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Re: Harvard Business School(2007)Indian Admit!!! Also Taking Questions - 05-03-2007, 02:31 PM

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Hi Cryonerve,

Hearty congrats for getting HSB admit and becoming a proud father.

I just had a query or two to ..... if you could possibly answer those.....

I read the essays of HSB and it looked as if the three achievements essays were the most important.

Could you throw some light on what achievements can I write about ... or what you wrote about...Please provide me some overview on it.... Should they be from different aspects of life....For example... personal, professional, pertaining to a community...

Also I just wanted to ask you as you are my senior in every respect... Is it offending to ask for somebody else's esaays to get an idea of how they are written... If not could you provide me some of yours...

I would like to share my profile with you..

I am from IIT Delhi and working in a Market Research firm...
I hope they find it unique and distinct from IT junta..

This is my third job and I am into my third year of job.. Will have four years of it when I join B school....

Hoping for a prompt reply...

Thanks,
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1. All essays of HBS are important; I did not treat any of essays as unimportant. Your essays should be ideally showcasing your life.

Trade Secret#1: If you would have lined up my HBS essays one after another- you could have made a small novel about my life- with no break in continuity

2. Achievements: Did you get a promotion when making the lateral move to the other company? Did you lead a successful project? Were you involved socially somewhere? Did you overcome a personal disability? A leader shows consistent demonstrable leadership in all aspects of life. It is highly unlikely that you were a tiger at work and came back home and rested easy!

3. Sadly I cannot share my essays with you. There are two reasons for that

a. You would be colored with my experience and ideas and that would pollute your thinking

b. My essays are very revealing about ME as a person, not something I would like people at large to know about me


Peace!

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Re: Harvard Business School(2007)Indian Admit!!! Also Taking Questions - 05-03-2007, 08:14 PM

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Hi Cryonerve,

Hearty congrats for getting HSB admit and becoming a proud father.

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yeah even i did same mistake asking essays of successful applicants here and in other sites.@ that time i too thought why people don't share their essays.As days passes i came to know that few things need to be keep ourselves.

BTW, one thing learned that HBS and stanford essay is about OURSELF.
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Re: Harvard Business School(2007)Indian Admit!!! Also Taking Questions - 06-03-2007, 11:29 AM

Hello Cryo..

I have some more questions that always haunt me regarding the application process to top Business Schools:

1. What are the 3 most important characteristics that Harvard seeks in a candidate?
I will appreciate a specific reply. Normally we get general replies like Demonstrated Leadership. There are n kinds of leadership. What exactly is the kind of leadership Harvard seeks..


2. What are the 3 giveaways that lead to rejection. (b4 the interview stage itself.)?

3. Given the extreme competitive nature of applications, what separate a called-in candidate from a rejected one. I find it difficult to believe that a person with a 740 GMAT and 3.6 GPA is any different from one with 760 GMAT and 3.5 GPA having written similar essays. Yet one is called and other not. What beyond the facts does Harvard seeks?

4. I have heard quite a number of times that your whole application should weave into your complete life story. Yet i somehow feel that the art of storytelling should not be exercised beyond a point because a b School will expect a formal approach from us. Please provide ur comments and feedback on this.


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Re: Harvard Business School(2007)Indian Admit!!! Also Taking Questions - 06-03-2007, 11:36 AM

Hola Cryonerve,
Best wishes for you and your family (blessings to your daughter) and bienvenido a Harvard! btw, like Jerry Maguire, thank you for thanking me! (JBS-SBS-ISB thread). Godspeed

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Re: Harvard Business School(2007)Indian Admit!!! Also Taking Questions - 06-03-2007, 12:17 PM

Hi Cryonerve...

Bumped into this thread...while sauntering through PG.
Congrats and have a great time at HBS...

Hope to walk the hallowed portals of HBS myself......U gimme a glimmer of hope....

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Re: Harvard Business School(2007)Indian Admit!!! Also Taking Questions - 06-03-2007, 02:06 PM

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Hello Cryo..

I have some more questions that always haunt me regarding the application process to top Business Schools:

1. What are the 3 most important characteristics that Harvard seeks in a candidate?
I will appreciate a specific reply. Normally we get general replies like Demonstrated Leadership. There are n kinds of leadership. What exactly is the kind of leadership Harvard seeks..


2. What are the 3 giveaways that lead to rejection. (b4 the interview stage itself.)?

3. Given the extreme competitive nature of applications, what separate a called-in candidate from a rejected one. I find it difficult to believe that a person with a 740 GMAT and 3.6 GPA is any different from one with 760 GMAT and 3.5 GPA having written similar essays. Yet one is called and other not. What beyond the facts does Harvard seeks?

4. I have heard quite a number of times that your whole application should weave into your complete life story. Yet i somehow feel that the art of storytelling should not be exercised beyond a point because a b School will expect a formal approach from us. Please provide ur comments and feedback on this.

1. What are the 3 most important characteristics that Harvard seeks in a candidate?
I will appreciate a specific reply. Normally we get general replies like Demonstrated Leadership. There are n kinds of leadership. What exactly is the kind of leadership Harvard seeks..

There is no specific type of leadership that HBS seeks, there are all kind of leaders in this world. Let me give you examples: Mr. George W Bush, Mr. Bill Gates, Mr. Ratan Tata, Mr. Anand Mahindra and Mr. Chidambaram are all effective leaders in their specific field of interest. If I was to say that all 5 had similar leadership styles- I would be grossly wrong- each one of them has specific traits of leadership which make them effective leaders. HBS is not only looking for the next face on the cover of Times magazine, it is looking for people who made it possible for that face to be there.

