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Re: US Visa Cap...Companies in US wont hire international - 20-01-2008, 04:40 AM

just keeping this thread alive for the benefit of new applicants - I keep getting queries on this and would prefer any current (especially graduating) students from US schools ranked beyond top 15 (say) to provide any more information on this.

It would be also helpful if you can tell us which field you are majoring in (traditionally IB & MC career aspirants have had it easy here), and what kind of companies were flexible/stringent on the visa issue?
   
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Re: US Visa Cap...Companies in US wont hire international - 21-01-2008, 11:42 PM

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just keeping this thread alive for the benefit of new applicants - I keep getting queries on this and would prefer any current (especially graduating) students from US schools ranked beyond top 15 (say) to provide any more information on this.

It would be also helpful if you can tell us which field you are majoring in (traditionally IB & MC career aspirants have had it easy here), and what kind of companies were flexible/stringent on the visa issue?
I dont intend to be a damp squib, but as mentioned in my earlier post things aint all rosy at b schools here...My personal suggestion would be to consider other options before taking an admission into B schools in the U.S ranked beyond 20-25!!!
Just to give an idea among different schools, till date on an average 2-3 Indians out of 12-15 have received final placements. And colleges here promote networking/personal contacts as one of the prime ways to get a job!!!
One suggestion would be to talk to friends studying in tier 2/3 colleges here and then make an informed decision!!!


Somebody Stop Me!!!!!!!!!

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Re: US Visa Cap...Companies in US wont hire international - 22-01-2008, 02:42 AM

thanks Eccentric001 for your valuable suggestions...I think other options should also be on everbody's platter who are planning to apply to US bschools..also it seems that condition is really very bad..cheers!!!
   
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Re: US Visa Cap...Companies in US wont hire international - 22-01-2008, 12:45 PM

Being an Indian, the visa issues in the US, the excellent quality of life in Canada and the (relatively more) accomodating Canadian economy was what prompted me to apply to Rotman.

The global reputation, the (quicker) big bucks and the higher international ranking prompted me to apply to Duke and Ross also.

I have an admit to Rotman and a waitlist from Duke. Even though Duke is only a waitlist, its never too early to take both into consideration before making my decision. I was having the same worries as were discussed in the major portions of this thread.

Infact, I was also thinking on the same lines as graduating from the US, and applying for a PR in Canada. But then, when you think about it, to work in Canada, its easier graduating from a top Canadian school than from a top US school (read as Duke).

And once you break into the job market, its your performance that matters eventually, excepting occassions when there is that one big promotion anticipated by these two deserving candidates from differently reputed schools. (Please do correct me if I am wrong, cause I assume this is how things work in the job market post MBA).

And finally, with a good work profile and experience and performance, the longer you are in the field, I guess the less influential your school's reputation is going to be. Atleast the influence is going to reduce as a gradient as the ranking of the school decreases.


Puhrince, as an Indian (unless your work experience in the US would change it by much), and as a Rotman student, can I ask you for a straight answer - and I have a good idea of your background (not because I am stalking you mate , but because I have been following your posts regularly ), and I won't hold this answer against you.

If faced with an admit from Rotman and an admit from Duke, in today's scenario taking all the factors into consideration, what would you choose?
   
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Re: US Visa Cap...Companies in US wont hire international - 22-01-2008, 10:37 PM

you have done a great job in researching all the aspects associated with studying an MBA abroad...also yes, where you go to school matters in the short run but once you have established yourselves, it doesn't matter where you went..

Anyways to answer your question, I would choose Duke over Rotman anytime:
- Duke has been a brand name for a long time while Rotman is a recent phenomenon
- Duke is still a top 10 US school (or top 15), also has a great general management track (which I am interested in) while Rotman has been known only as a top ranked finance school (although its trying to change its image)
- visas have been a hassle for students in non-finance (IB) & non- consulting (top companies) streams - I met some Duke & Kellogg marketing students recently at a conference where they mentioned the problems international students are having getting the companies of their choice because of sponsorship problems, BUT...we all agreed that the Duke & Kellogg brand names would eventually help get them something anyway..

SO..let me rephrase your question - Duke vs Rotman and UT Austin vs Rotman - I would choose Duke over Rotman, but Rotman over UT Austin (its usually ranked between 18-25).


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Being an Indian, the visa issues in the US, the excellent quality of life in Canada and the (relatively more) accomodating Canadian economy was what prompted me to apply to Rotman.
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Re: US Visa Cap...Companies in US wont hire international - 23-01-2008, 01:47 AM

well i very truly agree with puhrince on this one....it seems some visa issues with non-IB and non-consulting....also i would always go for a brand....so duke anytime....well more views are always welcomed...so let us do a complete post mortem analysis of US visa issue and make the things roll down in a smooth and efficient manner.....

so guys please come up with the best possible knowledge you have about the entire scene in US hiring as of now...or that means this year hiring......cheers and good luck to you all!!!!

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Re: US Visa Cap...Companies in US wont hire international - 23-01-2008, 02:02 PM

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well i very truly agree with puhrince on this one....it seems some visa issues with non-IB and non-consulting....also i would always go for a brand....so duke anytime....well more views are always welcomed...so let us do a complete post mortem analysis of US visa issue and make the things roll down in a smooth and efficient manner.....

so guys please come up with the best possible knowledge you have about the entire scene in US hiring as of now...or that means this year hiring......cheers and good luck to you all!!!!

amit

sgmat, you are doing a good job of moderating this thread
   
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Re: US Visa Cap...Companies in US wont hire international - 23-01-2008, 06:05 PM

Hi Guys

Even when it is pretty evident that getting a job post graduation is difficult , how come all the colleges claim to guarantee a job within few months after graduation.

Based on all the ranking and college sites that i have gone through, even the colleges that are ranked under 30 claim to guarantee that atleast 85% (90% for top 20) of their students get job within first 3 months with a very decent salary. And considering that most colleges have around 35% international students , are the colleges fooling us?

Is it that almost 20% of international students are jobless after graduation?

Please throw some light :S ..
   
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Re: US Visa Cap...Companies in US wont hire international - 23-01-2008, 09:08 PM

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sgmat, you are doing a good job of moderating this thread
thanks!! dude....anytime....my only objective is to ensure that all of us are updated with the latest info about the international bschools and ofcourse the hiring.....so that we can make a calculated move....

btw i request the administrator to please make this thread a sticky.....

cheers and good luck to you Man

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Re: US Visa Cap...Companies in US wont hire international - 24-01-2008, 05:40 AM

from what I have seen intl students have had to settle for companies they are not interested in or are unknown..also many tend to join their old career fields (for Indians its IT or Engg) where work visas are easily available and offered by middlemen (Contract houses)...with last year's work visa (H1) quota running out within 2 weeks, it remains to be seen how this year will turn out.

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Hi Guys

Even when it is pretty evident that getting a job post graduation is difficult , how come all the colleges claim to guarantee a job within few months after graduation.

Based on all the ranking and college sites that i have gone through, even the colleges that are ranked under 30 claim to guarantee that atleast 85% (90% for top 20) of their students get job within first 3 months with a very decent salary. And considering that most colleges have around 35% international students , are the colleges fooling us?

Is it that almost 20% of international students are jobless after graduation?

Please throw some light :S ..
   
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