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Direct Hsmp Immigration Visa For Uk - 12-07-2006, 05:35 PM

Hello frds
I wanted some information regarding hsmp visa for uk .
After searching around for similar posts on pg I was not able to get any related thread!!!!!!!So I thought I would start a new thread!!!!!!!!!
We all have heard abt the mba provison of uk govt which helps u get an hsmp visa at the end of your mba course from selected uk universities.

But no one is talking abt direct hsmp visa!!!!!!!!
Recently i had a chat with one of my frds who is a uk citizen.he told me that there is some kind of loophole in this visa and many Indians are getting this visa though don’t deserve it!!!!!!!!
After searching around I was not convinced as to what this loophole is!!!!
Any body out hear who has been planning for uk hsmp or u have already got it!
Plz reply and guide me abt the new rules!!!!!!!

It would be of futhure help if any one could give me refrence of some good uk immigration lawyers in Mumbai who could help me.
Lastly I have came to know that if u could show around 400000 annual income from all your sources u could get a confirmed visa within 90 days!!!!!!!
Don’t know whether this is true!!!!!!!
Plz help me frds…………….
   
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Re: Direct Hsmp Immigration Visa For Uk - 12-07-2006, 07:45 PM

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Hello frds
I wanted some information regarding hsmp visa for uk .
After searching around for similar posts on pg I was not able to get any related thread!!!!!!!So I thought I would start a new thread!!!!!!!!!
We all have heard abt the mba provison of uk govt which helps u get an hsmp visa at the end of your mba course from selected uk universities.

But no one is talking abt direct hsmp visa!!!!!!!!


What is "direct hsmp visa" ? My presumption is you mean applying for one WITHOUT going through the MBA route.

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Recently i had a chat with one of my frds who is a uk citizen.he told me that there is some kind of loophole in this visa and many Indians are getting this visa though don’t deserve it!!!!!!!!


Yea, but I also know plenty who got rejected though they were deserving. It is very important to play your cards right when applying for the visa. The application needs to be impeccable esp around the language you use to fill out the descriptive questions and the supporting documents you provide. For example, many people give printouts of jobs from the net and cutouts from classified advs for which they are eligible. The bottom line is they need to be assured that you are good enough to land up a pretty good job in the UK. Period.

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After searching around I was not convinced as to what this loophole is!!!!
Any body out hear who has been planning for uk hsmp or u have already got it!
Plz reply and guide me abt the new rules!!!!!!!


There are no specific "new" rules. Just go to www.google.com and type out HSMP points calculator and you should have it there.

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It would be of futhure help if any one could give me refrence of some good uk immigration lawyers in Mumbai who could help me.


I know of a guy called Y-axis. He has a website someplace, again google for him.

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Lastly I have came to know that if u could show around 400000 annual income from all your sources u could get a confirmed visa within 90 days!!!!!!!
Don’t know whether this is true!!!!!!!
Plz help me frds…………….
No, you need to be in the top 10% of earning people in India. Which is about 7500 GBP. And it translates to around 6lpa.

Hope this helps,

Arun



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Re: Direct Hsmp Immigration Visa For Uk - 13-07-2006, 12:37 PM

thanks a lot Psychodementia
yes u presumption is rgt abt getting direct hsmp visa without mba.
u told me to google for the person called y-axis.
but after googling i was not able to find the contact info of this guy.
it would be grt if u could help me by giving his contact info!!!!!!!!!!

also it seems u have a grt knowledge abt immigration and work visa rules!!!!!
so what would be your advice for me !!!!!!!
as in which country should i apply on a working visa or should i say which countries rules are easying out for indian professionals.

have u ever applied for uk or any other countries work visa!!!!!!!
would be of help if u could let me know something abt u career profile and your future career plan?

do u plan to immigrate to any country?

thanks in advance.........

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Re: Direct Hsmp Immigration Visa For Uk - 13-07-2006, 01:17 PM

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thanks a lot Psychodementia yes u presumption is rgt abt getting direct hsmp visa without mba. u told me to google for the person called y-axis. but after googling i was not able to find the contact info of this guy.
it would be grt if u could help me by giving his contact info!!!!!!!!!! also it seemsu have a grt knowledge abt immigration and work visa rules!!!!!
so what would be your advice for me !!!!!!! as in which country should i apply on a working visa. have u ever applied for uk or any other countries work visa!!!!!!! wold u of help if u could let me what is your career plan. thanks in advance.........
The rationale behind the MBA provision was to have more people with Master's Degrees & MBA's choosing to work in the UK. No harm applying direct, and many people who apply genuinely fulfil the points requirement to get an HSMP. That however, is the objective part. There're a few other subjective requirements that the UK evaluators also look at. From what I've seen through some friends who applied direct:

a) Unless you've achieved something spectacular / outrageous (that can be documented & proven - like award / citation / newspaper article), you need to have a Master's or Doctoral Degree - in a hard, quantitative and professionally applicable subject like an MBA, MCA or Master's in Econ, Engineering or Accounting (like CA CWA or CS along with B.Com), Ph.D in certain Sciences (Biology or Chemistry etc..). You need to have these from recognized universities like the RECs / IIT's / IIMs or one of the Big state Univs like Delhi Univ, Calcutta, Bombay or Madras, Bangalore, Osmania etc.. The Academic qualifications are quite seriously examined. A close friend of mine was rejected because the HSMP evaluators refused to recognise his PGDM from TA Pai Manipal .