Leadership does not mean getting onto a podium and blowing your trumpet (that is a style of leadership that generally comes into our mind when we talk about leadership) leadership also means silently working your way to glory. Leadership can also mean selfless sacrifice on enemy territory for a country and people who do not believe and care about you.


2. What are the 3 giveaways that lead to rejection. (b4 the interview stage itself.)?

I am not qualified to answer this, but I would go out on a limb and say- dishonesty, unwillingness to learn and pride as three things that all potential HBS applicants should not have in their acquired skill set.


3. Given the extreme competitive nature of applications, what separate a called-in candidate from a rejected one. I find it difficult to believe that a person with a 740 GMAT and 3.6 GPA is any different from one with 760 GMAT and 3.5 GPA having written similar essays. Yet one is called and other not. What beyond the facts does Harvard seeks?

GMAT’s and GPA’s are hygiene factor. Is Richard Branson the kind of person HSB would have loved to have on it’s roll? Yes!

How much GMAT and GPA would Sir Branson have scored (his personal triumph over dyslexia is well documented)? HBS is not a place for academic geniuses- it is for people who want to bring about change in this world!


4. I have heard quite a number of times that your whole application should weave into your complete life story. Yet i somehow feel that the art of storytelling should not be exercised beyond a point because a b School will expect a formal approach from us. Please provide ur comments and feedback on this.

I disagree- the more open you are with your application the better chances you have of getting into a school that is meant for you. I got selected at ISB, IIMA and HBS… but did not even get a interview call from Stanford (these are the 4 schools I applied to). Does that mean that Stanford GSB did not like me, or I had not done enough in my life to qualify for Stanford? No, it just means that if I had got selected into Stanford by writing a fancy tale- I would have been unhappy in my 2 years there.


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Re: Harvard Business School(2007)Indian Admit!!! Also Taking Questions - 06-03-2007, 07:14 PM

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Leadership does not mean getting onto a podium and blowing your trumpet (that is a style of leadership that generally comes into our mind when we talk about leadership) leadership also means silently working your way to glory. Leadership can also mean selfless sacrifice on enemy territory for a country and people who do not believe and care about you.


2. I am not qualified to answer this, but I would go out on a limb and say- dishonesty, unwillingness to learn and pride as three things that all potential HBS applicants should not have in their acquired skill set.


Peace!

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hao hao. very well said sonam.

However one question hunting me regarding HBS

1.>Assume a fella is good in his account and finance & he reflected in his profile but he don't have any certification course in that because he may not able to afford money for such courses however he studies on his own and applied successfully/unsuccessfully. So what i mean is that whether HBS gives more stress on certificates or not.



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Re: Harvard Business School(2007)Indian Admit!!! Also Taking Questions - 06-03-2007, 08:09 PM

hey cryo,
congrats first of all for the lovely gift dat u got (sachi)
am a 2010 applicant.......wud be completin 5 years of work ex then........had a doubt......does the HBS or ne other gud B school in the US reject an applicant on the basis that he/she has done an mba before........coz i have dun my pgdbm from one of the better if not the best b schools in india....but am not happy wid the kind of profiles that i m gettin.......plus am not gettin the kind of exposure that i wud like in order to bercome a succesful entrepreneur down the line in the future...........so wud like to apply for a second mba .......wat wud be the best way to tell them dat HBS is the rite thing for me..............plz if u cud clear my doubt i wud be damn grtful to u .....
thanx in advance
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Re: Harvard Business School(2007)Indian Admit!!! Also Taking Questions - 08-03-2007, 01:27 PM

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hao hao. very well said sonam.

However one question hunting me regarding HBS

1.>Assume a fella is good in his account and finance & he reflected in his profile but he don't have any certification course in that because he may not able to afford money for such courses however he studies on his own and applied successfully/unsuccessfully. So what i mean is that whether HBS gives more stress on certificates or not.

HBS does not require certification's from you.

In any case if you feel you are good at something- you can always talk your way through it and convince the ADCOM that you know all about it without getting a formal degree.

In case of accounts and finance- there would be no talk-throughs, you WILL need to do the required course-work and pass gracefully IF you want to get into HBS
   
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Re: Harvard Business School(2007)Indian Admit!!! Also Taking Questions - 08-03-2007, 01:31 PM

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hey cryo,
congrats first of all for the lovely gift dat u got (sachi)
am a 2010 applicant.......wud be completin 5 years of work ex then........had a doubt......does the HBS or ne other gud B school in the US reject an applicant on the basis that he/she has done an mba before........coz i have dun my pgdbm from one of the better if not the best b schools in india....but am not happy wid the kind of profiles that i m gettin.......plus am not gettin the kind of exposure that i wud like in order to bercome a succesful entrepreneur down the line in the future...........so wud like to apply for a second mba .......wat wud be the best way to tell them dat HBS is the rite thing for me..............plz if u cud clear my doubt i wud be damn grtful to u .....
thanx in advance
viks

A very good friend of mine from Delhi is an IIMA grad and would be joining me in class of 2009 at HBS. I hope that answers your query.

About other schools- I would not be in position to comment on that as the only 2 schools I researched in the US were HBS and GSB Stanford. And both do NOT discriminate negatively (or positively) for people going for a 2nd MBA

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