[Abhishek Jha]

Seriously speaking guys, no IT after MBA!! IT life sucks, god save IT slaves

[siddarth_dude]

A poem describing a day in the life on a professional ion the IT industry

The sun shines bright and I’ve to get out of the bed,
Another boring day, my heart said

Formal clothing to wear, polished shoes adorn my feet
I remember my closest companion who missed me all night, my seat

Getting into the bus, a few hi`s here and there
Few happy faces and a fewer seats to share


Noise, smoke and the honking horn my travel mate
Traffic is ubiquitous and in everyone’s fate

The road sneers at me, commanding me to treat him like the king
Buses trudge on it, the engines have nothing to do but sing

The buildings growing larger and larger as I approach mine
Trying to remember if life without them would be fine

Buses entering the campus like swarms of bees into a honeycomb
Everyone looks as if they witnessed the dropping of the atomic bomb

I walk along the divine path to reach the lobby, waiting for the lift
I wondered of this lift would get me to heaven really swift

My seat looks at me like a long lost lover, separated throughout the night
Now that we are united, we can start to fight

Mails pour in as people continue to walk in beside me
Thinking about the tea that they would get for free

Three hours down, I head for the café to munch
Too alluring was the session called lunch

After a hearty meal, I climb up the stairs to let it burn
Not realizing that my soul is in a constant churn

My lover invites me with wide open arms
Enchanting me with her cozy charms
The clock ticks on, emulating the 100m world champion
The happiness grows in me with every passing minute

Snap and the clock displays the time to leave
Many a thoughts and actions to weave

Sitting in the bus, I wave bye to my workplace
The traffic greets me right on my face

After an hour’s journey, I reach the place that I call home
The bath tub was ready filled with hot steaming foam

Dipped into the tub as slowly as I could savoring each moment
Scenes from the day zipping through my mind

What a fruitless day it was, told my mind
I asked it to shut up and commanded it to another body if it could find

Freedom eludes me like the butterfly from the boy running with the net
I think I need to find a better bet, a better lover to be met

[Psychodementia]

This thread got me thinking and I wrote something here:
http://askpsycho.blogspot.com/

Arun

[dinu83]

true abishek...IT life sucks...but then to a certain extent it also depends on where one is in an IT company...i know guys in my company who r in pre-sales, markting and consulting....for them its cool....but if u r in a developer bandwagon....thoieeeeeee....that sucks...

Originally Posted by Abhishek Jha

Seriously speaking guys, no IT after MBA!! IT life sucks, god save IT slaves

[amitmehrotra]

Well I have t disagree here. Life doesnt suck in IT development, we make it suck by our actions, by the work culture we follow. The main difference is in the other functions a person cant survive without being proactive.You dont get sales deal sitting at home or in a nice cozy AC office desk.

Same thing applies in dev too if you keep on doing whats asked of U life will suck. The Q is how proactive can you be. There are always things that are interesting, but how many times do we take the risk of reaching out and grabbing it, of challenging the management. In addition we dont learn how to say NO to unncessary demands like working in weekends or late nights.

I was personally lucky to work outside under US managers and then had the guts/self confidence to say NO and also to be proactive, well which results in my assigned work lagging but I get to do the work which gives me more visibility and more satisfaction.

And if things dont work out we have the option of calling it quits and easily finding a job with better salries before the notice period is over which is a rarity in other professions.

As for timings folks make Ur own, u are not in a call center you need not rely on a bus, you can come and go as U please as long as U attend Ur meetings irrespective of if Ur company has official flexi time or not. Other benefits U need not shave everyday,U need not look perfect everyday, U dont need to dress in a tie everday, you need to speak in sweet words to everyone everyday.

-Amit

[ashishyahoo]

Originally Posted by Psychodementia

This thread got me thinking and I wrote something here:
http://askpsycho.blogspot.com/

Arun

So finally you have ur blog!!!! Good to see that...was waiting for it...

Catch me on http://ashishyahoo.blogspot.com...

Ashish

[jd_dreamz]

Well said Amit...
couldnt agree with u more...

[dinu83]

dude..ur views r fine..but i still blv that it aint so cool as it looks....

Originally Posted by amitmehrotra

Well I have t disagree here. Life doesnt suck in IT development, we make it suck by our actions, by the work culture we follow. The main difference is in the other functions a person cant survive without being proactive.
You dont get sales deal sitting at home or in a nice cozy AC office desk.
Same thing applies in dev too if you keep on doing whats asked of U life will suck. The Q is how proactive can you be. ( Even in IT u have to proactive...i spend half of my day with my clients..which in turn boomerangs into sitting late into the night...but can;t help..."client is the king"...i cant bang the phone even if i have loads of work to do..)There are always things that are interesting, but how many times do we take the risk of reaching out and grabbing it, of challenging the management. In addition we dont learn how to say NO to unncessary demands like working in weekends or late nights.( mate...none wants to work on weekends...and lotsa ppl put their opinion frankly....but it all depends on how ur superior manages with the client...if he nods head to deliver something in a stiff deadline....it boils down to the dev to slog and finish it...coz u cant go bak n say...sorry i accepted that unknowingly w/o estimation)

I was personally lucky to work outside under US managers and then had the guts/self confidence to say NO and also to be proactive, well which results in my assigned work lagging but I get to do the work which gives me more visibility and more satisfaction. (consider the majority of the population buddy....)

