month, let aside MBA applications, I couldn't even afford to take GMAT! - that would have cost me a month's salary.

Had it not been for onsite assignments in IT industry, many of us would not have had opportunity to take MBA abroad route.

After MBA admission, it doesn't mean that you give such epithets to IT cos. to pour your H1-B grievances!

Originally Posted by mbabuster

I currently work in Infosys and really cannot see where you got the figure of 9.25$ ? As for the fact that Infosys gets lots of H1s is absolutely correct , but that fact that foreign students suffer because of Indian IT companies is BS. This is a capitalistic world my friend and the best deal goes to the person who gives the best price. If you think USCIS knows that Infosys is wrongfully using the H1B visas then why don't they stop giving Infy the visas ., last I heard Infy got 4500 H1B visas last year.

By the way I am also joining MBA this year and will fall into the foreign students list - but I am not complaining because I know if not for Infosys I would never have got this opportunity in the first place.

[ay44]

Originally Posted by kgkid

Some of your points are so hilarious that it makes me wonder. But then I look at your age and laugh it out.

This is from an IITian who worked at Infosys once. They have given a lot to the commoners in India far more than any other business ever... probably their line of business is ridiculed because they are cheap but... guess what.. their staff used to kick the a$$ out of many US based IT companies. However, I agree the quality has substantially diluted in the last few years with many MNCs picking up the earlier fine folks. When I had joined Infosys, it was a brand that would have rubbed you well on any street you walk in India.

On another note, if you are going for an MBA just because you need a good job then you are probably not understanding the whole process. If you are thinking about the end result going into an MBA then you probably do not know what you want in your life. It is the path and not the destination that would get you the top job.

My 2 cents.

Who said I was going for an MBA ....let alone just to get a good job.I saw a lot of talented seniors getting shafted at my college because of the H-1 issues and the same thing is probably gonna happen to me this year. One guy had to give away his signing bonus from deloitte worth 10k. Hence I made a few posts in the forum for kids wanting to come here and study just to warn them what they are up against.

The process YOU are not understanding is that the H-1b is not meant for IT folks or indians ONLY. Indians are relatively okay with not finding a job after graduation since there is a booming economy back home for them to look forward too. Computer programers and engineers will always be in demand wherever they go. The people who hurt are the talented foreigners or non indians who are not willing to do IT work for inhumanly low wages. I think MBAs fall pretty well in this profile too.

Oh and completely standby my $9.25 cents comment . In fact let me correct I think it was $9.22 cents. I dont know you are an ex infosys guy tell what the "prevailing" wage is for infosys.

Linky: H1B Debate on CNBC=

pause the video at 6:42

And ohh by the way if infosys was so great why did ya leave?