b) You need to have at least 5-7 years of experience in a field that will materially contribute to the UK economy - which is any industry where the above qualifications are applicable. I'm talking IT, Financial Services / Banking, Life Sciences, healthcare, pharma, biotech, alternative Energy, Retail, manufacturing (Technical / operational NOT administrative).

c) Your salary should be comfortably over INR 8L (if you're working in India). A comfortable bank account (they'll know if these documents are fabricated, so ensure these are genuine).

d) Documentary & detailed proof of work experience & residence - including detailed job descriptions & certifications from all employers (which is difficult to get for job-hoppers). Certified or Notarized copies of each form 16 filed for tax return. In addition to your marriage certificate, you need to show your spouse & yourself have lived together through mail correspondence (electricity or phone bill or joint bank account or credit card statements).... There may more I've forgotten about.

e) A well qualified spouse would help. If he / she has education and experience applicable in the UK, you will score a few points more and will find approval easier.

f) English language ability (spoken and written). Poor English will disqualify you regardless of any qualification or experience you might have.

It's a delicate balance. If the pass mark is 65, many applicants will probably reach there, but don't need to do more. Meaning, you shouldn't get greedy to ensure 85 points to get easier approval, because there's no such thing. At 65 & above, ALL applications & evaluations and equal - an applicant with 85 can get rejected, while one with 70 can get approved! It is subjective.

Go in with your eyes open... this is not easy. IF you're earning more than INR 10-12L in India and are in a good company + good position + your wife earns a comfortable amount as well, the benefit to your life from working in the UK is marginal at best.

Good Luck

P.S - Not a lawyer or expert, NOT in the UK, I went halfway through an HSMP application before I decided the effort wasn't worth the very marginal to nil benefit of working / living in the UK (I live in mainland Europe).
   
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Re: Direct Hsmp Immigration Visa For Uk - 13-07-2006, 01:25 PM

Hi chaps,
I am working in the UK on HSMP visa and I did not use the MBA provision although I did the MBA from UK in 2004-05.
I can claim to have a decent knowledge and experience on HSMP and what the Home Office looks for including documentation, etc. Send me a PM if you need specific help.

There are no general answers on any criteria - for e.g. I see some guys mentioning that INR 7-8 lac is what you need...but your success will depend on "what" and "how" you show it.
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Re: Direct Hsmp Immigration Visa For Uk - 13-07-2006, 02:12 PM

I have some generic questions on this. Can one get an HSMP visa without a job offer at hand ? In case one does, what is the gurantee of a job after he/she lands in the UK ? How long is the HSMP valid ? Can it be converted to permanent residency ?
   
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Re: Direct Hsmp Immigration Visa For Uk - 13-07-2006, 04:03 PM

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1. Yes. You will get HSMP without a job in hand irrespective of where you apply from (UK or India or anywhere else)
2. No. HSMP does not guarantee a job but it sure helps since many employers would not sponsor your work permit.
3. Now HSMP is given initially for 2 years and then you can get it renewed for 3 years (provided you are gainfully employed at the time of renewal).
4. Post 5 years of HSMP, you can apply for PR.

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Re: Direct Hsmp Immigration Visa For Uk - 14-07-2006, 01:29 AM

hello baccardisprite
thanks a lot for the detailed reply.........
hello sandeep gupta
thanks to u too........

it would be of grt help sandeep if u could share with us u profile!!!!!!!!
u expereience of how did u got u hsmp directly!!!!!!!!
were u assisted by someone or have u done it on your own self.
if u were asisted by someone could u give me his contact no and address.

baccardisprite and sandeep
do u guys have any idea abt the work holiday maker visa for uk!!!!!
is it true that indians dont get this visa ...

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Re: Direct Hsmp Immigration Visa For Uk - 14-07-2006, 04:30 PM

I can see a lot of useful inputs added already.

(a) Go to www.google.com, type in "Y-axis" and hit "I'm feeling lucky" or alternatively type www.y-axis.com on your browser. These guys have offices in most cities including Mumbai. I found them to be more geniune then the rest. Plus the lawyers in London who specialize in HSMP are freaking expensive even to review your file. It helps to have someone have a professional look at your application. There are things which you might not realize so better safe than sorry.

(b) HSMP is very simple - no mumbo-jumbo. Just go to http://www.workpermit.com/uk/hsmp_calculator.htm and fill in the online application. For example (also answers your case about my profile):

I'm 28+ (0points), have a Masters degree (25points), Worked for 5+years (25points), earn enough to get me 25points, Neither have achievement in my chosen field nor am a HSMP priority applicant (0 points), Spouse's achievement fetch me 10points and satisfy all other non-point parameters like employability, language ability, criminal record etc. Which give me a total of 85 points. But as someone else pointed out I dont need to worry about anything once I am above 65.

(c) Working in UK using HSMP is one thing. And your choice to exercising it is another. For example right now I don't desire to get out of India (personal and professional reasons). So I would ask you to think hard if you really want to move out and THEN make the choice.

HTH,

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Re: Direct Hsmp Immigration Visa For Uk - 17-07-2006, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by sandeep1gupta1
Answers:
1. Yes. You will get HSMP without a job in hand irrespective of where you apply from (UK or India or anywhere else)
2. No. HSMP does not guarantee a job but it sure helps since many employers would not sponsor your work permit.
3. Now HSMP is given initially for 2 years and then you can get it renewed for 3 years (provided you are gainfully employed at the time of renewal).
4. Post 5 years of HSMP, you can apply for PR.

Cheers
Hi Sandeep.
Can u plz explain me on this
You will get HSMP without a job in hand irrespective of where you apply from (UK or India or anywhere else)
can u plz even give ur suggestion how to get a HSMP.
   
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