And if things dont work out we have the option of calling it quits and easily finding a job with better salries before the notice period is over which is a rarity in other professions. ( come on be realistic....u can easily find alternate jobs...but it hits u back later in life)

As for timings folks make Ur own, u are not in a call center you need not rely on a bus, you can come and go as U please as long as U attend Ur meetings irrespective of if Ur company has official flexi time or not. Other benefits U need not shave everyday,U need not look perfect everyday, U dont need to dress in a tie everday, you need to speak in sweet words to everyone everyday. ( these form a part of proffesional etiquette...and arises out of self-discpline...i have seen enough of marketing wizards who dont shave...it all depends on how u project urself infront of others...if i feel i can get the sale done even in casual wear...thats it..nothing can stop me..and btw there r dresscodes which r applicable for all depts..)..

Having said this, i would also like to put up something regarding the longetivity of a career in IT vis-a-vis traditional industries....Here lotta ppl get frustrated by the time they r 40+....i do agree there r 55+ guys....but look @ the majority........

Amit, pls take these as my personal comments...no intentions for a debate/fight with ny1

cheers
NK

-Amit

[amitmehrotra]

Dinu,

So you have to stay late in night what stops you from coming tot he office at 12. Have you tried it? My friends in sales/marketing envy the fact that I can sleep as longas I want with no alarm clocks.

Well if Ur manager says sorry he accepted it without correct planning you can tell the manager its his problem,not yours. Have you tried saying it? Tellign him he made a mistake so he should suffer you wont come on weekends or work late.

No finding another job is not problemetaic for the cgood people ever. I wont recomemnd it but I do know people who regularly have changed 1 job per year and they are still sought after. And you dont have to leave immediately, you can fight it out. And it doesnt come back to haunt you if U alwasy attack the decisions and judgeents not the person. And I knwow enough peopel who have job hopped it doesnt come back to hit you as Ur differences are only with one manager not with the organisation. i ahev changed mutiple companies for differnt reasons and I stillhave open offers from all of them to join back anytime I want and have fought in each one of them.

Stand up and recognise yourself, if U think U cant fight if other push you they will keep on pushing you again and again and yes then life will suck.

As for casual wear try doing business with Japanes or east coast customers without proper attire. The cluture we are following is west coast, which gives us loads of leeway.

And dont think of the majority think of Urself only. You are responsible for your life no one else if you think majority cant stakebe decisive in life and U can its Ur advantage.

Ho w many 40+ IT people do you know who have spend all their lives in the IT industry. LEts assume a avg age of 40+ as 45 that will put them at 24 yrs of work ex. i.e they started in software in 2006-24=1982. How many of them do you know? The majority of the 40+ people who are seeing are career switchers who switched as managers from other industries and since then have found that the IT industry unsatisfactory. You are planning the same, shift from one to another how sure can U be that U wont have the same feelings as they do today.

-Amit

[Nisha K]

Hi ,

Actually both Dinu and Amit are right, depending on how many years you have been into the IT industry and the work culture of the specific company that you work for.

If you are a fresher, with an experience of less than 2-3 years, then it is very difficult to lay down your rules at office or telling your superior that its his problem that he had agreed to a particular deadline or just doing work that interests you. You would wind up with a bad reputation at office, of not being able to pull your weight in a team. The end result being that your boss would give you a bad appraisal or tend to overlook you for any new responsibilties that might have been interesting.:satisfie:

Plus a major factor is the company you work for. Many IT comapnies are now on a recruiting spree among freshers just out of college, mainly cause they can be paid less than a lateral and one can train freshers in any field for which there is requirement.
In such a case , it is very difficult for the fresher to refuse working in a particular domain even if he is not interested and in general would not have that much lee way.


Having said this, I must say that if you have an affinity for this field then you should stick it out for the initial period. After you have a strong domain knowledge, you can draw the line at unjustified or unfair demands from your bosses. Plus you can command the salary you wish. You can take certifications and always be one step ahead of the demand in your field.


I may be wrong in all this. But i can draw only from personal experience. As a fresher, I never had the clout to draw the line. I got transfered to places that I didn't want to. First got trained in Java and than in SAP. Not for once , do the HR people ask or even listen to our requirements. They have just one refrain " Be Flexible. be it domain or places ".

But then I see the way seniors and laterals get their way. There are people three years into developement, who have such good rep for the quality of their work , that their demands for sabattical from the comapany, onsite opprtunities are all granted, just so that the talent can be retained.

IT or for that matter , any job would suck if you don't want to be in it in the first place or you are in it for all the wrong reasons.


Wheew! thats it guys.. sorry it was sooo long...

Till next time
-Nisha